Pat Robertson: Haiti earthquake is divine retribution for a pact with the devil

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Avvocato Effetti

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You have lied so much in this topic you wouldn't know trueth if it struck you down.

I thought you were the brother of Jesus, the son of God, and a warrior. Show us a little warrioring.

It seems that the main objection at this point is the definition of "here". Add to Webster's this: "posting in this thread".

Does that clear things up?

As for the charge of lying, you have no other platform from which to come to any other conclusion. You don't have access to the same information the I do.

That said, it is available if you receive the Key.
 

elitejp

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Do you see any influence in China by Pat Robertson's group?

China is a very productive Nation. There is correct thinking in China about energy and how to produce massive quantities of it. I like the coal production and the move toward more oil. Here in America, we have a class of people that are using college education as a religious weapon to dismantle the great industrial complex that Americans built.

I wouldnt be able to see the influence by pat robertsons group or any similiar type of group unless I was a part of it. It isnt something that is broadcasted or made well known.

Ya America is becoming a bunch of cry babies about everything.
 

elitejp

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I decided to try looking around for a few news articles about this and form my own opinion. And i realized something, Pat said that "the haitians made a pact with the devil...and have ever since by cursed". Ok? where is the problem here? I can understand you not agreeing with him that they actually made a pact with the devil. But the idea Pat is presenting i would think most would agree with and that is the devil is bad. Its the same idea of "if you play with fire you will get burned". Nowhere have i seen where he actuallly said that this was God's retribution. (however many websites are blocked where im currently at, so i might be wrong?) Rather he has said that the Devil has come and collected his price. What would you expect if you made a pact with the devil?:rolleyes:
 

sandorski

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I decided to try looking around for a few news articles about this and form my own opinion. And i realized something, Pat said that "the haitians made a pact with the devil...and have ever since by cursed". Ok? where is the problem here? I can understand you not agreeing with him that they actually made a pact with the devil. But the idea Pat is presenting i would think most would agree with and that is the devil is bad. Its the same idea of "if you play with fire you will get burned". Nowhere have i seen where he actuallly said that this was God's retribution. (however many websites are blocked where im currently at, so i might be wrong?) Rather he has said that the Devil has come and collected his price. What would you expect if you made a pact with the devil?:rolleyes:

wut?
 

Avvocato Effetti

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Nowhere have i seen where he actuallly said that this was God's retribution. (however many websites are blocked where im currently at, so i might be wrong?)


Your comments are very insightful, elitejp. You are a person of integrity to search what Pat actually said. Pat did not say that this was God's retribution, period.

The haters of Christ have blown this out of proportion in the hopes of gaining an advantage over Christians.

It's just that simple.
 

Avvocato Effetti

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If you really want to delve deep into the issue of the Nation of Haiti being cursed, do a little comparison with the Dominican Republic.

Both are on the exact same island, one is prosperous, one is not.
 

EXman

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Your comments are very insightful, elitejp. You are a person of integrity to search what Pat actually said. Pat did not say that this was God's retribution, period.

The haters of Christ have blown this out of proportion in the hopes of gaining an advantage over Christians.

It's just that simple.

Yes this is a non-issue...

You don't see 330 posts about Danny Glover saying this was retribution for Copenhagen. talk about faux outrage. Peeps here are just bigoted against Christians.

Pat Robertson Does not speak with God or the Devil and DOES NOT SPEAK for Christians. He's a blowhard.
 

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Yes this is a non-issue...

You don't see 330 posts about Danny Glover saying this was retribution for Copenhagen. talk about faux outrage. Peeps here are just bigoted against Christians.

Pat Robertson Does not speak with God or the Devil and DOES NOT SPEAK for Christians. He's a blowhard.
Better watch your step, xman. You'll get on the effeminate one's "list" for not making excuses for his boy.
 

VashHT

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I decided to try looking around for a few news articles about this and form my own opinion. And i realized something, Pat said that "the haitians made a pact with the devil...and have ever since by cursed". Ok? where is the problem here? I can understand you not agreeing with him that they actually made a pact with the devil. But the idea Pat is presenting i would think most would agree with and that is the devil is bad. Its the same idea of "if you play with fire you will get burned". Nowhere have i seen where he actuallly said that this was God's retribution. (however many websites are blocked where im currently at, so i might be wrong?) Rather he has said that the Devil has come and collected his price. What would you expect if you made a pact with the devil?:rolleyes:

So are you saying it's just random retribution then? People are pissed off because Pat is basically claiming that this earthquake is their fault. No one gives a shit if Pat said it was God's retribution or not, saying this horrible tragedy was their own fault is absolutely retarded.
 

