Parents use Myspace to bust anunderage drinking party

[Josh]

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: AbAbber2k
Girl should have had her profile set to private.

I'm willing to bet it was deeper than that.

I'll bet they used a keylogger to get her passward and monitored it regularly, including her PMs.

My brother logs all the computer activity of his underage kids.

hopefully all parents do this. i have 3 kids, 11, 11 and 13. we talk about this kind of stuff all the time, and they tell me their password every time they change. it. they have no idea i already know it. props to these parents for taking care of business, despite the fact that their girl got busted too. hopefully it teaches all of them a few things about life in general.

I think that's taking it a little too far into invasion of privacy. My belief is that if you smother the children too much and want to pry too much into their lives they will want to "escape" more and more

having discussions with your kids about the rights and wrongs, as well as imposing rules on usage is far from an invasion of privacy. rules for computers at my house include "the account is not yours, its mine. your password is mine also". same goes for text messages on the oldest girls phone. i read them all, she knows it. since we have had discussions about why we do things this way, along with her friends getting busted by their parents that dont do similar things, they get to see why first hand. there is no real privacy in a family, and that goes both ways.

Don't you think they need a little space here and there? I mean I'm not a parent, so I guess I cannot say what is a good idea/bad idea, but I am a young adult. And, I can honestly say that if my parents were that nosy into my life there would be some issues. I don't think it's a bad thing to be open and honest with your children and vice versa but there comes a time when you need to take a step back and give them some sort of privacy and not force them to HAVE to tell you EVERY little thing that's goin on - I think that could end up for the worse in the long run...that's just my 2 cents.

 

[daveshel]

Originally posted by: Mwilding
Since the parents would be liable if one of the kids drove home drunk and died, they did the right thing.

Not so. Social Host Liability would only attach to the parents if they actually provided the alcohol.

This strikes me as a case of parents trying to close the barn door after the horse got out.

 

[Safeway]

Man, that sucks. I would have despised my parents for doing something like that for a long time. To be honest, it is better to host a high school party at a house. That way, people can spend the night and not drive home drunk. Hell, all the parties I went to in high school were at houses and I spent the night. Drinking is not the end of the fucking world. Doing shit like busting a party will make the students drink at a 3rd party location and drive home intoxicated. Smart parents, smart.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: Josh


I think that's taking it a little too far into invasion of privacy. My belief is that if you smother the children too much and want to pry too much into their lives they will want to "escape" more and more

having discussions with your kids about the rights and wrongs, as well as imposing rules on usage is far from an invasion of privacy. rules for computers at my house include "the account is not yours, its mine. your password is mine also". same goes for text messages on the oldest girls phone. i read them all, she knows it. since we have had discussions about why we do things this way, along with her friends getting busted by their parents that dont do similar things, they get to see why first hand. there is no real privacy in a family, and that goes both ways.

Don't you think they need a little space here and there? I mean I'm not a parent, so I guess I cannot say what is a good idea/bad idea, but I am a young adult. And, I can honestly say that if my parents were that nosy into my life there would be some issues. I don't think it's a bad thing to be open and honest with your children and vice versa but there comes a time when you need to take a step back and give them some sort of privacy and not force them to HAVE to tell you EVERY little thing that's goin on - I think that could end up for the worse in the long run...that's just my 2 cents.

you assume that i am prying into their lives by making them give me their login info for my computers. do you think its an invasion of your privacy at work since the IT dept knows where, when and what you do online at any given point? if i were holding their hands 90% of their waking hours, asking about every little thing they do and bugging them about stuff 10 times a day it would be overly intrusive. talking to your kids on occasion about how things are going in their lives and making sure they understand the "dark side" of things like facebook/ myspace and stuff like it is far from invading their privacy. i dont eagle-eye the logs watching what they do in real time (even tho i could), and i dont bust them for every little thing. i think with a good, open communication channel with your children, you can easily create an environment where they are a little more aware of things to look out for as well as a little more apt to come forward when something DOES happen that they need help with. again, they understand that the computers they use on a daily basis belong to me. not them. if they want to use them, they have to abide by my rules. they have the same set up at school, and are held to even more stringent rules there. i think it has done the polar opposite of what youre thinking. we are a close family, and arent afraid to discuss any topic. i think a lot of that has to do with our communication bond, as well as a fairly well implemented rule structure.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: Stifko
Agreed, they obviously love their daughter very much.

