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Homerboy

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My notifications for this thread stopped. Here I was thinking you guys weren't talking about anything.

I was pretty neutral on the Delve part of the league until I watched Ziggy's video detailing out all the stuff to explore on the sides of the cart path. Before I was just going from point to point and the rewards were eh. But there is actually a lot of minor paths off the main cart path and there is stuff at the end of nearly all of them. Matter fact, there is almost too much currency on some of the long paths from all the random lost wealth chests.

You need to get your flare count up to around 8+ and your darkness resist up to at least 0%. From there you want to explore every little minor path off the main cart path. If you aren't doing this you are seriously doing yourself a disfavor. You just have make sure you stock up on flares between every point. I went from have 3 walls blown up on Friday to over 50 by Sunday.

I've also found that leveling has been super easy because of the mob quantity in the Delve part. However, I've died way more then ever because of trying to rush items and then dying. Once I understand the flares and darkness resistance better it doesn't happen anymore.

Noted!
 

Feneant2

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Homer, or anyone else, I could use a couple of claws around level 30 if you have some lying around.
 

Feneant2

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Looking for attack speed and life on hit primarily... life on kill and resists secondary.

Someone dropped a couple so I picked them up this morning although I'm ~10 levels away from using them.
 
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Homerboy

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Looking for attack speed and life on hit primarily... life on kill and resists secondary.

Someone dropped a couple so I picked them up this morning although I'm ~10 levels away from using them.

K. Will keep those in mind when I'm playing.
 

Vivendi

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Yea I put those claws in, even though they were 10 levels above what you asked for. Also, I didn't look at their mods either... never used claws so I wasn't sure whats good. I'll keep a lookout for more claws.

Edit: I'm putting more claws as I find them in the 2nd tab of the guild stash.
 
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rstrohkirch

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Man this league is frustrating. I've had bad lag this league for some reason where it was fine last league. It's almost like packet loss. I can't even count how many times I've died in Delves because of it. I should be 93 or 94 by now and I'm still 91. I occasionally play at another location that has a different provider, ATT vs Charter at my house and it does it there as well. I've turned off lockstep which helps a lot during mapping but holy shit it's instant death in Delves. All of a sudden your back half a screen with 20 stacks of darkness and boom. I don't really need the stat points but it uses up my sulphite which is the really annoying part. Ugh
 

Vivendi

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I have to play using Predictive because I'm here all the way in Saskatchewan. It's definitely the worst performance I've seen from GGG servers till now. I have PoE on a SSD and new zones used to load up in 1-2 secs in previous leagues, barely enough time to read the text or count Atziri's *****, but now I get stuck on the Azurite mining screen for 10-15 seconds sometimes. Going to a town takes similar amount of time for me. And it's not just lag spikes, I've also been getting instance failure errors and must've had the game crash on me at least 3 times so far.
 

Majes

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Man this league is frustrating. I've had bad lag this league for some reason where it was fine last league. It's almost like packet loss. I can't even count how many times I've died in Delves because of it. I should be 93 or 94 by now and I'm still 91. I occasionally play at another location that has a different provider, ATT vs Charter at my house and it does it there as well. I've turned off lockstep which helps a lot during mapping but holy shit it's instant death in Delves. All of a sudden your back half a screen with 20 stacks of darkness and boom. I don't really need the stat points but it uses up my sulphite which is the really annoying part. Ugh

This 100%... I've had one completely unplayable day, and numerous deaths where I just blip around the screen till I die. I also got one shot through 6500 HP on my Juggernaut with fortify by a blue mob. Stuff like that just isn't fun. So while I enjoy the Delve content I haven't really played it that much and I don't know that I will. It's just too frustrating to push for a level and then have 2 deaths or so that you have no control over.
 

Feneant2

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Did you want us to just but some unique leveling weapons in the stash?

If you guys have some, sure- I just put them back when I'm done. I got to Act 4 and finding its starting to get challenging. Levels 1-20 are always pretty easy but I find the 20-60 gets harder and harder.
 

Homerboy

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Man this league is frustrating. I've had bad lag this league for some reason where it was fine last league. It's almost like packet loss. I can't even count how many times I've died in Delves because of it. I should be 93 or 94 by now and I'm still 91. I occasionally play at another location that has a different provider, ATT vs Charter at my house and it does it there as well. I've turned off lockstep which helps a lot during mapping but holy shit it's instant death in Delves. All of a sudden your back half a screen with 20 stacks of darkness and boom. I don't really need the stat points but it uses up my sulphite which is the really annoying part. Ugh

Well when we were partying the other night all those deaths I had were because of that 1-2 sec lag. Was infuriating. No mobs... BOOM mob and you're dead. Thanks for playing. I have to say though, I really haven't noticed it too much soloing. I have 1gbps fiber to my house, and while the speed of the line doesn't play too much into such things, I have to say that the pings and "steadiness" of the line since I had it installed are pretty amazing.