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If you really want to delve deep into the issue of the Nation of Haiti being cursed, do a little comparison with the Dominican Republic.

Both are on the exact same island, one is prosperous, one is not.
DR is a poor sh*thole like most places in the Caribbean. I saw that last April. However, you're right it's much better than Haiti.
 

Moonbeam

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So are you saying it's just random retribution then? People are pissed off because Pat is basically claiming that this earthquake is their fault. No one gives a shit if Pat said it was God's retribution or not, saying this horrible tragedy was their own fault is absolutely retarded.

I should think that if you were a soldier of God you would be very enamored of the idea that God causes earthquakes to happen on one side of an island as opposed to the other side of the island depending on the difference in sinfulness of the people on the two sides. I mean, if I were a soldier in such an army I would feel far more confident about my purpose knowing God the killer of Haitian women and children and babies is at my side with the big guns.

Feeling all that God Power is just a fantastic thrill for the ego. I mean, do you think I'd rather look in the mirror and vomit from self-disgust?
 

Nemesis 1

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Ya I was on phone with Bob who is in haiti now . Its really bad their The after shock earlier shocked him but not as much as what his eyes and ears and smell have suffered at this divastation, What we see on TV doesn't do justice to the damage and human suffering. He told me that not only is gifting needed but able body workers and heavey equipment is needed badly .

He relaid the fact his tears have joined with those who suffer here.

Effetti Its matters not what SOME haite citizens have done in referance to a Pact that may or may not have been signed in Blood . PAT or you do not stand in judgement here. That is for GOD and God alone. Stop acting like your his agent , You are less than nothing. Would you like to open a can of worms about Some citizens of every nation on earth that have done the same exact thing you accuse all haiiti's population of doing you and pat are Very small men as far as Mankind is concerned . How you have Judged will be the judgement you recieve . Remember what you said to Moonie . About the wiseman getting a wisemans reward . So shall you a bigot and a lier as to witness for GOD . Your torment in Hell will be justiefied.
 
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VashHT

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I should think that if you were a soldier of God you would be very enamored of the idea that God causes earthquakes to happen on one side of an island as opposed to the other side of the island depending on the difference in sinfulness of the people on the two sides. I mean, if I were a soldier in such an army I would feel far more confident about my purpose knowing God the killer of Haitian women and children and babies is at my side with the big guns.

Feeling all that God Power is just a fantastic thrill for the ego. I mean, do you think I'd rather look in the mirror and vomit from self-disgust?

LoL, I guess a vengeful God tossing earthquakes at the descendants of supposed satan worshipers sounds pretty impressive.
 

evident

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DR is a poor sh*thole like most places in the Caribbean. I saw that last April. However, you're right it's much better than Haiti.


DR is anything but a "shithole". it's very up and coming. substandard by our standards but they are a very promising democracy.
 

Nemesis 1

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Ever man and Woman here should stop and look around the world they live in RIGHT now. The tempest , the earth QUAKES the starvation the diesease the break down of mans morals . You think this is just for haiti . Think again!
 

Avvocato Effetti

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Pat Robertson Does not speak with God or the Devil and DOES NOT SPEAK for Christians. He's a blowhard.

Obviously he is not supported by ALL Christians.

How many other Nationally known Christians started an organization that has given more that 2 Billion Dollars to the poor?
 

Avvocato Effetti

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Keeping 20% is more that fair. I think the average take for tv preachers is ~30%.

The operative phrase is "you think". Why don't you do a bit of research and report back to us what the overhead percentage is on that giving.

Here's a hint. It's a lot less that what your boy Jesse Jackson is doing.
 

Nemesis 1

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The operative phrase is "you think". Why don't you do a bit of research and report back to us what the overhead percentage is on that giving.

Here's a hint. It's a lot less that what your boy Jesse Jackson is doing.

YOU are a bigot or was YOUR BOY jesse jackson not a freuden slip
 

skyking

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The operative phrase is "you think". Why don't you do a bit of research and report back to us what the overhead percentage is on that giving.

Here's a hint. It's a lot less that what your boy Jesse Jackson is doing.
All sorts of levels of hate in that post.