To subject themselves to the horror that is Myspace, I agree, they MUST care about her deeply.

That said, I wouldn't have gone so far as to call the cops. I would have kicked the kids out, called their parents to tell them what happened (and to pick up the ones who had been drinking...no drunk drivers leaving THAT party). And you can bet that there would be a LONG, detailed discussion with the daughter afterwards.

 

[Leros]

I was in high school during the days of Xanga. One of our vice principals got on to Xanga and was looking at people's pictures. He was able to identify a bunch of underaged drinking among our students. He notified the parents, but I think he also took it a bit too far. He forced people to resign from student council, made students quit the athletic teams they were on, etc. This ended up really ruining high school for a handful of students.

 

[Josh]

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: Josh


I think that's taking it a little too far into invasion of privacy. My belief is that if you smother the children too much and want to pry too much into their lives they will want to "escape" more and more

having discussions with your kids about the rights and wrongs, as well as imposing rules on usage is far from an invasion of privacy. rules for computers at my house include "the account is not yours, its mine. your password is mine also". same goes for text messages on the oldest girls phone. i read them all, she knows it. since we have had discussions about why we do things this way, along with her friends getting busted by their parents that dont do similar things, they get to see why first hand. there is no real privacy in a family, and that goes both ways.

Don't you think they need a little space here and there? I mean I'm not a parent, so I guess I cannot say what is a good idea/bad idea, but I am a young adult. And, I can honestly say that if my parents were that nosy into my life there would be some issues. I don't think it's a bad thing to be open and honest with your children and vice versa but there comes a time when you need to take a step back and give them some sort of privacy and not force them to HAVE to tell you EVERY little thing that's goin on - I think that could end up for the worse in the long run...that's just my 2 cents.

you assume that i am prying into their lives by making them give me their login info for my computers. do you think its an invasion of your privacy at work since the IT dept knows where, when and what you do online at any given point? if i were holding their hands 90% of their waking hours, asking about every little thing they do and bugging them about stuff 10 times a day it would be overly intrusive. talking to your kids on occasion about how things are going in their lives and making sure they understand the "dark side" of things like facebook/ myspace and stuff like it is far from invading their privacy. i dont eagle-eye the logs watching what they do in real time (even tho i could), and i dont bust them for every little thing. i think with a good, open communication channel with your children, you can easily create an environment where they are a little more aware of things to look out for as well as a little more apt to come forward when something DOES happen that they need help with. again, they understand that the computers they use on a daily basis belong to me. not them. if they want to use them, they have to abide by my rules. they have the same set up at school, and are held to even more stringent rules there. i think it has done the polar opposite of what youre thinking. we are a close family, and arent afraid to discuss any topic. i think a lot of that has to do with our communication bond, as well as a fairly well implemented rule structure.

Relax big guy, I didn't assume anything. From what you told me, I took it to be a little intrusive (reading text messages, knowing their logins for facebook/myspace). That's all. Like I said...my 2 cents...you have your way of doing things, I have mine. No one can say that one is better than the other.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: Josh
Dammnnnn their daughter is getting all sorts of shit for this at school. The parents should have let the other kids go as long as they weren't driving. It's kind of messed up to "capture" them in a way and make sure they get in trouble. That's just wrong.

LOL...I think it's totally appropriate. How would you feel if a couple dozen+ underage highschool kids were drinking and partying at your house without your permission?

I'd get the message out too: "GET OFF MY FUCKING LAWN!"

