Penn State protects child rapist that was former famous D-Coordinator

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Gigantopithecus

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tho at the time there was little evidence to support the accusations(that ended up being true) that higher ups knew and looked the other way

So little evidence that PSU decided to spend what, $6,000,0000 investigating? Little evidence my ass.

that they came out right in the end, doesnt make them not basless at the time ;)

How naive are you? I have a bridge available for sale...
 

Capt Caveman

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I heard a little while ago a discussion about the the civil cases involved with this incident and they referenced a case where a child was raped by a teacher or somebody associated with the University and the plaintiff was awarded $28 million, I believe.

Looks like with ten plaintiffs that should eat-up all of PSU's endowment and then some. Of course, the smart thing would be PSU settling with these victims for some amount and not spend the money to fight it in court.
 

Gigantopithecus

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I heard a little while ago a discussion about the the civil cases involved with this incident and they referenced a case where a child was raped by a teacher or somebody associated with the University and the plaintiff was awarded $28 million, I believe.

Looks like with ten plaintiffs that should eat-up all of PSU's endowment and then some. Of course, the smart thing would be PSU settling with these victims for some amount and not spend the money to fight it in court.

Err, $28 million times ten plaintiffs is $280 million. PSU's endowment is almost $2 billion.

I wonder why PSU chose this week, of all weeks, to let Freeh release his report. This is the slowest sports week of the year. The olympics start in two weeks. Whoever runs their PR show went full retard, that's for sure.

The saddest thing about this scandal is that it's very unlikely to change 'too big to fail' college sports. The NCAA is not going to terminate PSU's program. The JoePa cultists won't let cooler heads in State College prevail in mitigating the idolatry of a child rape enabler. The DoE will slap PSU on the wrist for failing to implement federal law for two decades.

The only good things to come out of this mess are the research and care centers PSU says they're creating for child abuse, and that PSU's football opponents will forever hold a mighty effective trump card: "At least my program wasn't built on the bleeding anuses of little black boys."
 

Miramonti

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Am I the only one who thinks this comment is beyond fucked up? What the hell is wrong with you? Holy fucking shit.



These people, they are completely out of touch with reality. I thought Cupertino's RDF was strong.

Y'all can rape me train style for $100m. That's fvcking absurd. No disrespect or insensitivity intended, but these victims should get $10-15 million each imo. To strip 1/2 of penn's huge endowment due to the actions of a few is wrong.

I'll go a step further regarding punishment. I've suggested (and others) a 5 year football ban. I withdraw that. This is not a recruiting violation, and shouldn't be penalized in the same respective scale because they'd have to ban football forever at penn.

I say a 1 year football ban and a lifetime ncaa ban for Spanier and Schultz, and a 15 year ban for Curley. Anything else they can do to these guys, ie fines, they should be applied as well. That should be provide plenty of discouragement for other individuals who might choose to involve themselves in a similar repulsive fashion in order to protect their school.
 
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Fern

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I think the NCAA needs to be careful here.

In the past they've been criticized for some of their actions regarding punishment for violations, and rightly so. But it's always been confined to just those who closely follow college football and not the broader public.

This, however, is completely different. I'm seeing this discussed all over the MSM and a lot of talk about the death penalty by people who've likely never even seen a college football game.

There will be a lot eye's on the NCAA. If they are perceived as handling this wrong - particularly if being too lenient - they'll be facing criticism from all directions.

Fern
 

momeNt

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Y'all can rape me train style for $100m. That's fvcking absurd. No disrespect or insensitivity intended, but these victims should get $10-15 million each imo. To strip 1/2 of penn's huge endowment due to the actions of a few is wrong.

I'll go a step further regarding punishment. I've suggested (and others) a 5 year football ban. I withdraw that. This is not a recruiting violation, and shouldn't be penalized in the same respective scale because they'd have to ban football forever at penn.

I say a 1 year football ban and a lifetime ncaa ban for Spanier and Schultz, and a 15 year ban for Curley. Anything else they can do to these guys, ie fines, they should be applied as well. That should be provide plenty of discouragement for other individuals who might choose to involve themselves in a similar repulsive fashion in order to protect their school.

It's not rape if you are agreeing to it. If and when you are raped, just think to yourself while you're being dominated "hey, this could make me rich".

I tell that to group of young female college students that have been raped when I conduct their grief counseling, you'd be surprised how much it helps rebuild themselves.
 

