Penn State protects child rapist that was former famous D-Coordinator

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zinfamous

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The NCAA was started to look after health concerns of the student athlete. It has evolved to making its living on a shame claim of monitoring competitive balance while trying to maximize championship/bowl games as the source of its revenue.

And its still a bullshit move that they levied this punishments out of some self sanctimonious purpose to make itself look good. Don't recall such actions when a player murdered another player under NCAA watch.


As Le Batard said "is anyone concerned that the NCAA thundered out of its jurisdiction into this decision to take the role of the morality police. I want the NCAA to have less power. Do we want another Goodel."


And it seems the president is a ballless sack of shit. Heard reports that he offered unconditional acceptance of thee penalties if it didn't involve the death penalty, without contacting all or most of the board before hand. Hopefully this gets his sorry ass booted.

And let's not forget this is the same pathetic body that took half a decade to decide Reggie Bush was bad, but this somehow seems ok, yeah right.



<---world's tiniest violin right here.


get the fuck over it.
 

SP33Demon

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I respect what you're saying and I don't think you're wrong, I just have a difference of opinion. I don't see this this as a "football" problem. This was a criminal conspiracy committed by individuals who used Penn State football and the power and position it gave them to live above the law.

How do you punish a "system" when all it did wrong was exist? *edit: I don't think I'm wording the last sentence right to communicate what I'm thinking* The people who were supposed to be in charge failed the system. Any punitive action that does not put Spanier, Paterno, Sandusky, etc... at the front is a joke in my opinion.

How is this not a football problem? The head coach overrode the trustees when they wanted to tell the police in 2001, in any other small school where football takes a back seat, that doesn't happen. The coach did this to protect the reputation of the program at all costs. It was the cause of the coverup when Curley was going to tell the police and 2nd Mile about the shower rape. I don't see how you're not getting this.
 

surfsatwerk

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How is this not a football problem? The head coach overrode the trustees when they wanted to tell the police in 2001, in any other small school where football takes a back seat, that doesn't happen. The coach did this to protect the reputation of the program at all costs. It was the cause of the coverup when Curley was going to tell the police and 2nd Mile about the shower rape.

Joe Paterno did it for Joe Paterno. If he gave a shit about kids or the program he built he would have went to the cops.
 

DrunkenSano

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No he didn't, he took the right steps in punishing a corrupt program and a corrupt culture. Your tears are delicious. I'm glad Pedo State got the hammer.


Joe Paterno did it for Joe Paterno. If he gave a shit about kids or the program he built he would have went to the cops.

On the contrary, he did do it for the program. Problem is, he felt like he was god and that he was the football program. I'm glad the fucker is rotting in hell now and they should dump his statue in a giant pile of manure, along with the rest of the Paterno family who are bitching.
 

surfsatwerk

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On the contrary, he did do it for the program. Problem is, he felt like he was god and that he was the football program. I'm glad the fucker is rotting in hell now and they should dump his statue in a giant pile of manure, along with the rest of the Paterno family who are bitching.

Seems to me the program suffered for Joe Paterno's decision's more than Joe Paterno did. This was not a cover up to protect players and to ensure his team kept winning games. The guy is a monster on the same level as Sandusky.
 

DrunkenSano

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The program and school suffered because it placed Joe Paterno and Football on a giant pedestal, which it shouldn't have. That is why the punishment was leveled on the program, appropriately so. Instead of letting Joe or any football coach grow such a big head by putting them ahead of everything, it should always be young people's education and well-being placed first. Pedo State and I am sure many other colleges have fallen to this state.
 

lupi

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And for all the dumbasses out there that have difficulty in understanding due process and jurisdiction; whatever penalties the university enacted would be fine. Whatever the governor told them to do would be fine. Whatever the big 10 told them to do would most likely be fine.

However the NCAA going camera photo op pr sleaze is nothing short of the biggest lack of merit grandstanding attempt since nero strummed his fiddle. There have been multiple athlete killing athlete situations that haven't gotten a tenth of this coverage by the ncaa. This from a group that took a year to resolve OSU after people had already been arrested and convicted, they been at UM for years with no decision, they've decided on basketball violations so quickly that those involved were at the end of their nba career, yet here we get expeditious resolution without any actual work by the body. Hypocrisy has found a new home.
 

surfsatwerk

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The program and school suffered because it placed Joe Paterno and Football on a giant pedestal, which it shouldn't have. That is why the punishment was leveled on the program, appropriately so. Instead of letting Joe or any football coach grow such a big head by putting them ahead of everything, it should always be young people's education and well-being placed first. Pedo State and I am sure many other colleges have fallen to this state.

