Pat Robertson: Haiti earthquake is divine retribution for a pact with the devil

[AreaCode707]

just food for thought since most people have turned this into a "hate christianity thread" rather than a "disagreeing with Pat R. thread"; when hurricane katrina hit louisiana the first people on the scene were churches from across america. And this is always the case. I live in china and there have been numerous times where christian workers (including operation blessing maintained by the 700 club) have came in and built schools, dug wells, offered free medical services and many other free services even when the local govt wanted charged workers or organizations a fee to do free humanitarian work in the country. I know people like to hate christianity but take a look at some of the slum areas in america and you will always see christian outreaches helping the community in giving out free food, or trying to get people off of drugs, or even just offering the homeless a place to sleep etc etc. So argue and say what you will but if you actually open up your eyes the overall christian community is doing alot of voluntering and aid programs that are very beneficial. Anybody with common sense knows that helping people is a good thing, but for some reason people forget this

Interesting to hear a perspective from China. Are you Chinese or an expat? Are you yourself religious? I'd be interested to hear what the Christian experience is in China (as much as can be said, of course.)

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

just food for thought since most people have turned this into a "hate christianity thread" rather than a "disagreeing with Pat R. thread"; when hurricane katrina hit louisiana the first people on the scene were churches from across america. And this is always the case. I live in china and there have been numerous times where christian workers (including operation blessing maintained by the 700 club) have came in and built schools, dug wells, offered free medical services and many other free services even when the local govt wanted charged workers or organizations a fee to do free humanitarian work in the country. I know people like to hate christianity but take a look at some of the slum areas in america and you will always see christian outreaches helping the community in giving out free food, or trying to get people off of drugs, or even just offering the homeless a place to sleep etc etc. So argue and say what you will but if you actually open up your eyes the overall christian community is doing alot of voluntering and aid programs that are very beneficial. Anybody with common sense knows that helping people is a good thing, but for some reason people forget this

Welcome to the bizarro world of P&N.

 

[Avvocato Effetti]

I would very much like to see were Jesus said vengeance is his and it transferred to his followers get that Bible passage.

Pat hasn't lashed out at those who criticized him. Jesus asked Pat to turn the other cheek.

Jesus didn't leave Pat unprotected, he sent me.

 

[BoberFett]

An amusing thing I ripped from elsewhere...

Dear Pat Robertson,

I know that you know that all press is good press, so I appreciate the shout-out. And you make God look like a big mean bully who kicks people when they are down, so I'm all over that action. But when you say that Haiti has made a pact with me, it is totally humiliating. I may be evil incarnate, but I'm no welcher. The way you put it, making a deal with me leaves folks desperate and impoverished. Sure, in the afterlife, but when I strike bargains with people, they first get something here on earth -- glamour, beauty, talent, wealth, fame, glory, a golden fiddle. Those Haitians have nothing, and I mean nothing. And that was before the earthquake. Haven't you seen "Crossroads"? Or "Damn Yankees"? If I had a thing going with Haiti, there'd be lots of banks, skyscrapers, SUVs, exclusive night clubs, Botox -- that kind of thing. An 80 percent poverty rate is so not my style. Nothing against it -- I'm just saying: Not how I roll. You're doing great work, Pat, and I don't want to clip your wings -- just, come on, you're making me look bad. And not the good kind of bad. Keep blaming God. That's working. But leave me out of it, please. Or we may need to renegotiate your own contract.

Best, Satan

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

an amusing thing i ripped from elsewhere...

thank you!!!

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Wow, this is STILL going on?? AE making useless baiting points, people sucking themselves into it. If you don't feed the troll, it starves to death. Which is exactly what pattycakes would want. I know, my dog told me, and since I'm dyslexic...

 

[Moonbeam]

An amusing thing I ripped from elsewhere...

Hehehehehehehehehe

 

[Avvocato Effetti]

Operation Blessing International Relief and Development Corporation (OBI) is a nonprofit 501 (c)(3) humanitarian organization based in Virginia Beach, Virginia, USA. Since 1978, Operation Blessing International has touched the lives of more than 215 million people in 105 countries and all 50 states, providing goods and services valued at more than $2.1 billion. Operation Blessing is governed by a national board of directors that includes founder M. G. "Pat" Robertson.

Could the OP, who seems to think Pat is a useless person, match even this one thing Pat has done for the poor of the World?

I don't think so. If you can, I stand corrected.

 

[Moonbeam]

I read this a long time ago:

http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_1.htm

 

[shira]

My mission here was to defend Pat. I've accomplished that mission to my satisfaction.

Along the way I have made proclamations that have hurt feelings and bruised egos. I was informed that if I proselytize, I will be banned.

For the record, God is a gentle loving Father. If you threaten God's family, he is an invincible foe.

Proof?

 

[Ozoned]

Proof?

Maybe we can get some from the IPCC. Heh. Heh.

 

[shira]

Jesus went to the Cross to die as a sacrifice required by a perfect God.

That's it.

A sacrifice to whom?

Oh, yeah, to God. God sacrificed his own son - who was actually God - to himself.

