Penn State protects child rapist that was former famous D-Coordinator

[bfdd]

what the NCAA did stripping them of wins is fucking stupid, it inadvertently screws over the guys that played so hard to earn those wins. fuck the coaches, put a mark on their career add an asterisk. but don't strip the entire school of wins. retarded.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Guess which group of people who couldn't shut up just made a statement?

Of course you guessed right

you act like this is such a terrible thing.

 

[cronos]

you act like this is such a terrible thing.

How could you not think so?

 

[preslove]

Mizzou wouldn't go anyway.

srsly. Mizzou is now in the SEC and will make more bowl money than they would in the pedo 12.

 

[SP33Demon]

Guess which group of people who couldn't shut up just made a statement?

Of course you guessed right

They (Paterno family) said: "How Sandusky was able to get away with his crimes for so long has yet to be fully understood, despite the claims and assertions of the Freeh report."

Actually it's quite clearly understood due to the mountain of evidence that includes documented emails that Joe called off the dogs (Curley in particular, Schultz/Spanier via Curley's email) in 2001 when they wanted to go to the police, you fucktard-shit-for-brains Paterno family. Keep ignoring the emails which weren't erased you losers, which is direct indisputable evidence.

 

[SP33Demon]

srsly. Mizzou is now in the SEC and will make more bowl money than they would in the pedo 12.

You mean the Pedo 10. The Big 12 has nothing to do with this scandal.

 

[cronos]

They (Paterno family) said: "How Sandusky was able to get away with his crimes for so long has yet to be fully understood, despite the claims and assertions of the Freeh report."

Actually it's quite clearly understood due to the mountain of evidence that includes documented emails that Joe called off the dogs (Curley in particular, Schultz/Spanier via Curley's email) in 2001 when they wanted to go to the police, you fucktard-shit-for-brains Paterno family. Keep ignoring the emails which weren't erased you losers.

Here's another gem:

"The sanctions announced by the NCAA today defame the legacy and contributions of a great coach and educator without any input from our family or those who knew him best."

On top of the obvious arrogance, that statement doesn't even make any sense. According to them, before NCAA is handing out sanctions that will affect Paterno's legacy, it needs to ask permission from the family first.

 

[zinfamous]

Guess which group of people who couldn't shut up just made a statement?

Of course you guessed right

I have to side with The Vrolok on this:

60% grief, 40% denial. Grief is a son-of-a-bitch, and if you haven't gone through it, then you will never understand this until you do.

I don't imagine them changing their stance on this in their lifetimes. The only thing that changes is that more and more denial will simply replace some of the grief, as that recedes.

 

[surfsatwerk]

I have to side with The Vrolok on this:

60% grief, 40% denial. Grief is a son-of-a-bitch, and if you haven't gone through it, then you will never understand this until you do.

I don't imagine them changing their stance on this in their lifetimes. The only thing that changes is that more and more denial will simply replace some of the grief, as that recedes.

If my father was accused of such things I totally could see myself being in denial about it.

 

[cronos]

I have to side with The Vrolok on this:

60% grief, 40% denial. Grief is a son-of-a-bitch, and if you haven't gone through it, then you will never understand this until you do.

I don't imagine them changing their stance on this in their lifetimes. The only thing that changes is that more and more denial will simply replace some of the grief, as that recedes.

I completely understand the grief+denial thing, the blunder was making all of these statements public. They should have just keep it to themselves.

 

[waggy]

I completely understand the grief+denial thing, the blunder was making all of these statements public. They should have just keep it to themselves.

yep. i understand why they are saying it. i don't understand telling the world that though.

 

[sactoking]

Guess which group of people who couldn't shut up just made a statement?

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It seems like Paterno's family are trying to find a way to look worse then he did coming out of this mess.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

They have no understanding of how their comments look to the outside world. They've grown up in a bubble where JoePa was King. Now that that image has been shattered, they have no frame of reference for how their comments will be perceived. It's grief and denial, but it's compounded by having zero understanding that the rest of the world doesn't care one way or the other about Paterno's legacy.

 

[lupi]

Can't really fault them seeing as the ncaa is handing out sanctions for rule violations that don't appear in the rule book.

 

[IAteYourMother]

How could you not think so?

If there's anyone who's going to defend him, it's going to be his family. This is neither a shocking nor an uncommon occurrence, and quite frankly, I'm ok with his son/family being the few defending him.