But when the Spanier and Curly helped him cover this up they knew this wasn't small time stuff. This isn't a case of "poor judgement", they helped him cover up the rape of children. In my opinion that instantly makes this stop being about football.

Those men are insane and depraved. I don't care how much you like football or what kind of pedestal you are on, no sane human being could ever protect a man who rapes children for any reason. They can say they did this to protect the team, but that doesn't make is so.
 

lupi

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You should enjoy playing your pedo state violins, just a shame that the vast majority of the analyst I've heard speaking on this have disagreed on this for the same reasons I've mentioned. Pr move, power grab, outside of the bounds, excessive, and beyond scope are all tag lines being used to describe them.
 

zinfamous

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And for all the dumbasses out there that have difficulty in understanding due process and jurisdiction; whatever penalties the university enacted would be fine. Whatever the governor told them to do would be fine. Whatever the big 10 told them to do would most likely be fine.


<-- violin again.

I'll start listening to your babbling and I might care about the potential of NCAA overstepping anything, when you accept the fact that Paterno's burying this scandal is what cost PSU.

Had he done the right thing, had he not put his precious football program over justice, this never would have happened.

This became a football issue when the word of a fossilized football coach outweighs that of his superior, period. PSU is clearly guilty of endorsing pointless football culture above the welfare of children, period. Football in PSU deserves severe punishment, period.

boo fucking hoo. the dingbat fans of "happy" valley deserve worse than they got, imo.
 

surfsatwerk

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<-- violin again.

I'll start listening to your babbling and I might care about the potential of NCAA overstepping anything, when you accept the fact that Paterno's burying this scandal is what cost PSU.

Had he done the right thing, had he not put his precious football program over justice, this never would have happened.

This became a football issue when the word of a fossilized football coach outweighs that of his superior, period. PSU is clearly guilty of endorsing pointless football culture above the welfare of children, period. Football in PSU deserves severe punishment, period.

boo fucking hoo. the dingbat fans of "happy" valley deserve worse than they got, imo.

Maybe I suffer from a limited imagination, but I can't for the life of me see how protecting Sandusky could have ever looked like it was "good" for the football team. Not being sarcastic, I just can't see it.
 

zinfamous

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You should enjoy playing your pedo state violins, just a shame that the vast majority of the analyst I've heard speaking on this have disagreed on this for the same reasons I've mentioned. Pr move, power grab, outside of the bounds, excessive, and beyond scope are all tag lines being used to describe them.


Oh...SPORTS "Journalists."

ROFL. give me a fucking break. Yeah, please wake me when the analysis of a fucking sports "journalist" becomes relevant to anything in the real world.

They are more or less qualified to discuss when some program starts paying players, or point shaving--things that don't matter for dick outside of ESPN's irrelevant little sphere. There was no NCAA precedent for endemic corruption that attempted to bury a child rape ring. Well, now there is. Eat it.


All these ESPN dingbats care about is their precious sports, but to be honest, you're just eating up the shit they don't really believe. When the hell has Jay Bilas ever said anything about football? Sure, he's talking about the NCAA, but as others have mentioned, he's likely thrown into the fire so that ESPN can offer some sort of counter argument, whether or not they actually agree with it.

If ESPN had any balls, they'd put people out there arguing that PSU deserved more than a year, maybe 4-5 years of NO football.
 

zinfamous

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Maybe I suffer from a limited imagination, but I can't for the life of me see how protecting Sandusky could have ever looked like it was "good" for the football team. Not being sarcastic, I just can't see it.


neither do I. And that's the problem.

That's what these guys believed, and that's why the did it. It's beyond the pale.
 

lupi

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Why would they argue anything about something as stupid as pen state losing football when the item under discussion only has tertiary involvement with the football program.
 

SP33Demon

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Oh...SPORTS "Journalists."

ROFL. give me a fucking break. Yeah, please wake me when the analysis of a fucking sports "journalist" becomes relevant to anything in the real world.

They are more or less qualified to discuss when some program starts paying players, or point shaving--things that don't matter for dick outside of ESPN's irrelevant little sphere. There was no NCAA precedent for endemic corruption that attempted to bury a child rape ring. Well, now there is. Eat it.


All these ESPN dingbats care about is their precious sports, but to be honest, you're just eating up the shit they don't really believe. When the hell has Jay Bilas ever said anything about football? Sure, he's talking about the NCAA, but as others have mentioned, he's likely thrown into the fire so that ESPN can offer some sort of counter argument, whether or not they actually agree with it.

If ESPN had any balls, they'd put people out there arguing that PSU deserved more than a year, maybe 4-5 years of NO football.

Yep Jay Bilas analyzing college football is like me talking about astrophysics. I do respect some of their analysts opinions though like Schlabach and I know he was calling for the death penalty.
 

Phokus

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