I find that a rather confused concept. But you find that concept compelling.

Interesting.

 

[shira]

Maybe we can get some from the IPCC. Heh. Heh.

I mean, it's REALLY interesting how Pat Robertson and now Avocado (or whatever his screen name is) can look at earthly events and just KNOW where the hand of God is at work.

The 911 disaster: Was that the hand of God? Was it the will of humans? Or were radical Muslims doing the will of a Christian God? And in all this, where did free will come in?

Is every bad thing that happens the hand of God? And if not, what are the criteria for knowing the difference? Avocado knows - he knows the mind of Jesus, the lucky guy.

 

[shira]

I'm not a Mormon. I'm God's son. So Jesus would be what relation to me?

Your imaginary playmate?

 

[shira]

We are nearing the time when you and me will be leaving this Earth, for a short time. You win the nice people, I will offer the Heathen warriors a chance to join an army that will never be defeated.

Street-corner crazies have been saying this same thing for at least 100 years. Since you're "connected," why not tell us how near "near" is. You know, put up or shut up.

That way, we can safely ignore you until "near" is nigh. And then when "it" doesn't happen, we can all mock you convincingly, and you won't have a leg to stand on (or a crucifix to dangle from). At which point - chastened by actual reality - you can convert back to the world of the sane, and we can all be buddies. :awe:

 

[shira]

May I ask, with all respect, how old are you?

I was there when he created the pit for the devil and his demons.

When he calculated the Universe, he weighed the drop in the palm of his hand.

I shed a tear when my Brother agreed to be the sacrifice for Adam's sin.

When all of Heaven fell silent as my Father turned his back on my brother, I thought we were finished.

I have seen into the future as my Brother (as it is written - the sword in his mouth) says it so simply to Satan, go to Hell, and ends his reign.

I look out and note that his glory is from the West to the Rising of the Sun.

Um, I think AC was asking how long ago, less 9 months, your soulless zygote was conceived pursuant to your daddy fvcking your mommy.

 

[shira]

I agree. This forum is not the place to gain Wisdom, it is the place to dispense Wisdom.

Or in your case, toilet paper.

 

[growled]

I guess Pat has a right to his opinion just like I have a right to mine. I disagree with him, though.

 

[Ozoned]

shira. You weren't by any chance one of them alter boys we here about from time to time, were you?

 

[shira]

Avvocato Effetti

Just for the record, all of your Bible mumbo-jumbo carries no weight for me and has no real value as fact or evidence. So, as far as I am concerned, its use does constitute any form of argument.

Very well. Your statement is recorded. However, my Words are being recorded as well. These words will be used by the Judge to make a final determination. Don’t make the mistake of thinking that the goal here is to provide you with any kind of acceptable argument.

I’ve said before, Pat speaks for God when he lines up with what God says. I won’t issue a blanket condemnation of Pat because he is obviously on the side of God.

Voodoo is of the Devil.

Religious circles carry little weight. Pat is acceptable and appreciated in the Court of the Most High.

Wow. You don't even have the "rules of Christianity" down.

Don't you know, silly rabbit, that there's precisely ONE criterion for entrance to the Christian heaven? (Hint: Think "accepting Jesus as your savior.")

Words, deeds - utterly irrelevant. All the true-believers say so. A multiple pedophile-rapist-murderer executed by the state gets to heaven if he believes in that moment before the lights go out. The greatest, must humble humanitarian who gives all his money to charity and ministers to the poor goes to hell if he doesn't believe.

Surprised you didn't know this.

 

[shira]

shira. You weren't by any chance one of them alter boys we here about from time to time, were you?

Nah. I'm just havin' a great ol' time with Avocado's posts. He's a great inspiration. Not in the way he intended, unfortunately.

 

[shira]

Maybe we can get some from the IPCC. Heh. Heh.

Catastrophic weather is the hand of God - didn't Uncle Pat say that about Katrina? So I guess we should just all be good. Then all our weather will be temperate, and we won't need the IPCC any more.

 

[shira]

a Nation based on voodoo will suffer. A Nation based on Christ has to come to the rescue.

America is good.

Haiti is evil.

Hey, this "Nation based on Christ," why do you suppose that God made it suffer such a bad economic downturn? Is it that we're legalizing medicinal marijuana? Moving toward legalizing same-sex marriage? Did God anticipate we were going to elect a liberal or pass a universal health-care-plan?

And how come the atheistic Chinese are doing so well?

God's wrath sure is confusing.

 

[shira]

I read this a long time ago:

http://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_1.htm

Moonie, this passage simply CANNOT be about a real, authentic God. I mean, it's all about the supremacy and healing power of love. Not a word about punishing voodooists or homosexuals.

I simply cannot be happy on my path to heaven if God isn't smiting someone.

 

[Nemesis 1]

So, Pat Robertson signs a pact with the devil, and has the power to cause devastating earthquakes wherever he has enemies. I signed the pact, and all I got was this lousy T-shirt!

Satan does not have that kind of power . Satan may have influence over man but has none over the earth or nature , Read what Christ has to say on that very subject.