Hoping to get some play time in this weekend. Been busy with stupid "real world" stuff and that RF build seems to be starting to hit a wall too. NEED MORE LIFE
 

Thump553

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Here's a link to a nice write-up (with pictures) on how to find fractured walls. I have managed to find my first.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2204851

The whole lag type thing is very unpredictable. For me yesterday was pretty bad but today I have no problems at all. Perhaps with all the new content and improved graphics coupled I'm sure with an increased player count (at least while people are checking out delve), well it's a good way to stress test the platform.
 

Feneant2

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Thanks Thump, I'll check that out as I've yet to find any.

And thank you to whoever put the claws in the bank, that'll help me and I'll grab them as I get to the levels I can use them.
 

Homerboy

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what's the dang channel for trade/missions? I need one more trial for uber. I'm going to have to pay for it.
 

Feneant2

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No need for more claws, the 2 uniques in there can stay and i'll use them but the ones I have will tide me to ~60.

Also thanks Homer, he gave me a badass corrupted claw.
 

Homerboy

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No need for more claws, the 2 uniques in there can stay and i'll use them but the ones I have will tide me to ~60.

Also thanks Homer, he gave me a badass corrupted claw.

Yeah I had that drop in a Elder map and figured it was worth more to you than to me. Now just climb to lvl70 :)
 

Homerboy

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Had a nice 3 Magma Orb enchantment this weekend on my helm. Sold for 7E! Thanks to my kind POE Sherpa for randomly noticing this and pointing it out. I had NO idea it was worth $$$! Now I have to find a new helm for myself!
 
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WhiteNoise

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Anyone play around with flicker strike? I just redid my Scion and went with a Flicker build and for clearing maps it is about the best I have played yet. All of my builds are based off clear speed but this flicker build is super fast! If you run flicker strike you can potentially be a destroyer of maps...even if you have no idea where your char will end up....if you have used flicker strike you will know what I mean.
 

rstrohkirch

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I didn't like flicker when I tried it a few leagues ago. I was constantly constantly running backwards to pickup loot. I'd rather play a fast bow build that one shots the screen on packs.

Also, I'm incredibly annoyed by this sulphite rebalance. They just did a big fuck you to everyone who isn't running top tier maps.
 
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Thump553

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The change to sulphite farming was a big step backward, especially since it wasn't accompanying by an increase in the drop rate of maps. For SSF it is another hard blow. What I liked about delve was the ability to progress without having to run under leveled maps over and over again because nothing high drops. This league I have been very aggressive in trying to fill my atlas as quickly as possible-I buy nearly anything zana sells, scour level 6 and higher blues and alch them, sell low level maps to vendors, etc.. My main toon is level 87-88 and I'm just barely into level 8 maps, only have one or two level 9 and one level 10.

High tier maps should be rare, but you shouldn't have to struggle to maintain a sustainable inventory of low and mid level maps.

It would be nice if you could pool sulphite so any of your toons could use it. I have some that don't have the rapid mass killing power needed for mines, their sulphite is just a waste.

From a game design point I can see GGG's point but unless and until they improve map drop rates and quality (or at least have zana sell more and better) the game is frustratingly crippled.. It's a shame because delve has been the most enjoyable new feature in a long time.
 

rstrohkirch

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Man, next day post and a fix same day. The salt rivers must have been strong.

I don't really know what to say about his post other than it shows a disconnect between his understanding of the game and how it actually functions. That or he's just lying. They assumed players playing at a specific depth were also constantly playing at the same tier map level? The fact they're own game is not setup to sustain maps for an average player, so people are often playing at multiple tiers below the level they are capable off....some how alluded them? Come on. You could have described the league to me in 1 minute and without even playing it I could have told you that. Hell, they should know SSF players would suffer from this scenario a constantly. Just baffling.
 
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Majes

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I'm level 93 delving with level 82 mobs and mapping at T8-T9... It's a strange dynamic at the moment because I can get experience from delving but I don't really get any from my maps. It really puts into focus how harsh the mapping experience is.

I complain every league about map drops. It's been the worst part of the game every league barring Harbinger where the orbs made it possible for an average player.

From my experience to sustain a pool of maps you must do most if not all of the following...
Chisel
Alch
Vaal or run with a zana mod
Have shaper or Elder influence
Use fragments
Run full map possible prophecies
and
full clear the map

When I do all of those my map pool grows. When I skip one I sustain or drop. When I skip more than one I drop, and a big drop will take me back to T8.

I don't really care anymore though. I just play each league until I hit the mapping wall and then quit unless I re-roll a new character. It's confusing for me though since I would play so much more if they allowed me to access end game maps each league.
 
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Thump553

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Based on a few hours play post-patch it looks like I may have overreacted on the suplhite changes. On the negative side, quarry now seems useless-roughly 30 sulphite and not every instance has it (based on a very few runs I did). Also negative is that the sulphite cost of runs in the delve mine at least doubled in the monster level 74 area I'm currently in.

On the positive side maps seem to drop a lot more sulphite. I filled my pool of 3000 in three maps -a level 5, 8 and 10 (all rare). Also I'm in an Abyssal Chambers of the mine. Downstairs there is usually at a chest full of maps.