Penn State protects child rapist that was former famous D-Coordinator

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preslove

preslove

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Drako said:
You make it sound so easy :).

Were do those 85 scholarship kids go, and who want them?
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85 kids don't need to transfer. If the 20 most talented non-graduating/non-pro-seeking kids transfer, Penn St is absolutely fucked. Every single player that can transfer, will.

Every single recruit that's worth a damn is going to decommit.
 
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Drako said:
Debacle timeline:
http://blogs.sites.post-gazette.com/scandal/timeline.php
I'm sure he will continue to update as this moves along.
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IMO the most damning piece of evidence is this:
1998: Jerry Lauro, an investigator with the Pennsylvania Department of Public Welfare, testifies he and Schreffler interviewed Sandusky, and that Sandusky admits showering naked with Victim 6, admits to hugging Victim 6 while in the shower and admits that it was wrong. Schreffler advises Sandusky not to shower with a boy again and Sandusky said he would not. The case is closed after then-Centre County District Attorney Ray Gricar decides there will be no criminal charge.
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Clearly a case of special rules for special people, and evidence supporting:
zinfamous said:
preposterous importance we place in big-time collegiate athletics.
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There are things that are more important than a winning football program, and not allowing pederasts access to boys in your facilities is one of those things...

The fact that the DA who would've prosecuted Sandusky years ago eventually ended up dead with his laptop's hard drive missing is another obvious smoke signal - and where there's smoke, there's usually fire.
 
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What. The. Fuck.

Touching young boys' legs in a non-sexual way in the shower is TOTALLY NORMAL.
 
Miramonti

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KLin said:
http://espn.go.com/college-football...ry-sandusky-proclaims-innocence-nbc-interview

Wow
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This tells the prosecution 'cross every t, dot every i'... apparently the feds have offered their resources as well.

Sandusky has in his favor the reluctance of abuse victims to come forward to be subjected to scrutiny and cross examination...that is extremely difficult and some may not want to.

McQueary would have to testify against Sandusky and possibly other Penn officials. Paterno will be called to the stand as well to testify to what McQueary told him, and what he told the penn officials.

It's going to be one helluva circus.
 
preslove

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I actually think it's in Penn St.'s interest to cancel next season, at the very least. If they don't, the total number of early NFL entrances, transfers and decommits will lead to a 2-9 season, at best. Hell, they might lose to one of their easy games and go 1-10. Add to that the quality level of coach that would be willing to accept the job in the current situation, and they will be saddled with a shit coach for several years. All of this under the pall of an ongoing corruption investigation that will morph into multiyear lawsuits? No highschool graduate with ridiculous speed is going to pick Penn St. over Pitt, let alone Wisconsin or a top team from a better conference.

Constantly losing will only make things worse.

Cancel the season, allow current football players to either stay on an academic scholarship (for all the lesser players) or to transfer to another school on Penn St's dime (nfl bound). Then get your god damned university in order. Then, hire a permanent AD. Then, let the AD revive the football team by hiring a top level coach to return the team to former glory. I doubt this can be done in a year. More like 5.

The only money spent on football should be marginal funds needed to keep current facilities from falling apart (don't want rats destroying equipment, or the pipes bursting. After the investigations start to peter out, you're still one of the best football atmosphere in the Country, and nobody had to witness your school be pathetic for several years.
 
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zinfamous

zinfamous

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Zargon said:
lulz you are off your rocker.

why not just nuke the state from orbit just in case, and anything else with Penn in the name
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You seem to think that football is too important to let an indemic, institution-wide pedophile ring bring it down.

I pity you.

And believe me, PSU and rest of that state will be damn fine without that football program.

12-17mill profit really doesn't mean anything to a 4.2 billion budget.
 
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KLin said:
http://espn.go.com/college-football...ry-sandusky-proclaims-innocence-nbc-interview

Wow
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Heh, I think he is guilty as hell but one thing is clear, he hasn't gone through the legal proceeding and hasn't been convicted of the crime.