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: Leros
I was in high school during the days of Xanga. One of our vice principals got on to Xanga and was looking at people's pictures. He was able to identify a bunch of underaged drinking among our students. He notified the parents, but I think he also took it a bit too far. He forced people to resign from student council, made students quit the athletic teams they were on, etc. This ended up really ruining high school for a handful of students.

well, someone needed to be the example

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy
Nice. Stupid teenagers putting that stuff on Myspace and Facebook. All the parents or police have to do is look on Myspace and wow pictures of teenagers drinking. Hmmmmm.

This is the other lesson that is (hopefully) taught. Myspace and Facebook are public sites, and posting info there has consequences in the real world. Rule #1: Don't get caught.

 

[imported_Imp]

Originally posted by: Kelemvor
http://www.wausaudailyherald.c...WDH0101/803040639/1981

Summary:
two parents who, while out of town, monitored their daughter's MySpace page. They learned from the page that she was hosting a drinking party Friday night so they returned home, confirmed it and called police while the father blocked the driveway so none of the attendees could leave. Police ticketed 29 underage drinkers at the Town of Wausau home, according to the Daily Herald.

lol

Very well done by parents.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: Kadarin

Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy
Nice. Stupid teenagers putting that stuff on Myspace and Facebook. All the parents or police have to do is look on Myspace and wow pictures of teenagers drinking. Hmmmmm.

This is the other lesson that is (hopefully) taught. Myspace and Facebook are public sites, and posting info there has consequences in the real world. Rule #1: Don't get caught.

Actually...it should be Rule #1: Be aware of what you're posting on the internet. Once it's there, you might not be able to take it back. My wife and I have had to explain this to our niece since she posted overly revealing pictures of herself on myspace, then got ridiculed at school for being a slut. Her mother, unfortunately, absolutely fails at understanding the potential consequences of the internets as well.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: Kadarin

Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy
Nice. Stupid teenagers putting that stuff on Myspace and Facebook. All the parents or police have to do is look on Myspace and wow pictures of teenagers drinking. Hmmmmm.

This is the other lesson that is (hopefully) taught. Myspace and Facebook are public sites, and posting info there has consequences in the real world. Rule #1: Don't get caught.

Actually...it should be Rule #1: Be aware of what you're posting on the internet. Once it's there, you might not be able to take it back. My wife and I have had to explain this to our niece since she posted overly revealing pictures of herself on myspace, then got ridiculed at school for being a slut. Her mother, unfortunately, absolutely fails at understanding the potential consequences of the internets as well.

Did the mother post revealing pics of herself and get ridiculed at work? :laugh:


I kid...I kid...

 

[aplefka]

Originally posted by: Jeeebus
That's one hell of a driveway if the father was able to block 29 people from leaving just by blocking the driveway off.

:laugh:

I'm in the middle of this debate right now, still being able to remember the days of high school parties.

We always did things the right way (never letting people drive if they were drunk or if they had 1-2 drinks and hadn't waited at least an hour or two, etc.) and none of our friends ever got DUIs or in alcohol-related collisions. And we did a lot of partying.

Ironically though, one of our buddies was hit BY a drunk driver one night on the way back from the movies with his girlfriend and a couple other friends and almost lost his life. This was shortly after we had graduated and things had started to slowly drop off with the coming of people leaving town. He turned out to be alright.

Kids are gonna be kids, one's just gotta hope that when it comes time for their parenting to be put to the test it passes.

 

[James Bond]

What lame fucking parents for getting everyone tickets.

 

[aplefka]

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: AbAbber2k
Girl should have had her profile set to private.

I'm willing to bet it was deeper than that.

I'll bet they used a keylogger to get her passward and monitored it regularly, including her PMs.

My brother logs all the computer activity of his underage kids.

hopefully all parents do this. i have 3 kids, 11, 11 and 13. we talk about this kind of stuff all the time, and they tell me their password every time they change. it. they have no idea i already know it. props to these parents for taking care of business, despite the fact that their girl got busted too. hopefully it teaches all of them a few things about life in general.

Holy hell dude. Good luck when they get to high school. There comes a time to slowly extend the leash a little bit. Key logging and whatnot at that age seems a little ridiculous to me. Just tell them you're watching their social sites and don't want to see anything questionable.

Are you going to pick out their college and major for them too?

