PAINKILLER is in the Bargain Bin!

[Fern]

OK, if anybody's interested. HERE'S another fix.EDIT: I did not find this helpful. Unable to read the PAK files (looks like jibberish) and coundn't find a proogie to assist. See fix below

Ok, here are the the changes in detail:


The crash in C5L1 (in Templates/Monsters/Skull/Skull.lua) is caused by accessing an object-member that no longer exists in PK 1.5 - searching the other Monster-LScripts revealed the same command, commented out and replaced with a similar one.
For reference, the exact change is:

OLD: h.s_SubCl***.Sounds.death = nil
NEW: h._disableDeathSounds = true

Looks like a simply oversight while porting the old scripts to 1.5.

 

[Fern]

Found a patch for the d/l to fix the city of water bug. get it HERE, about 2 posts down. Gonna try it tonight.

Am I the only one here with this seemimgly "common" problem?

EDIT: The above fix didn't work for me. To fix version 1.5 (for those who bought the game package which includes both PK and BoOH, which is version 1.5) go HERE and click on link to http://www.shuto.ch/users/adre/aGe/...fix. It is said the mega patch 1.61 also fixes this but cannot confirm Atm

Fern

NOTE: the www.shuto link above doesn't work, Fusetalk won't let me input it correctly, so you gotta go to the site I linked.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: CPA
A little offtopic, but has anyone else experience horrible stuttering during the cutscenes in PK. I have an AMD64 3500 and 6800OC card and the stuttering in the cutscenes is the worse I've ever seen. The game, otherwise, plays great, even with settings up high.

Hasn't happened to me. Which cutscene? All?

Other the C.O.W bug, my only problem was sound stuttering when defeating the boss at end of level 4. Alaster or something.

Fern

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: CPA
A little offtopic, but has anyone else experience horrible stuttering during the cutscenes in PK. I have an AMD64 3500 and 6800OC card and the stuttering in the cutscenes is the worse I've ever seen. The game, otherwise, plays great, even with settings up high.

the BOoH readme says you need 256MB Vram to play everything on 'hi'
(believe-it-or-not my 9800xt manages it all on Hi and Max but only at 10x7 for BOoH and 11x8 for the original PK (v1.35)

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Fern
Found a patch for the d/l to fix the city of water bug. get it HERE, about 2 posts down. Gonna try it tonight.

Am I the only one here with this seemimgly "common" problem?

Howdy Craig . . . . your "problem" i think is with v1.5 . . . . everyone else is using 1.35 or 1.61.

And i finished PK (23 of the 24 black cards). . . Twice!

i just don't have the [whatever] to finish it thru on "Trauma" (no souls, no demon-morph, no quicksaves, no cheats)
:roll:

. . . . especially cause i am having a blast with BOoH (except blowing up children-demons is kinda disturbing)




edit - to answer Fern, "Ultra" was enabled by default for my system (p4@3.3Ghz/9800xt/1GB pc3500) . . . . clearly not SM 3.0 - and it DOES look better than 1.35 (the original)

i wonder what v1.61 does for BOoH?

 

[Fern]

OK

I'm getting annoyed. The guy's patch didn't work, and I can't read the damn data file in PK. So no way to edit it. I tried opening it with word pad. Jibberish.

Alright. I'm d/l'ing patch 1.61 EDIT: See above post for fix for version 1.5. Was unable to test patch 1.61 last night due to ungodly long d/l time even with BB

Fern

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Fern
OK

I'm getting annoyed. The guy's patch didn't work, and I can't read the damn data file in PK. So no way to edit it. I tried opening it with word pad. Jibberish.

Alright. I'm d/l'ing patch 1.61

TRY it! . . . . here's a quote from the version 1.61 readme:

- FIX: Script error in City on the water (Skulls and ****bikers).

please let us know what happens . . . . . it SHOULD work - good luck!

BTW, where'd you find v1.5?

I could only find v1.35 and 1.61.
(i guess that's why 1.5 is hard to find)

be WARNED . . . . IF you install v1.61 before you install BOoH, you might have "issues" . . . . read some member comments above

i haven't bothered with v1.61 . . . . . just playing the XP.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: apoppin

BTW, where'd you find v1.5?

