Pelosi: Deporting Illegal Immigrants 'Just Wrong'

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

Texashiker

Lifer
Dec 18, 2010
18,811
198
106
I'm talking about Pelosi's district. I'm pretty sure everyone knows that rich people are more likely to vote for Republicans... I mean that's what the Republican party represents.

The reason why I vote Republican party is because of their stance on personal responsibility.

Its not about money, or being rich,,,, or anything like that.

Take responsibility for your actions. Which is something Nancy thinks illegals should not be required to do.
 
Last edited:

Matt1970

Lifer
Mar 19, 2007
12,320
3
0
I think it's funny that conservatives so consistently call liberals lazy while living off liberals' tax dollars.

If the bottom 48% pay essentially no federal income taxes and are typically Liberal and the top 50% pay all the Federal income taxes and are Conservative, how are the Conservatives living off liberals' tax dollars?
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
87,965
55,357
136
If the bottom 48% pay essentially no federal income taxes and are typically Liberal and the top 50% pay all the Federal income taxes and are Conservative, how are the Conservatives living off liberals' tax dollars?

Uhmm, that was already explained. I was talking about Pelosi's district, where the median income is somewhere around the 70th percentile.
 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
74,744
6,761
126
The reason why I vote Republican party is because of their stance on personal responsibility.

Its not about money, or being rich,,,, or anything like that.

Take responsibility for your actions. Which is something Nancy things illegals should not be required to do.

You like only the notion of personal responsibility that applies to you. You forget that illegals came here to work and make money for their families just like you do out of a similar code of personal responsibility. The difference is that they take far greater risks and break laws to do it. It's folk like you in their circumstances that do what they do. Most of them are all a bunch of conservatives and would vote that way one day if American conservatives weren't a bunch of pecker-headed assholes. And maybe one day when they become the majority they'll pass laws to eject the illegal immigrants who came hear from white countries and stole their land. Maybe they'll let you keep your chickens.
 

Texashiker

Lifer
Dec 18, 2010
18,811
198
106
Uhmm, that was already explained. I was talking about Pelosi's district, where the median income is somewhere around the 70th percentile.

What is your point?


You like only the notion of personal responsibility that applies to you. You forget that illegals came here to work and make money for their families just like you do out of a similar code of personal responsibility. .

Drug dealers make money selling crack.

So what?

Breaking the law is still breaking the law.
 

Matt1970

Lifer
Mar 19, 2007
12,320
3
0
Uhmm, that was already explained. I was talking about Pelosi's district, where the median income is somewhere around the 70th percentile.

Umm, no it wasn't. If a group that has a higher Conservative ratio pays all the effective Federal taxes, how are Conservatives living off liberals' tax dollars?

Simple math dictates that if you make 50% above average but pay a 61% higher cost of living, you are below average.
 
Last edited:

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
74,744
6,761
126
If the bottom 48% pay essentially no federal income taxes and are typically Liberal and the top 50% pay all the Federal income taxes and are Conservative, how are the Conservatives living off liberals' tax dollars?

Instead of exercising your capacity to avoid issues, perhaps you could do a mental exercise. See if you can find any reason as to why it would be wrong to send illegals home. What would be the down side of sending them home? Why, if no down sides exist, have they not been sent home? Why are they even here? How did they get here? Who keeps them here? What are the issues pro and con. Lay our for me a gray scale that looks at all sides of the issue. Try to actually think about the issue in some way other than your autonomic regurgitation of truthiness that springs unbidden our of your mouth like a player piano.
 

Matt1970

Lifer
Mar 19, 2007
12,320
3
0
Instead of exercising your capacity to avoid issues, perhaps you could do a mental exercise. See if you can find any reason as to why it would be wrong to send illegals home. What would be the down side of sending them home? Why, if no down sides exist, have they not been sent home? Why are they even here? How did they get here? Who keeps them here? What are the issues pro and con. Lay our for me a gray scale that looks at all sides of the issue. Try to actually think about the issue in some way other than your autonomic regurgitation of truthiness that springs unbidden our of your mouth like a player piano.

Why don't you look back at post 14 to see who got off track first instead of accusing me of avoiding issues. You won't see it that way because he is one of yours.....
 

Londo_Jowo

Lifer
Jan 31, 2010
17,303
158
106
londojowo.hypermart.net
You like only the notion of personal responsibility that applies to you. You forget that illegals came here to work and make money for their families just like you do out of a similar code of personal responsibility. The difference is that they take far greater risks and break laws to do it. It's folk like you in their circumstances that do what they do. Most of them are all a bunch of conservatives and would vote that way one day if American conservatives weren't a bunch of pecker-headed assholes. And maybe one day when they become the majority they'll pass laws to eject the illegal immigrants who came hear from white countries and stole their land. Maybe they'll let you keep your chickens.

You need more profanity to go with your anger.
 

Texashiker

Lifer
Dec 18, 2010
18,811
198
106
That it makes no sense to criticize, based on job, income, taxes paid, etc, a community that is significantly above average in those areas.

What does pelosi have to do with any of that? Did she help create those jobs?

What matters is Pelosi is saying people should not be held accountable for their actions.
 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
74,744
6,761
126
You need more profanity to go with your anger.

I always use the exact amount the situation requires. I am a master at judging such thinks and you are only a piker. You are judging with a defective brain. You can tell that by the fact you use no yarrow stalks in your formulation.
 

TechBoyJK

Lifer
Oct 17, 2002
16,699
60
91
You like only the notion of personal responsibility that applies to you. You forget that illegals came here to work and make money for their families just like you do out of a similar code of personal responsibility.

