Pelosi crazy.

[Zebo]

Unemployment benefits are creating jobs faster than practically any other program, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Thursday.

Talking to reporters, the House speaker was defending a jobless benefits extension against those who say it gives recipients little incentive to work. By her reasoning, those checks are helping give somebody a job.

"It injects demand into the economy," Pelosi said, arguing that when families have money to spend it keeps the economy churning. "It creates jobs faster than almost any other initiative you can name."

Pelosi said the aid has the "double benefit" of helping those who lost their jobs and acting as a "job creator" on the side.

LOL Unemployment a job creator? Why not double the benefits? Hell give unemployed one million dollars!! Just think how many jobs you would create then!!! Hell just give everyone a million dollars for good measure. Jobs jobs jobs!!!

2 trillion dollar deficit, whats another trillion or two?

Fools. And many Americans buy this shit.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/01/pelosi-unemployment-checks-best-way-create-jobs/

 

[Slew Foot]

Pelosi is a fucking dumbshit. Everyone knows this.

 

[bfdd]

LOL what a stupid bitch. Seriously I hate her, San Fransisco fucking sucks fuck all those stupid ass hippies and hipsters.

 

[Craig234]

LOL Unemployment a job creator? Why not double the benefits? Hell give unemployed one million dollars!! Just think how many jobs you would create then!!! Hell just give everyone a million dollars for good measure. Jobs jobs jobs!!!

2 trillion dollar deficit, whats another trillion or two?

Fools. And many Americans buy this shit.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/01/pelosi-unemployment-checks-best-way-create-jobs/

Zebo, your logic is atrocious.

Let me explain something very basic to you about the economy: it has a lot to do with people doing things for one another.

So when you have a guy, 'John', who has his plumbing done, buys his groceries and meals, gets a car, sees a movie, all that pays for employment of a plumber, of people at the grocery, at the theatre and in the movie industry. Now, the less money people are spending for such things, the more of those people also are broke and not spending money, and this could make a spiraling economic problem.

Keeping 'the system' working - the grocers' doors open, the car dealer's doors open, the plumber's business open, by John buying their services, can have a lot of benefit.

Now, just because this makes since with a limited program like unemployment, you are wrong to say that means a hundred times the program is better.

"Spending $25,000 on teen recreation reduces crime and saves $100,000 in law enforcement costs."

"Oh, then spend a million dollars and it's even better!"

No.

"A glass of wine a day is good for your health."

"Oh then a case of wine a day is better!!!"

No.

Your post is so ideological and ignoring of the facts as to be pure hot air nonsense. You say *nothing* about the issue you posted on, just bad logic "THEN MORE IS BETTER!"

You should really realize how bad a post that was and change your view.

Pelosi has a good point. You can debate the deficit issue all day, but it doesn't change, whether you're right or wrong, that she has a point.

Wasn't it in this forum yesterday I saw a conservative statement 'don't give people government-provide housing, give them the voucher/money to buy housing', because that is more efficient and helpful for the economy/housing market? I thought it was a reasonable point, and it's the same basic point Pelosi is making.

 

[Craig234]

LOL what a stupid bitch. Seriously I hate her, San Fransisco fucking sucks fuck all those stupid ass hippies and hipsters.

You sound like the KKK talking about how blacks aren't human - the idiocy making the reader realize they should not give in to the temptation to find humor in your car wreck.

 

[classy]

I love me some Nancy, but I gotta shake my head on that one.............

 

[theeedude]

Unemployed spending their bennies sure keeps a lot of others employed.

 

[waggy]

You sound like the KKK talking about how blacks aren't human - the idiocy making the reader realize they should not give in to the temptation to find humor in your car wreck.

really craig t hats a reach..


And she is kinda slightly a little right. people spend when they get money. Unemployment helps people pay bills..so that keeps people in jobs! witch keeps in jobs (which the Obama admin has stated is the same as making them)

 

[MotF Bane]

And yet she's two heartbeats away from the Presidency.

 

[Kirby]

You sound like the KKK talking about how blacks aren't human - the idiocy making the reader realize they should not give in to the temptation to find humor in your car wreck.

Are you fucking retarded? Regardless of his statement that comparison is worse than comparing cheetos to 12th century literature.

 

[nick1985]

You sound like the KKK talking about how blacks aren't human -

Great analogy!

 

[Zebo]

Zebo, your logic is atrocious.

Let me explain something very basic to you about the economy: it has a lot to do with people doing things for one another.

So when you have a guy, 'John', who has his plumbing done, buys his groceries and meals, gets a car, sees a movie, all that pays for employment of a plumber, of people at the grocery, at the theatre and in the movie industry. Now, the less money people are spending for such things, the more of those people also are broke and not spending money, and this could make a spiraling economic problem.

Keeping 'the system' working - the grocers' doors open, the car dealer's doors open, the plumber's business open, by John buying their services, can have a lot of benefit.

Now, just because this makes since with a limited program like unemployment, you are wrong to say that means a hundred times the program is better.

"Spending $25,000 on teen recreation reduces crime and saves $100,000 in law enforcement costs."

"Oh, then spend a million dollars and it's even better!"

No.

"A glass of wine a day is good for your health."

"Oh then a case of wine a day is better!!!"

No.

Your post is so ideological and ignoring of the facts as to be pure hot air nonsense. You say *nothing* about the issue you posted on, just bad logic "THEN MORE IS BETTER!"

You should really realize how bad a post that was and change your view.