Miramonti

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It's not rape if you are agreeing to it. If and when you are raped, just think to yourself while you're being dominated "hey, this could make me rich".

I tell that to group of young female college students that have been raped when I conduct their grief counseling, you'd be surprised how much it helps rebuild themselves.

True. If I agree to it, it's prostitution. However it would be a first offense so I wouldn't likely be at risk of fpmitap having to give it up for free. :p

Penn State will certainly settle tho. No way would they let these cases go to a humiliating public trial and hand it over to a pissed off jury.
 

mmntech

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All those students protesting the investigation because it made Saint Joe look bad need to be bitch slapped.

What happened here was a complete and utter failure of the system. Paterno chose to protect his own legacy instead of coming forward. In the eyes of the law, he is just as guilty as Sandusky. He's fortunate he died before he could go to trial. He deserved to be torn apart by the wolves.

For the students protesting the investigation, I really truly hope for their sakes that this doesn't happen to their own children. You're just tempting karma at that point. I know that if it was my kid I'd take a gun to both the perp and the guy who knew about it.
 

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They need to tear down that statue of Joe Pa, shut down Ped State's football program, and charge everyone who covered it up. This is an atrocity. Many lives were ruined to protect their petty football team. What shit.
 

DCal430

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IANAL, but I don't think there is any limit?

But yes, the University is going to get shellacked with civil lawsuits. And yes, the sad reality is that this will, indeed, affect everyone.

This is exactly why accountability of those in charge--The Pres, the PSU PD, the AD is at issue. This is, yet again, part of the message of: "This is what happens when you value football culture over child welfare."

Every University, and every AD, is taking note, to be sure.

When students start seeing their tuition fees skyrocket to pay for the lawsuits wonder how much love they will still have for "JoePa".
 

Miramonti

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"Experts" believe cases will be settled for $5m...TOTAL.

He added, “surprisingly, sexual misconduct claims do not settle for the large amounts the public think they would go for. A $500,000 settlement for some of these victims is probably substantial.”

Here's a website listing a history of church-related sexual abuse settlements.

The highest awards were $11.4m/ea for 2 victims (-40% lawyer fees estimate = $3.4m/ea.) A group of 8 victims were awarded a total of $23.4m (-40% est.) for a final sum of $1.755m/ea. Many amounts per individual however were less than $100k. It appears the average is $278k per individual.

I hope they all refuse to settle for a 6 figure amount and atleast get 7 figures after lawyer fees. This wasn't just sexual abuse, it was a coverup that allowed the sexual predator to continue his abuse (altho that isn't an uncommon in many of the church settlements as well which settled for less.)
 
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cronos

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So here's something new this morning from the New York Times. Now it makes more sense to me why he came out to the media saying that he'll retire at the end of the 2011 season and the BoT shouldn't worry about him.

I thought it was just his ego wanting to announce his retirement on his own terms. Nope, while that's very likely to be true, there's some money involved in it too, a contract already signed between JP and the BoT agreeing to a sum of money payable to him (and some loan forgiveness and perks) if he retired at the end of 2011 season. A contract agreement that was started right after he had been subpoenaed to testify in front of the grand jury, a fact that was not known to all of the trustees when agreeing to this contract.

What a nice touch for ensuring Sue's continued use of the hydrotherapy massage equipment for the rest of her life no matter what happened. "Contracts are contracts", right?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/14/s...ract-amid-jerry-sandusky-inquiry.html?_r=1&hp

In January 2011, Joe Paterno learned prosecutors were investigating his longtime assistant coach Jerry Sandusky for sexually assaulting young boys. Soon, Mr. Paterno had testified before a grand jury, and the rough outlines of what would become a giant scandal had been published in a local newspaper.

That same month, Mr. Paterno, the football coach at Penn State, began negotiating with his superiors to amend his contract, with the timing something of a surprise because the contract was not set to expire until the end of 2012, according to university documents and people with knowledge of the discussions. By August, Mr. Paterno and the university’s president, both of whom were by then embroiled in the Sandusky investigation, had reached an agreement.

Mr. Paterno was to be paid $3 million at the end of the 2011 season if he agreed it would be his last. Interest-free loans totaling $350,000 that the university had made to Mr. Paterno over the years would be forgiven as part of the retirement package. He would also have the use of the university’s private plane and a luxury box at Beaver Stadium for him and his family to use over the next 25 years.
 
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