What do you mean "WHAT IF"? It happened in the last two elections... hint - they weren't Bush supporters.
Stop being obese in your skull. If you're NOT suggesting that Obama, at age 8, had anything to do with Bill Ayers or the Weather Underground, then get over yourself. There's no there there.
When Obama finally encountered Ayres, he was a respected university professor. Their association is universally described as casual, at most. Ayers hosted an event for Obama when he first ran for state Senate, and they served together on an educational charity board. Furthermore, Obama has catigorically denounced the radical activities of the Weather Underground.
Do you expect him to hop in the old WayBack Machine and go back to undo whatever Ayers did when Obama was eight years old? :roll:
AH-HAH! So now, it's OJ's fault. Oh well... That's about as rational as the rest of your bullshit. Buahahahaha!!!! :laugh:
And if the actual majority of voters had determined who was elected President, your Traitor In Chief and his criminal cabal would never have murdered 4,177 American troops in a war of LIES or dismantled all control and oversight of our failing financial institutions... You know... the same stupidity your lyinig jackass wannabe Bush clone, John McCain, says he wants to continue, and you wouldn't be spewing all the irrelevant crap you're pimping in this thread. :thumbsdown:
OrByte
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I am well aware that it takes 2 to fight thank you.
Unless you mean dems were fighting dems!! :shocked:
My point was, I don't think I have ever seen a Presidential Candidate and Vice Presidential candidate take the rhetoric to these extremes.
Saying your opponent is paling around with terrorists is so over the top. And more importantly people have these very visceral reactions to such inflammatory language...This red meat that McCain and Palin are tossing out to their supporters wil do nothing to aide in any bipartisan efforts in Washington.
Prove that, or STFU!
Thanks, man! You've convinced me not to vote for Bruce Springsteen for President... at least this year. :laugh:
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
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You people keep coming up with fists full of straw.... you'd think you'd learn by now.
You see, this isn't about McCain vs BHO as to character so it matters exactly ZERO that you posted something about McCain. It's especially hilarious that you people still try to respond that way when it's clearly established here that I'm not voting for nor supporting McCain.
But hey... keep up with the duhversions.... F'n apologists...
When all you have to offer is less than NOTHING, what you call straw is a fortune you couldn't comprehend.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Buahahahahahahaaaa!!!!!!:laugh:
respected by far left nutjobs maybe but anyone who is unrepentant about their reign of terror like him should not be respected.
Has anyone stopped to ask themselves, "If this Ayers guy is such a nasty terrorist, why hasn't the FBI or DHS or someone arrested him by now?"
This appears to be a failure of the highest order for our law enforcement and homeland security departments to just let this guy go free. WTF?
As for him and Obama being "pals" or "friends" or anything of the like is a HUGE stretch. I'd say at best, you could say they were acquaintances. And that's being generous. So generous in fact, I'm really just humoring Cad and throwing him a bone.
This appears to be a failure of the highest order for our law enforcement and homeland security departments to just let this guy go free. WTF?
As for him and Obama being "pals" or "friends" or anything of the like is a HUGE stretch. I'd say at best, you could say they were acquaintances. And that's being generous. So generous in fact, I'm really just humoring Cad and throwing him a bone.
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What's funny is that these nuts still can't see that politicians, who work with/meet tens of thousands of people throughout their lifetime, can't possibly know about something a person they worked with did 30 years earlier unless they perform background checks on every single person they meet. For crying out loud, the FBI takes 6-12 months to do background checks on the people they hire, and the FBI employs about 40,000, yet we're supposed to expect politicians to do so?
Though in the end, the Keating stuff looks a lot worse with the current recession in tow.
Though in the end, the Keating stuff looks a lot worse with the current recession in tow.
You can keep regurgitating the same empty fluff and name calling, but it doesn't make it any more true or relevant. :roll:
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Except you haven't read the thread. I've stated that both sides have little to stand on due to it not being looked into by non-right-wing people.
There are just too many coincidences to blow it all off, but not enough information to say exactly what the whole story is.
