Parents keep child's gender secret

[spidey07]

This is dumb. I don't really know what they're trying to do with this baby. It's not like gender identification is something that other people force on you.

These roles and abilities are born out in us through 100s of thousands of years of evolution. To go against it should be to ones own peril and it will be for this kid. I feel bad for him/her.

 

[moshquerade]

These roles and abilities are born out in us through 100s of thousands of years of evolution. To go against it should be to ones own peril and it will be for this kid. I feel bad for him/her.

Just call the kid an "it". That would please the parents. :\

 

[MovingTarget]

They were talking about this on the radio today. As much as the hardcore libs want to deny it, gender and gender identity do exist and are unavoidable parts of life. These kids are going to get eaten alive in school. Borders on child abuse if you ask me.

Doesn't say where in Toronto they live. Five will get you ten it's somewhere south of Bloor/Danforth, and Jack Layton is their MP.

QFT. It is one thing to argue for gender equality in many parts of society, but it is a fool's errand to claim that it doesn't matter. Gender plays an integral part in determining who a person is through their experience. These parents are only going to f*ck this child up psychologically if they keep to that schtick too long.

 

[spidey07]

Just call the kid an "it". That would please the parents. :\

It will be later on as this messed up child cannot find a mate. Their rejection of the laws of nature will be their blood's downfall.

 

[DangerAardvark]

With all the other kinds of shit it's legal to afflict your kids with, this is the one you cunts get mad about? You can legally hit your kids, something you can't even do to animals. You can feed them fast food every day of their lives. You can raise them as Christian Scientists.

 

[moshquerade]

With all the other kinds of shit it's legal to afflict your kids with, this is the one you cunts get mad about? You can legally hit your kids, something you can't even do to animals. You can feed them fast food every day of their lives. You can raise them as Christian Scientists.

quoted for stupidity.

 

[LumbergTech]

It will be later on as this messed up child cannot find a mate. Their rejection of the laws of nature will be their blood's downfall.

The laws of nature don't dictate that children's gender must be known.

Honestly I think what they are doing is pointless, but I can appreciate the desire to let a child be what it wants to be instead of what it is told by society. Unfortunately it is mostly unavoidable because society also has nasty ways of dealing with people of ambiguous gender.

People don't have to be "forged" into a gender. They naturally fulfill those roles (if they are capable and it fits them) without having it beaten into them.

 

[moshquerade]

The laws of nature don't dictate that children's gender must be known.

Honestly I think what they are doing is pointless, but I can appreciate the desire to let a child be what it wants to be instead of what it is told by society. Unfortunately it is mostly unavoidable because society also has nasty ways of dealing with people of ambiguous gender.

society isn't telling the child what gender to be. the fact that the kid has a vagina or a penis, will grow breasts, or have nuts, is what is telling the kid whether it's male or female.

 

[DangerAardvark]

Your mindless flailing against "liberal" parenting is so predictable that it's pathetic. I don't agree with what they're doing, but claiming that it's going to ruin the child's life is just speculation.

 

[LumbergTech]

society isn't telling the child what gender to be. the fact that the kid has a vagina or a penis, will grow breasts, or have nuts, is what is telling the kid whether it's male or female.

gender != your sex necessarily

people get quite upset about ambiguous sex because they think that you have to treat people of different sex different ways

 

[TheVrolok]

gender identity != your sex necessarily

ftfy

 

[LumbergTech]

ftfy

thanks yes that is my point

if the parents are punishing the child for exhibiting normal behaviors as a girl or a boy then they shouldn't be allowed to have a child, but honestly i think this harmless unless you are super old school and feel that people must be drilled into their roles

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I don't think that this is a big deal either. The kid will understand the relationship between sex and gender soon enough, and once it takes a gander at a human anatomy book it will figure out for itself. Worst case, its peers see it as a weirdo and make fun of it in elementary school and when it puts two and two together, it will consider itself male or female by 5th grade. In high school the fatties and uglies and shy will still be much worse off.

quoted for stupidity.

Quoted for consistent political and religious blindfolding of rational thought. Parents that beat their children excessively or turn them into fatties are setting up their children for failure far worse than the child in the op.

 

[Gibsons]

Storm? If it's a girl, she'll be a stripper.

 

[moshquerade]

I don't think that this is a big deal either. The kid will understand the relationship between sex and gender soon enough, and once it takes a gander at a human anatomy book it will figure out for itself. Worst case, its peers see it as a weirdo and make fun of it in elementary school and when it puts two and two together, it will consider itself male or female by 5th grade. In high school the fatties and uglies and shy will still be much worse off.



Quoted for consistent political and religious blindfolding of rational thought. Parents that beat their children excessively or turn them into fatties are setting up their children for failure far worse than the child in the op.

You forgot to praise him for the name calling.

 

[shortylickens]

society isn't telling the child what gender to be. the fact that the kid has a vagina or a penis, will grow breasts, or have nuts, is what is telling the kid whether it's male or female.

You gots to learn the difference between gender and sex.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

You forgot to praise him for the name calling.

EDIT: lol, somehow I missed his usage of "wise and beautiful woman". nvm then.

 

[moshquerade]

You gots to learn the difference between gender and sex.

i guess i'm gender confused too.

 

[moshquerade]

Where did he applaud the name "Storm"? The name will do more harm than the genderlessness, and I've heard many worse names.

no ding dong. where he called everyone a wise and beautiful woman.
but you knew that is what i was getting at.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Forum ninja.

 

[shortylickens]

i guess i'm gender confused too.

Gender is Masculine -> Androgynous -> Feminine.

Sex is Boy -> Girl -> Baily Jay.

 

[moshquerade]

Ninja edit. :shifty:

lol

*ding dong take back*

 

[xanis]

This is dumb. I don't really know what they're trying to do with this baby. It's not like gender identification is something that other people force on you.

Exactly. Had these parents stopped being pretentious dipshits for 5 seconds, they would have realized that the freedom and choice they talk about is there whether the kid decides for himself/herself or some stupid parents decide for them.

 

[TheVrolok]

Gender is Masculine -> Androgynous -> Feminine.

Sex is Boy -> Girl -> Baily Jay.

What's a 46,XY with Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome?

 

[yhelothar]

You guys are getting too worked up about this. Studies show that gender identity is more biological than something that's raised. There was a boy who's circumcision got fucked up, and they decided to give him a vagina and raised him as a girl. He had gender identity issues his whole life until his adulthood when his parents finally broke the news to him.