I could only find v1.35 and 1.61.
(i guess that's why 1.5 is hard to find)

be WARNED . . . . IF you install v1.61 before you install BOoH, you might have "issues" . . . . read some member comments above

i haven't bothered with v1.61 . . . . . just playing the XP.

If you purchase the "deluxe" version or whatever it's called, which includes both the original PK and BOoh- you get version 1.5. The "fix" is linked above. I tried to d/l patch 1.61, but took too long. The fix I linked above fits on a floppy and can be done very quickly as opposed to patch 1.61.

I'll get around to the big patch, but prolly not until I finish PK, I'll use the patch on BOoH. Everythings sweet right now, don't wanna risk another patch ATM (losing saved games etc.)


Fern

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: apoppin

BTW, where'd you find v1.5?

I could only find v1.35 and 1.61.
(i guess that's why 1.5 is hard to find)

be WARNED . . . . IF you install v1.61 before you install BOoH, you might have "issues" . . . . read some member comments above

i haven't bothered with v1.61 . . . . . just playing the XP.

If you purchase the "deluxe" version or whatever it's called, which includes both the original PK and BOoh- you get version 1.5. The "fix" is linked above. I tried to d/l patch 1.61, but took too long. The fix I linked above fits on a floppy and can be done very quickly as opposed to patch 1.61.

I'll get around to the big patch, but prolly not until I finish PK, I'll use the patch on BOoH. Everythings sweet right now, don't wanna risk another patch ATM (losing saved games etc.)


Fern

So did the "fix" work? it seemed there were "issues" with saving games after according to that forum link you posted.

anyway, i get it now




clearly you can install 1.61 AFTER PK and BOoH are BOTH installed (probably) without issues . . . that is the only patch available from DreamCatcher.

i would - but i am having no problems with BOoH and it would take me 2-3 overnights on dial-up to get the 334 MB patch.
:shocked:

 

[BFG10K]

How does SM 3.0 and the improved GFX "look" compred to the original?

No change as far as I can see but the extra performance is nice.

be WARNED . . . . IF you install v1.61 before you install BOoH, you might have "issues"

Just install the patch again after you install the expansion.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

How does SM 3.0 and the improved GFX "look" compred to the original?

No change as far as I can see but the extra performance is nice.

be WARNED . . . . IF you install v1.61 before you install BOoH, you might have "issues"

Just install the patch again after you install the expansion.

you are correct about the patch (i figured it out for myself - eventually - that v1.61 would update both PK and BOoH
. . . . and i am d/l'ing it (63.22MB of 338.78MB so far - 18% over last night).

i DO have "issues" with BOoH - the game doesn't save correctly anymore beginning with Dead City - only TWO checkpoints saved correctly and NO Quicksaves or "esc - new saves" . . . . i was the one complaining about the lack of auto-saves and had to play the entire level without.
(oh, the irony)
:roll:

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: apoppin

BTW, where'd you find v1.5?

I could only find v1.35 and 1.61.
(i guess that's why 1.5 is hard to find)

be WARNED . . . . IF you install v1.61 before you install BOoH, you might have "issues" . . . . read some member comments above

i haven't bothered with v1.61 . . . . . just playing the XP.

If you purchase the "deluxe" version or whatever it's called, which includes both the original PK and BOoh- you get version 1.5. The "fix" is linked above. I tried to d/l patch 1.61, but took too long. The fix I linked above fits on a floppy and can be done very quickly as opposed to patch 1.61.

I'll get around to the big patch, but prolly not until I finish PK, I'll use the patch on BOoH. Everythings sweet right now, don't wanna risk another patch ATM (losing saved games etc.)


Fern

So did the "fix" work? it seemed there were "issues" with saving games after according to that forum link you posted.

anyway, i get it now




clearly you can install 1.61 AFTER PK and BOoH are BOTH installed (probably) without issues . . . that is the only patch available from DreamCatcher.

i would - but i am having no problems with BOoH and it would take me 2-3 overnights on dial-up to get the 334 MB patch.
:shocked:

That patch worked great, no save probs or any other.