Pelosi has a good point. You can debate the deficit issue all day, but it doesn't change, whether you're right or wrong, that she has a point.

Wasn't it in this forum yesterday I saw a conservative statement 'don't give people government-provide housing, give them the voucher/money to buy housing', because that is more efficient and helpful for the economy/housing market? I thought it was a reasonable point, and it's the same basic point Pelosi is making.

The problem is for economy to fuction is we must produce. Instead we are choking off production for a non producer and doing it on borrowed money. Why should an unemployed person get the product of a producing person? Why would a clerk load up groceries for a non producer? She won't for long once people figure out unemployment is the way to go. Don't work and still get your plumbing fixed, wait...why is that plumber still working? Oh he's not.

 

[werepossum]

Are you fucking retarded? Regardless of his statement that comparison is worse than comparing cheetos to 12th century literature.

ROFL! Best analogy analogy ever.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Especially given our consumer based economy, consumers with money create more jobs than consumers without money. Folks on the right love to ignore this little demand side nugget. Actually, they largely ignore the demand side of economics altogether.

 

[Jmman]

If unemployment benefits are the best way that this current group of knuckleheads can come up with to create jobs, we are in serious trouble indeed.......

 

[Craig234]

really craig t hats a reach..


And she is kinda slightly a little right. people spend when they get money. Unemployment helps people pay bills..so that keeps people in jobs! witch keeps in jobs (which the Obama admin has stated is the same as making them)

I'm not talking about the issue of the money, I'm talking about his sputtering rage against 'those hippes sputter hate them so much I'm turning read hate hippies and Pelosi' stuff.

This is the mindless hate that our many-billions right-wing media has created, creating a whole industry out of stimulating the 'hate' parts of the brain of millions of Americans.

Fox has been called the 'angry old white men' network whose primary product is 'say things that infuriate old while men' who get addicted to that, and just get constant rage.

That's the degraded state for many of the people who consume those products, which are sold largely to get the votes of those people by making them hate the 'right' things.

It's really the same basic thing IMO, in the hate, even though with the KKK and blacks it had less 'big media' pushing it, it was more just about their feelings of superiority.

 

[Zebo]

Oh and of course you can't keep facad for long

The dollar plunged today following a United Nations report which called for the greenback to be replaced as the global reserve currency by the International Monetary Fund’s special drawing rights (SDRs).

http://www.prisonplanet.com/dollar-plunges-after-un-call-to-ditch-greenback.html
If the dollar loses its reserve currency we will not be able to borrow, ie not consume.... what's left? These worthless folks we breed competing with hard nosed Chinese/Germans etc for worlds market? LOL ...

 

[Craig234]

Are you fucking retarded? Regardless of his statement that comparison is worse than comparing cheetos to 12th century literature.

No, you are an idiot is the problem here. His irrational sputtering hate of 'Pelosi and hippies', and the irrational sputtering hate KKK whites have of 'blacks', is a very similar thing.

You say they have nothing in common because you don't get that they do, not because they don't. One of us is right - they have nothing in common, or you're an idiot.

 

[Craig234]

Oh and of course you can't keep facad for long


http://www.prisonplanet.com/dollar-plunges-after-un-call-to-ditch-greenback.html
If the dollar loses its reserve currency we will not be able to borrow, ie not consume.... what's left? These worthless folks we breed competing with hard nosed Chinese/Germans etc for worlds market? LOL ...

The right takes a perfectly accurate statement about the one issue, and can't understand it's not saying 'these benefits should be our entire economic plan'.

If your doctor tells you to eat more fruit and less fried food, the harm you get from smoking doesn't prove him wrong.

Our economy has far bigger issues whatever we do on these benefits. Pelosi is right that they help. The fact the economy sill has big problems does not probe her wrong.

I said your logic was horrible in the previous post.

You just add more bad logic in the one here.

 

[*kjm]

Especially given our consumer based economy, consumers with money create more jobs than consumers without money. Folks on the right love to ignore this little demand side nugget. Actually, they largely ignore the demand side of economics altogether.

I realy hope you are joking......

 

[MotF Bane]

Are you fucking retarded? Regardless of his statement that comparison is worse than comparing cheetos to 12th century literature.

ROFL. Nice one.

 

[glenn1]

Unemployed spending their bennies sure keeps a lot of others employed.

As if we need more people employed in jobs like selling lottery tickets, beer, and fast food.

 

[Zebo]

Especially given our consumer based economy, consumers with money create more jobs than consumers without money. Folks on the right love to ignore this little demand side nugget. Actually, they largely ignore the demand side of economics altogether.

I talk about demand a lot when I talk about Unions. It's important to distribute wealth because some high paid union guy may buy something from my store and a wall street banker offshoring that plant never will. I don't go to the Hamptons or build Yachts so I have to rely on Joe Six pack. Problem here is we are doing it on borrowed money which everyone is joint a severally liable for. We are hooking up non production instead of producers. Meanwhile banks are cutting off the private sector SBA/Commerical lending etc those who actually create something people buy. Because they are lending it to non-producers instead. 2/3 of Americans are such.

Oh and consumer based economy is a pyramid scheme. Just wait. I hope you read my survival guide.

 

[spidey07]

Sure fire way to lower unemployment would be to stop the unemployment extension. Then folks would have more money because they have a real job, spend more and boom, economy fixed.

Hunger is a hell of a motivator.

 

[StageLeft]

pelosi is insane or worse a liar