Palin: "US Should Re-Dictate God's Will"

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JEDIYoda

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Sarah Palin says US should rededicate itself to God





For those so uninformed, Billy Graham is no longer the leader of the association that bears his name. That responsibility now lies with his son, Franklin Graham.

Franklin is of course famous for his ongoing Islam “is a very evil and wicked religion” thing. for which he should be commended...since radical _slamics run islam.

Franklin started Samaritan's Purse, an organization close to where I live and one for which in the past I have done volunteer work (which I gave up primarily due to the proselytizing and fear-mongering).

The ex-Gov has her Billy Graham videos here.

Here we go again :rolleyes:

Next up for Palin? I'm guessing Buddy Christ ....

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edit: Sorry ... misspelled 'rededicate' in the title and can't figure out how to fix it ....

Looks like palins agenda is very clear -- POTUS 2012.....recruit the Evangelical Christian Right...lol
 

Dari

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Ahh but you're making a distinction that he fails to make, that's the difference.

violent Islam <> Islam.

Is there a difference? Is there anything wrong with there being no difference? Not everyone has the same morals, you know.
 

shira

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Looks like palins agenda is very clear -- POTUS 2012.....recruit the Evangelical Christian Right...lol

What I don't get is that - since Palin CLEARLY is right with God - why doesn't Palin simply pray that God MAKE her President?

God is into miracles, right? And praying to God is what gets miracles started. So Palin should just pray, and - POOF! - she'll be President.

This is SO obvious I'm surprised no one else has thought of it before.
 

PJABBER

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He did include Palin and rightly so.....
Her agenda is very evident.....
She is making a run for POTUS in 2012 and is actively courting the ebangelical christian vote which was fragmented during the last election!

1. This is an anti-religion and anti-Palin troll thread. Welcome, my friend, to another round!

2. Sure she has an agenda, don't you? I happen to not be exactly clear what HER agenda is, but yours is crystal.

3. Palin has not officially declared a run for ANY public office. When she does, she will be a candidate. I happen to think she is not going to make a run in 2010. She may be a candidate in 2012, by acclamation.

4. Believe me, she already has the evangelical vote. There is absolutely no fragmentation there. The Republicans nominating McCain disheartened the entire conservative base, Republican and Democrat, religious or not.

Remember, the economic crisis became an issue at the end of the election cycle. Panic ensued. If those news stories did not break just at that time, you would be complaining right about now how President McCain is not doing enough about global warming and Vice President Palin would be fixing the problems with Iran. ;-)

BTW, what ARE Obama and Biden DOING about Iran's nuclear weapons program?
 

Pens1566

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Maybe if she had prayed harder she would have found the strength to stick around as governor of Alaska????
 

dahunan

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Maybe if she had prayed harder she would have found the strength to stick around as governor of Alaska????


Face Whoring for cash is more her thing than following through with her commitments to the people of Alaska
 

Lemon law

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Why does anyone pay any attention to anything Sarah Palin says?

I recommend the mind over matter approach, if we do not pay any mind it does not matter what she says.
 

ayabe

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Is there a difference? Is there anything wrong with there being no difference? Not everyone has the same morals, you know.

Well I'd say most Christians probably don't agree with the murder of abortion providers, yet there are some who do. Same thing with Islam, and there must be a difference otherwise Christianity endorses murder in the exact same way.

And we can't have that....
 

sandorski

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....and that would be??

[Just guessing]
Jesus wants:
1) Tax Cuts
2) Republicans
3) No "liberals"
4) De-Regulation
5) Free Market Healthcare
6) An end to Entitlements
.....
 

ayabe

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4. Believe me, she already has the evangelical vote. There is absolutely no fragmentation there. The Republicans nominating McCain disheartened the entire conservative base, Republican and Democrat, religious or not.

That sort of cynicism didn't pay off last time....

Not all evangelicals are as stupid as you assume, identity politics will only carry someone so far.
 

exdeath

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This country was not founded on "god's will", it was founded on individual liberty and the will of the people.

Eg: Do whatever you want and stop bitching about other people doing whatever they want. They only concession is that PersonA is free to do what he wants so long as it does not interfere with PersonB doing what she wants. Eg: things like stealing, murder, etc.

Freedom of religion is also spelled out, that includes freedom of NO religion.

Just think that every time you mutter "there should be a law against that", simply out of dislike for what someone else is doing that isn't impeding *you* (such as someone else not wearing their own seat belt or smoking on private property) you are just as big a threat to liberty as anything any elected politician is.
 
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jonks

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Interesting that in the same post you ridicule a critic of violent Islam while spitting vitriol at Palin for a peaceful faith.