 

[11thHour]

They (Paterno family) said: "How Sandusky was able to get away with his crimes for so long has yet to be fully understood, despite the claims and assertions of the Freeh report."

Actually it's quite clearly understood due to the mountain of evidence that includes documented emails that Joe called off the dogs (Curley in particular, Schultz/Spanier via Curley's email) in 2001 when they wanted to go to the police, you fucktard-shit-for-brains Paterno family. Keep ignoring the emails which weren't erased you losers, which is direct indisputable evidence.

jay paterno said in an interview recently, "I just wish there was something that would have...we all wish there was something [that would have told joepa and others sandusky was molesting children.]"

as if sandusky admitting to bodying up a child in the showers in '98, and then an eyewitness of him raping a child in the showers in '01 wasn't "something."

stripping penn of wins is the best part of these sanctions. It has no financial or local economic repercussions yet hits those still defending paterno where it hurts the most, in the ego

 

[Broheim]

Guess which group of people who couldn't shut up just made a statement?

Of course you guessed right

ajax is nice and all but that comment system is retarded, I can hardly finish reading a comment before it's bumped off screen :thumbsdown:

 

[Pens1566]

Can't really fault them seeing as the ncaa is handing out sanctions for rule violations that don't appear in the rule book.

Lack of institutional control is kind of their big hammer ... textbook case.

 

[Wreckem]

Lack of institutional control is kind of their big hammer ... textbook case.

Lack of institutional control has NEVER been used like this. Its always been used for lack of control over player issues. Not coaches/school administrators violating criminal laws.

 

[cronos]

If there's anyone who's going to defend him, it's going to be his family. This is neither a shocking nor an uncommon occurrence, and quite frankly, I'm ok with his son/family being the few defending him.

What they are commenting on is the NCAA sanctions given out to Penn State football program. Because of their arrogance, somehow they thought this is an attack to Paterno as a person.

 

[cronos]

ajax is nice and all but that comment system is retarded, I can hardly finish reading a comment before it's bumped off screen :thumbsdown:

Yeah, for the hot articles you've got to push the pause button before you start reading.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Vacating wins? Seems kind of silly to me, as most NCAA penalties are. At least in other cases you vacate wins because of some sort of competitive advantage. Unless Sandusky raping innocent victims did help JoePa win games for the last 15 years.

You could argue that if they found out 15 years ago, JoePa would have been fired then, and he wouldn't have won any games since then.

You could also say that if JoePa had immediately outed Sandusky instead of protecting him, he wouldn't have been punished in the first place; rather, he'd be a minor hero. PSU would have been hurt but they would have recovered rather quickly.

This is basically the NCAA saying that a coach who helps cover up child rape is not to be considered a legitimate head coach, and therefore his wins should not be recognized. And I'm okay with that.

 

[preslove]

You mean the Pedo 10. The Big 12 has nothing to do with this scandal.

The Big 10 has 12 members. It used to be called the little 11 because it had 11 teams, but then they added Nebraska.

I guess it's too confusing to use the actual number of teams.

 

[preslove]

Can't really fault them seeing as the ncaa is handing out sanctions for rule violations that don't appear in the rule book.

Lack of institutional control has NEVER been used like this. Its always been used for lack of control over player issues. Not coaches/school administrators violating criminal laws.

Only fucking idiots think that the NCAA overstepped their authority. They didn't overstep anything. I skimmed through the Division I rulebook (and have posted it several times in this thread) when Sandusky first was on the front page. There is (as I assumed there would be) an early ethics section that was clearly broken. Usually, when a member of a membership organization egregiously breaks the early ethics section of the governing rules, the normal response is simply to expel the member. Unless there are specific bylaws spelling out what to do in that specific situation, whatever board or committee governs the organization can do whatever it wants. Penn State agreed to these decisions because they knew that the NCAA had the leverage with its perfectly legal powers to expel an unethical member institution.

Unless there are specific rules outlining how to deal with covering up and enabling child rape, the NCAA Executive Committee had authority to do anything they wanted. If Penn State can't abide by their decisions, they are perfectly within their rights to refuse to comply and exit the NCAA.

 

[AstroManLuca]

The Big 10 has 12 members. It used to be called the little 11 because it had 11 teams, but then they added Nebraska.

I guess it's too confusing to use the actual number of teams.

kick out PedState, bump Minnesota down to Division II since they regularly get beaten by D-II teams anyway, boom 10 teams