I finished PK last night. Anybody else think that their version of hell seemed like something from Salvidor Dali (the surrealist painter)? Nice break from the red "fire and lava" thing like D3

Mark, I can only assume that you have NOT installed BOoH yet. When you do, you'll either need the patch I linked or 1.61. AFAIK, there is no way around it. Seems 100% chance of crashing at Chapter 5, level 1. It has nothing to do with drivers/hardware etc. It simply a coding error

I've got patch 1.61 burned to disk now, but am trying decide whether to install or just keep playing. Have read of reports over at the other forum of peeps having probs.

Don't know if "I wanna fix till it's broke", or just keep playing

Fern

 

[NicColt]

Ok you'v all tempted me... I just called my local EB and they put it and the exapnsion aside for me and I'll pick it up after work. $20 Cdn each not bad.

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and Enermax Adj. Fan in front and Vantec Fan controller.
Antec True-Blue 480 Watt PSU
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LG CD-RW GCE-8320B 24x10x40
Monitor HP P1110 Trinitron FD
Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro with Megaworks 550's

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: apoppin

BTW, where'd you find v1.5?

I could only find v1.35 and 1.61.
(i guess that's why 1.5 is hard to find)

be WARNED . . . . IF you install v1.61 before you install BOoH, you might have "issues" . . . . read some member comments above

i haven't bothered with v1.61 . . . . . just playing the XP.

If you purchase the "deluxe" version or whatever it's called, which includes both the original PK and BOoh- you get version 1.5. The "fix" is linked above. I tried to d/l patch 1.61, but took too long. The fix I linked above fits on a floppy and can be done very quickly as opposed to patch 1.61.

I'll get around to the big patch, but prolly not until I finish PK, I'll use the patch on BOoH. Everythings sweet right now, don't wanna risk another patch ATM (losing saved games etc.)


Fern

So did the "fix" work? it seemed there were "issues" with saving games after according to that forum link you posted.

anyway, i get it now




clearly you can install 1.61 AFTER PK and BOoH are BOTH installed (probably) without issues . . . that is the only patch available from DreamCatcher.

i would - but i am having no problems with BOoH and it would take me 2-3 overnights on dial-up to get the 334 MB patch.
:shocked:

That patch worked great, no save probs or any other.

I finished PK last night. Anybody else think that their version of hell seemed like something from Salvidor Dali (the surrealist painter)? Nice break from the red "fire and lava" thing like D3

Mark, I can only assume that you have NOT installed BOoH yet. When you do, you'll either need the patch I linked or 1.61. AFAIK, there is no way around it. Seems 100% chance of crashing at Chapter 5, level 1. It has nothing to do with drivers/hardware etc. It simply a coding error

I've got patch 1.61 burned to disk now, but am trying decide whether to install or just keep playing. Have read of reports over at the other forum of peeps having probs.

Don't know if "I wanna fix till it's broke", or just keep playing

Fern

Yep, hell was awesome . . .
(unlike that idiot game)

No, no, no . . . i completed PK already . . . . i'm on the THIRD play-thru ("trauma") to get the 24th card AND i am already on Level 6 (Leningrad) OF BoOH.

i only used patch 1.35 on PK and did not experience the glitch you had with v1.50.

right now, i am d/l'ing v1.61 (389MB) but won't have it completed till Saturday.
(dialup)
:roll:

in the meantime, i am stuck with saving issues. i also got to look at engle's walkthrough and there are several glitches that (hopefully) are addressed by 1.61.

 

[Fern]

Mark I'm guessing your playing BOoh, version 1.5. Seems if you install Booh, it will update PK to 1.5 too.

I'm not having any saving probs in Booh. Must be the patch I needed for PK (to get past the coding error in PK Ch. 5 L.1). It did say it was for issues in both PK and Booh.

That patch can be d/l'd quickly into a floppy (so its a small file). I'm thinking it would take care of your save prob in booh until the 1.61 d/l completed.


Booh is wierd, in a fun way so far. Fragging little school kids was bit creepy. Exploding Kids wrapped up brown paper meant for use by butcher shops, sick man.