You and your lying neocon buddies are the ones trying to assert that Obama is a terrorist, either directly or by some deep, heavy nefarious association with a man with whom his only connection was through an organization dedicated to improving schools.
Thanks for admitting you're running on empty and pissing into the wind. If YOU have "little to stand on" and "not enough information to say exactly what the whole story is," you're only embarrassing yourself. Either go find some real proof to support your bogus accusations, or STFU.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Did the Wasilla library have Nineteen Eighty-Four?, Palin must have checked it out and used it as a playbook.
The F-Word...
So, are we allowed to call them fascists, yet? The American reactionary movement (aka, Todays GOP) has had love affairs with dictatorships abroad, euphemistically termed "ultra-nationalist," "archconservative," and the like - and it's just not a stretch to note that they are pursuing time-tested fascistic tactics at home.
We're not yet to the point of physical violence on the streets, but the GOP's voter suppression drives are one jackbooted step short of over physical violence. I've been waiting for the McCain campaign to finally just embrace the bottom of the barrel and run an ad that simply asks, "Do you really want a ni**er to be your president?"
I don't know if our politics will ever go back to "normal" in this country again, Regardless of an Obama win in the fall - so long as the current configuration of the GOP holds sway, The moderates in the GOP have left the party, or have been kicked out - leaving only the reactionaries to fill out the ranks.
The F-Word...
So, are we allowed to call them fascists, yet? The American reactionary movement (aka, Todays GOP) has had love affairs with dictatorships abroad, euphemistically termed "ultra-nationalist," "archconservative," and the like - and it's just not a stretch to note that they are pursuing time-tested fascistic tactics at home.
We're not yet to the point of physical violence on the streets, but the GOP's voter suppression drives are one jackbooted step short of over physical violence. I've been waiting for the McCain campaign to finally just embrace the bottom of the barrel and run an ad that simply asks, "Do you really want a ni**er to be your president?"
I don't know if our politics will ever go back to "normal" in this country again, Regardless of an Obama win in the fall - so long as the current configuration of the GOP holds sway, The moderates in the GOP have left the party, or have been kicked out - leaving only the reactionaries to fill out the ranks.
And what do you suppose the non-right-wing folks will find? About the most I could even imagine is that they were both active in politics in the same neighborhood of Chicago and thus they had some level of contact. Pretty much what we already know. Seems like Bill Ayers, while not apologetic, seems to have reformed. So I don't know ... what else could we learn here?
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Isn't that the point that I've stated? We don't know what else there there is because some people(the media) with the "casual" bit. They haven't looked into it further. What about the Annenburg items? What about Dorhn and Michelle? There are WAY too many unexplored pieces and too many coincidences to just dismiss this.
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So lets hypothetically say in my checkered past young and foolish days, I vandalized my local army recruiters office. And I got caught, got convicted for my crime, served my sentence in jail, hopefully wised up and realized my actions were foolish, and went on to make some positive contributions to society in other areas.
And even if my conviction as a felon may or may not strip my future right to vote, what this thread seems to imply is that would I no longer have any ability to make the world better in other areas. Even if those areas have nothing to do with terrorism or illegal activities.
Yes yes, send me to gitmo, lock me up forever for the crime of ideals.
Burt cheer up all you righty tighties who read this post, I have now infected you in the same way Ayres infected Obama. You can take your wrath out on me when we all report to gitmo.
And even if my conviction as a felon may or may not strip my future right to vote, what this thread seems to imply is that would I no longer have any ability to make the world better in other areas. Even if those areas have nothing to do with terrorism or illegal activities.
Yes yes, send me to gitmo, lock me up forever for the crime of ideals.
Burt cheer up all you righty tighties who read this post, I have now infected you in the same way Ayres infected Obama. You can take your wrath out on me when we all report to gitmo.
No. I've never stated anything remotely close to that.[/quote]
Then what's your point in continuing to bump this useless topic? Are your neocon overlords paying you overtime to continue puffing up this meaningless fluff, or is this your own personal jackoff? :roll:
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
"hopefully wised up and realized my actions were foolish" - if you are trying to draw a parallel to Ayers then I think the bolded is out of place.
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