I know history books have big words n stuff but maybe you should read up on what has been done (and still is) in the name of christianity.
 

PJABBER

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....and that would be??

[Just guessing]
Jesus wants:
1) Tax Cuts
2) Republicans
3) No "liberals"
4) De-Regulation
5) Free Market Healthcare
6) An end to Entitlements
.....

If we had #3 the rest wouldn't require divine intervention.
 

Dari

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Well I'd say most Christians probably don't agree with the murder of abortion providers, yet there are some who do. Same thing with Islam, and there must be a difference otherwise Christianity endorses murder in the exact same way.

And we can't have that....

If you've ever read the Koran, at least chronologically (the latter preachings over-riding any earlier contradictions), you will know that Islam is extremely violent. What's sad is that most Americans don't realize this and fail to understand that it is every Muslim's duty to kill his enemy.
 

ayabe

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If you've ever read the Koran, at least chronologically (the latter preachings over-riding any earlier contradictions), you will know that Islam is extremely violent. What's sad is that most Americans don't realize this and fail to understand that it is every Muslim's duty to kill his enemy.

Sure and so is the old testament, it's nothing but fucking and killing for Yahweh, my god is bigger than your god, etc.

It's all the same thing, you just don't want your team labeled as such.
 

exdeath

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Sure and so is the old testament, it's nothing but fucking and killing for Yahweh, my god is bigger than your god, etc.

It's all the same thing, you just don't want your team labeled as such.

This.

My invisible man can kick your invisible man's butt!
 

Dari

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Sure and so is the old testament, it's nothing but fucking and killing for Yahweh, my god is bigger than your god, etc.

It's all the same thing, you just don't want your team labeled as such.

Well, we've evolved. Religion is no longer the primary source of our morality. Furthermore, even in the Old and New Testament, man did not have a slavish relationship with G-d like they do in the Koran.
 

jonks

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Well, we've evolved. Religion is no longer the primary source of our morality. Furthermore, even in the Old and New Testament, man did not have a slavish relationship with G-d like they do in the Koran.

Care to elaborate on that at all? I think ordering someone to kill their son to prove their obeyance is pretty high on the order of master/slave relationship. Opposition to gay marriage/rights is almost entirely religious in nature. Anti-abortion's most strenuous support comes from wholly religious groups.
 

Zebo

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Please there is no comparison between these. The God damn founder of islam personally Generaled over 30 massacres and took slaves and booty. And it continues from there.

Islam does have a componet of duality like Christainity but gets more violent after Mo's move to Medina not less like New testament with coming of Heysus.

So while it's true there is peace and love in Islam it's abrogated by later more violent, sexist and intolerant Suras.

I don't blame him - It's simply a natural protection mechanism Mo was living under and he chose to use violence to strike out and he codified it as coming from God and it's been that way ever since.

PS If I talked this way in Middle East I'd be dead inside of two seconds. Here I can talk all the crap I want about Heysus. That's the difference.
 
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Dari

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Care to elaborate on that at all? I think ordering someone to kill their son to prove their obeyance is pretty high on the order of master/slave relationship. Opposition to gay marriage/rights is almost entirely religious in nature. Anti-abortion's most strenuous support comes from wholly religious groups.

See, that's the thing. You can be selective in your pickings in order to prove your point that the Bible is violent. But I can be just as selective to show that it isn't. In Islam, where G-d is allowed to contradict himself in later passages, you don't get that. The fact that the latter, more violent passages take precedent over the former, earlier ones (kinda like how the Prophet, when he was weak and just starting out, spoke of fidelity but turned incredibly violent and savage as he became stronger) and every Muslim's obligation to carry them out shows that it is certainly not a religion of peace.
 

Red Dawn

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See, that's the thing. You can be selective in your pickings in order to prove your point that the Bible is violent. But I can be just as selective to show that it isn't. In Islam, where G-d is allowed to contradict himself in later passages, you don't get that. The fact that the latter, more violent passages take precedent over the former, earlier ones (kinda like how the Prophet, when he was weak and just starting out, spoke of fidelity but turned incredibly violent and savage as he became stronger) and every Muslim's obligation to carry them out shows that it is certainly not a religion of peace.
WTF is this G-d shit you talk about? Are you one of those nuts who are afraid to say GOD?
 

Zebo

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If you've ever read the Koran, at least chronologically (the latter preachings over-riding any earlier contradictions), you will know that Islam is extremely violent. What's sad is that most Americans don't realize this and fail to understand that it is every Muslim's duty to kill his enemy.
We have been programmed to think religions are a good thing and peaceful and most Americans are ignorant of Muslim conquests. Especially because it happened to brown people like Indians, Africans, etc which they don't care about in our history books.