Next level, Looney Park - ice cream cones with nails? Fragging clowns (well, I don't like clowns anyway). Really got a kick out of the "ride" part. Seems like a giant roller coaster where you zoom along shooting clowns/corn monsters - I used a shootgun and it felt shooting skeet, but in reverse. I was the skeet flying by shooting at stuff.

Next level, Labs - played it for only 5 min. Sniping guys in some kind of Halo looking space suits.

Hmmm.. These levels are really varied.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Fern
Mark I'm guessing your playing BOoh, version 1.5. Seems if you install Booh, it will update PK to 1.5 too.

I'm not having any saving probs in Booh. Must be the patch I needed for PK (to get past the coding error in PK Ch. 5 L.1). It did say it was for issues in both PK and Booh.

That patch can be d/l'd quickly into a floppy (so its a small file). I'm thinking it would take care of your save prob in booh until the 1.61 d/l completed.


Booh is wierd, in a fun way so far. Fragging little school kids was bit creepy. Exploding Kids wrapped up brown paper meant for use by butcher shops, sick man.

Next level, Looney Park - ice cream cones with nails? Fragging clowns (well, I don't like clowns anyway). Really got a kick out of the "ride" part. Seems like a giant roller coaster where you zoom along shooting clowns/corn monsters - I used a shootgun and it felt shooting skeet, but in reverse. I was the skeet flying by shooting at stuff.

Next level, Labs - played it for only 5 min. Sniping guys in some kind of Halo looking space suits.

Hmmm.. These levels are really varied.

2/3rds done with the d/l.

Should be patched by tomorrow . . . anyway . . . . you're right - i'm on v1.5 . . . no doubt if i went back to PK, i'd have that same weird glitch.

it was only after the Lab that i got save issues through one entire level . . . In Leningrad, there is some saving working again - but not quicksaves and the saved games list is somewhat jumbled (but functional) . . . . .

i HATED the orphanage . . . too gross with all the instruments for torturing children and then having to blow them away. Loony Park with the clowns is much more fun (clowns suck - frag 'em) and the roller coaster was quite a ride. . . . as in the original, it just keeps on getting better and more varied as you progress.

:thumbsup:

 

[apoppin]

OK, 20 hours on Dial-up to D/L v1.61 in an effort to fix the "save" issue.

Patch installed . . .

and ALL my saved games DELETED. :Q

now that's a "fix"
:|

Anyway, it's isn't all that bad since some of my "auto saves" - 1 per level - are still OK . . .

BUT it STILL won't save correctly . . . i only get ONE save per level (my choice)
:roll:

i guess i will have to go back to the beginning of where this crap started and the last legitimate autosave still in memory - DEAD CITY - and try to go on from there . . . maybe in "pkgod" mode to save time.

 

[Fern]

Hey Mark are you getting new/additional video options and features with patch 1.61?

ATM, saves are OK, but I'm getting some FPS slowdowns and actual got kicked back to desktop once or twice. I'm still on version 1.5 updated with that little patch I linked above

Heh, regarding the Secret Lab level in Booh- the effects of the Havok Physics Engine on the "fleshy parts" of those nurses is interesting

 

[NicColt]

Ok the secrets are really gettting to me, I spend lots of time trying to figure them out and I can't seem to get to some of the secrets. Here's one of them in Catacoms Link to pic now I've lingered over this one for a while but how in the world do you get this one.

i'm on the THIRD play-thru ("trauma") to get the 24th card

is this only for the BOOH or is there a 24th card in the original ?

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: NicColt
Ok the secrets are really gettting to me, I spend lots of time trying to figure them out and I can't seem to get to some of the secrets. Here's one of them in Catacoms Link to pic now I've lingered over this one for a while but how in the world do you get this one.

i'm on the THIRD play-thru ("trauma") to get the 24th card

is this only for the BOOH or is there a 24th card in the original ?

there is a 24th card in PK you get after you unlock Forest level which can only be played on "trauma"

See engel's walkthrough for both PK & BOoH . . . infact, they link to VIDEOs of all of the secrets and how to get them (some of them are VERY hard).
Now that my "saved" games are screwed, i may never complete PK (completely)

Originally posted by: Fern
Hey Mark are you getting new/additional video options and features with patch 1.61?