But hey, no matter, it's not just him, people associated like JoePa has been put to trial in the court of public opinion and convicted guilty, lost his job after 40+ years of legendary service, his character assassinated. Penn State has been convicted guilty. All these "outraged" people already called for the heads of everyone remotely connected, called for disbanding the football program, canceling of seasons.

Yeap, what a wonderful demonstration of how law and due process is suppose to work in the US.
 
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Just saw the interview with Bob Costas and Jerry Sandusky and damn what a fucking lying asshole. When Bob Costas ask him if he is sexual attracted to little boys he starts to dance around the quest and then just flat out says no because he fucked up. Nice cover up you sick fuck.

And how all these people clam what they saw and all these people are flat out lying? Ya right.....

He also said that he doesn't remember saying "he was to be dead" it is all on record you dumb fuck.
 
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zinfamous

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Drako said:
You make it sound so easy :).

Were do those 85 scholarship kids go, and who want them?
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transferring isn't hard. and plenty of "normal" situations allow transfers to waive the typical sit-out year.

No way would the NCAA force a PSU transfer to sit out.

I think PSU could honor the remainder of those scholarships with the tansfers.

fact is--this program is dead. They are already losing their recruits, and will probably lose all of them.

The name is forever tainted. The only sensible thing to do is axe it and suspend it for some indefinite time. No one wants anything to do with PSU football anymore. That's a fact that the (new) admin will have to accept and deal with.

There is an issue of effective punishment, sending a message that this kind of bullshit is zero tolerance. It seems to me that allowing this program to continue at this moment is quite tasteless.
 
zinfamous

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preslove said:
srsly

It's reputation/brand is worth much more than $20 million.
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I know you and I aren't the only ones talking about it--the football program, if they continue, is screwed.

Do people actually think these kids want to go around telling people they play for PSU now?

They're already losing their top recruits.
 
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zinfamous said:
You seem to think that football is too important to let an indemic, institution-wide pedophile ring bring it down.

I pity you.

And believe me, PSU and rest of that state will be damn fine without that football program.

12-17mill profit really doesn't mean anything to a 4.2 billion budget.
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Except athletic budgets and academic budgets are kept separate.

Football funds every other sport at Penn State. So shutting down football program would effectively shut down all athletics at Penn State.
 
SP33Demon

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And now McQueary claims he did more:

In a series of tweets from Alexander's feed, he quotes McQueary as saying, "I did the right thing...you guys know me...the truth is not out there fully...I didn't just turn and run...I made sure it stopped...I had to make quick tough decisions..." [@PeterAlexander; photo via AP]
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Uh huh.
 
preslove

preslove

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Wreckem said:
Except athletic budgets and academic budgets are kept separate.

Football funds every other sport at Penn State. So shutting down football program would effectively shut down all athletics at Penn State.
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And?

I wouldn't be surprised if this leads to the break up of Penn St. as an institution. It's in the interest of every single Penn St. branch campus to become independent. It's in the state's interest to disassociate as many campuses from Happy Valley as possible. Penn St. having a ton of branch campuses all over the state is weird and unique. Turning those branch campuses into small colleges and community colleges wouldn't be too far a stretch for the legislature, given the horrifying magnitude of this situation.

This is the type of scandal that warrants a complete reorganization of the state public university system. Lack of football funding shutting down volleyball is several orders of magnitude less important than that.

After Penn State Beaver recharters as University of Beaver, they can start their own volleyball
 
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preslove said:
And?

I wouldn't be surprised if this leads to the break up of Penn St. as an institution. It's in the interest of every single Penn St. branch campus to become independent. It's in the state's interest to disassociate as many campuses from Happy Valley as possible.

This is the type of scandal that warrants a complete reorganization of the state public university system. Lack of football funding shutting down volleyball is several orders of magnitude less important than that.
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You're delusional if you think they are going to bust up Penn State.
 
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