Key word in there is 'illegals'. I think that's a sticky point. They're not here legally.

Try that in Russia, China, Pakistan, Iraq, Brazil, etc. You'll be arrested.
 

Londo_Jowo

Lifer
Jan 31, 2010
17,303
158
106
londojowo.hypermart.net
I always use the exact amount the situation requires. I am a master at judging such thinks and you are only a piker. You are judging with a defective brain. You can tell that by the fact you use no yarrow stalks in your formulation.

Funny how your defective brain wants the government to ignore the laws that prohibit people from illegally coming and staying the US but follow the laws when it comes to gun control in Colorado.
 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
74,744
6,761
126
What does pelosi have to do with any of that? Did she help create those jobs?

What matters is Pelosi is saying people should not be held accountable for their actions.

No, she is saying that if people were held to your notion of accountability, one formulated by a defective brain, that there would ensue injustices that would be wrong. You see black and white where there are shades of gray. This is why complex issues need to be handled by liberals. Their brains are evolutionarily suited for it, adaptive to complex change and novel ideas, etc. Not paralyzed by fear fixation. When you insist on applying your truthiness solutions to things you only make a mess. Go do useful things like feed the chickens. Let the folk who have muscles where their empathy is do the heavy lifting regarding fairness and justice for all. In group, 'legal, illegal' divisive team thinking is dangerous to the totality of the people who reside in our nation.
 

Texashiker

Lifer
Dec 18, 2010
18,811
198
106
This is why complex issues need to be handled by liberals.

People who ignore laws want to pass more laws?

How is that supposed to work out in the long run?

Who gets to pick which laws should be enforced, and which laws should not be enforced?
 
Last edited:

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
39,752
20,326
146
Oh, it's wrong, because she doesn't want to pay more for lawn care, home repair, and house keeping.
 

Londo_Jowo

Lifer
Jan 31, 2010
17,303
158
106
londojowo.hypermart.net
No, she is saying that if people were held to your notion of accountability, one formulated by a defective brain, that there would ensue injustices that would be wrong. You see black and white where there are shades of gray. This is why complex issues need to be handled by liberals. Their brains are evolutionarily suited for it, adaptive to complex change and novel ideas, etc. Not paralyzed by fear fixation. When you insist on applying your truthiness solutions to things you only make a mess. Go do useful things like feed the chickens. Let the folk who have muscles where their empathy is do the heavy lifting regarding fairness and justice for all. In group, 'legal, illegal' divisive team thinking is dangerous to the totality of the people who reside in our nation.

Is that why Detroit is filing bankruptcy after years of liberal control? Or Chicago is paying through the teeth to the parking meter company resulting in less profit for their sales to a private company. Damn that liberal thinking works so well.
 

classy

Lifer
Oct 12, 1999
15,219
1
81
On the surface what she is saying is true. It is wrong, we definitely have to find a better way to allow people to come here and live here if they want to. I don't think deportation at this point on a mass scale is the answer.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
87,965
55,357
136
Is that why Detroit is filing bankruptcy after years of liberal control? Or Chicago is paying through the teeth to the parking meter company resulting in less profit for their sales to a private company. Damn that liberal thinking works so well.

That's bad reasoning.

Cities are the economic engine of the US and many of the most successful ones are under liberal control as well. Why don't you mention how well liberal thinking works there?
 

ElFenix

Elite Member
Super Moderator
Mar 20, 2000
102,402
8,574
126
If the bottom 48% pay essentially no federal income taxes and are typically Liberal and the top 50% pay all the Federal income taxes and are Conservative, how are the Conservatives living off liberals' tax dollars?

if that were at all the case then you might have a point. it's not, and you don't.


Is that why Detroit is filing bankruptcy after years of liberal control? Or Chicago is paying through the teeth to the parking meter company resulting in less profit for their sales to a private company. Damn that liberal thinking works so well.

yes, privatizing the parking meter system is really liberal.

seriously?
 
Last edited:

Matt1970

Lifer
Mar 19, 2007
12,320
3
0
No, she is saying that if people were held to your notion of accountability, one formulated by a defective brain, that there would ensue injustices that would be wrong. You see black and white where there are shades of gray. This is why complex issues need to be handled by liberals. Their brains are evolutionarily suited for it, adaptive to complex change and novel ideas, etc. Not paralyzed by fear fixation. When you insist on applying your truthiness solutions to things you only make a mess. Go do useful things like feed the chickens. Let the folk who have muscles where their empathy is do the heavy lifting regarding fairness and justice for all. In group, 'legal, illegal' divisive team thinking is dangerous to the totality of the people who reside in our nation.

Your Liberal Brain Defect causing lack of sleep is showing. Medical Science says sleep loss dumbs you down, amongst other things. http://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/excessive-sleepiness-10/10-results-sleep-loss
 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
74,744
6,761
126
Funny how your defective brain wants the government to ignore the laws that prohibit people from illegally coming and staying the US but follow the laws when it comes to gun control in Colorado.

I am not a gun control advocate. The second amendment is the law. If I were the sheriff I would either resign or disobey and take my case to the courts. I have no opinion of the merits. Not my kind of issue. I also have no opinion of illegal immigration. It is way too complex for me to say what to do. What I do know is that politicians of both parties seem to be paralyzed on the issue. What I do know is that conservative brains vary on the issue with some in the extreme. Conservatives favor low effort thinking which isn't up the task here. Just imagine if you had to answer the questions I asked. You'd probably get a headache.