ATM, saves are OK, but I'm getting some FPS slowdowns and actual got kicked back to desktop once or twice. I'm still on version 1.5 updated with that little patch I linked above

Heh, regarding the Secret Lab level in Booh- the effects of the Havok Physics Engine on the "fleshy parts" of those nurses is interesting

Yes, patch 1.61 updated PK as well as BOoH (all my saves in both games are screwed).

When you upgrade from 1.35 to 1.61 (and probably 1.5) the GFX becomes more demanding - i had to drop from 11x8 down to 10x7 to get fluid FPS (but better gfx and higher settings)

gotta love that Havok.

 

[apoppin]

well i just finished BOoH; any other secret endings?

Alastor was one of the most "beautiful" and "awe-inspiring" Bosses + graphically endings to a game (MUCH better than Diii's cyber-demon) but unfortunately just about as easy (if you had most of the Black Tarot Cards like i did) . . . . 2nd try just over 4 minutes (killed him but failed on the unlock) and the 3rd about 2-1/2 minutes to get the 2nd last card.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER SECRET ENDINGS?

My saves STILL won't work but i did get a "working start" to the orphanage with levels unlocked so if i can start over in Nightmare to play the last - Pentagon Boss - i will . . . it's a PITA to have only one working save per level (quick OR auto) that overwrites previous ones.
:roll:

Overall it is a "fun" game but i have had enough of it by now . . . . now to finish SW: JKII - JO.

:thumbsup:

7.5/10 overall for the PK/BOoH

edit: the glitches and frustration gave it a lower score . . . . even after REsigning the Pact still won't save correctly anymore . . . . i am DONE!

(but won't get to see everything)

:roll:

 

[Appledrop]

i dled the painkiller demo the other day, only two levels but its still a very fun game + no campers!

 

[VTrider]

Just in case anybody is suffering from that 'no save' bug, here is what I did to fix it:

Seems that evertime you hit F5 PK makes a folder in the 'savegames' folder, when there are 1,000 folders it stops saving more. I just deleted a few hundred old ones from previous levels and now I can use the F5 quick-save again.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: VTrider
Just in case anybody is suffering from that 'no save' bug, here is what I did to fix it:

Seems that evertime you hit F5 PK makes a folder in the 'savegames' folder, when there are 1,000 folders it stops saving more. I just deleted a few hundred old ones from previous levels and now I can use the F5 quick-save again.

i was just gonna post this (i have been rummaging around in program files seeking to save my "save games" and uninstall and reinstall PK and of course, now i don't have to - just delete old folders)

although the Game does NOT LIST them, they are in Dream Catcher "Save Game" in program files and yes, i DO have 1001 files.
:roll:

 

[Fern]

Mark (and others with 1.61 save probs)

I'm about done with BooH (version 1.5), when I finish I'm gonna install patch 1.61. In anticipation of probs I have copied my saved games to a new folder. If patch 1.61 blows out my saved games, will I be able to copying them back over to the PK folder and use them? Or, does 1.61 render your old saved games useless?

I really enjoyed Lenigrad, although I found it quite difficult. I'm amazed at the variation in levels. leningrad required me to replay and forced me to develope different tactics.

I'm NOT using any cards, the only boss I found easy to beat was in the collusium. My son suggested shooting out the fires and afterward he went down easily to the painkiller. Like a frog in a blender. That level was too easy (it and the cemetary I personally could do without). Just fire up the weedwacker and have a go!

After this, I'm going back to finish DE:IW or replay Far Cry. Unless I snag a copy of Riddick or KoTOR 2.

I'm not slick enough to give PK a numbered score, but for anybody who like FPS's I would recommend this game. I'll look forward to replaying this, especially my favorite levels. If my old saves won't work, I'll just get the "warp" hack so I can play what I want. With the warp hack, this become a collections of many games - just play those chapters one really likes

Fern