 

[Duddy]

I read a scientific survey that showed that girls who begin drinking at an early age (15ish) have a ~70% of becoming alcohalics before they are 25.

I myself don't drink and don't condone underage drinking (My definition for drinking being "getting wasted"). It just seems to do more bad than good. Also, most people who are under 21 are completely immature in regards to behavior under the influence.


But I FULLY support everyone's right to do whatever the f they want under THEIR own roofs.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Kelemvor
http://www.wausaudailyherald.c...WDH0101/803040639/1981

Summary:
two parents who, while out of town, monitored their daughter's MySpace page. They learned from the page that she was hosting a drinking party Friday night so they returned home, confirmed it and called police while the father blocked the driveway so none of the attendees could leave. Police ticketed 29 underage drinkers at the Town of Wausau home, according to the Daily Herald.

totally owned.

 

[summit]

Snitched

 

[jpeyton]

The only lesson the kids learned is that MySpace and Facebook are bad places to post about illegal activities.

They'll still be drinking; but they'll be more careful about it.

 

[JohnCU]

i'm guessing you people have never drank under the age or been to a party. interesting responses.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: JohnCU
i'm guessing you people have never drank under the age or been to a party. interesting responses.

Of course we did, and we took our lickings when we got caught. Doesn't mean we can't applaud the parents for outsmarting the kids. "Us people" are the only ones here who aren't taking the whole thing too seriously. Oh whaaa...so the kids got $50 fines and are grounded for a couple weeks. Sheesh.

 

[bsobel]

Anyone who drinks really doesn't have a right to tell others they can't drink. I dont understand the whole age laws regardless. Adults get plastered and cause accidents with the same ability as underage drinkers. I'll never understand how people can be so stupid in the first place, but I guess that's people for you.. There's the ones with common sense.. and then there's.... everyone else..

Wow, the stupidity of your argument is incredible. But that doesnt matter, statistics are not on your side. Minors get in more accidents as a percentage of drivers than adults by an oustanding margin. That negates the 'same ability as underage drinkers' claim. The fact that the primary cause is alcohol ruins the rest of your argument. The fact you have to be like 19 just makes it sad you don't know this.

the leading cause of death for individuals between the ages or Sixteen (16) and Nineteen (19) is related to car accidents. Similarly to that of gender based studies, it is shown that male teen drivers dominate the demographic of teens who are involved in Car accidents, that data is fast changing however as more and more female drivers are catching up and getting into serious car accidents themselves

Alcohol and then driver distraction are the leading causes of these deaths...

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Josh
Dammnnnn their daughter is getting all sorts of shit for this at school. The parents should have let the other kids go as long as they weren't driving. It's kind of messed up to "capture" them in a way and make sure they get in trouble. That's just wrong.

Kind of like how engaging in illegal activities while trespassing is wrong?

As much as I disagree with the drinking age laws, it is completely inexcusable for these kids to have trespassed onto the parents' property and to have engaged in an illegal activity there. Whether one agrees with the law or not, it exists, and by drinking in these people's home, the kids exposed the owners to massive liability from a legal standpoint. That ain't just innocent fun. As far as letting kids walk home who didn't drive, absolutely not. If one of those drunk kids (and legally, a minor who has had even a sip of alcohol is drunk) gets hit while crossing a street or trips and breaks a leg or has any form of injury on the walk home then the parents are legally liable. Safer to keep the kids there and wait for the police.

They got what they deserved. Stupidity ought to be painful.

ZV

 

[QueBert]

this stopped one party from happening, but it also wised teens up how NOT to go about throwing one. What are you people applauding exactly? I doubt a single teen at this party will stop partying as a result of this. They'll just be more sneaky and careful next time. They stopped kids from drinking ONE NIGHT out of their lives, and I bet lot probably went somewhere else right after and started to drink like nothing had happened. Good job parents & police!

I'm 33 and nobody made this big of a deal when I was a teen, yes it was wrong, yes drinking parties got broken up. But it wasn't news worthy, a shame today a story like this needs to get showcases like it's really important.