Pacific Fighters VTF follow up

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Rollo
I'll tell you what- as some seem inexplicably interested in this game,

you start a giant flamewar thread about it calling out ATi and now you're claiming that others are inexeplicably interested in the game?!?

 

[rbV5]

Boy, I didn't see this coming:roll:

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: rbV5
Boy, I didn't see this coming:roll:

Pffft.

Roll your eyes all you like, last I checked I had no responsibility to benchmark anything.

As "luck" would have it, I'm relatively free this weekend. (damn warm weather has hosed my ice fishing for the foreseeable future :| )

I have FRAPs installed on that machine, so I'll give it a try.

As you guys seem most concerned about the effect of having the water at various settings, would just running it at 16X12 or 19X14 High Quality 0X0X water level 1,2,3 with all in game settings at maximum be what you're after?

Speak now, because it's doubtful this game will see anything but the darkness of a drawer after this.

 

[John Reynolds]

Use the F4F vs. G4M track. . .lots of water. I would just run it at 10x7 or 12x10 without AA/AF and edit the water line in the .ini file per run-through. The full track lasts just shy of 4 minutes, but you can end the Fraps recording at 2 minutes if you want to make the testing go quicker.

 

[rbV5]

Pffft.

Roll your eyes all you like, last I checked I had no responsibility to benchmark anything.

Never said you did. Running a couple benchmarks will take far less time than the numerous posts, and multiple threads you've made on this "issue". Looks like you lost interest recently for some reason is all.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: rbV5

Pffft.

Roll your eyes all you like, last I checked I had no responsibility to benchmark anything.

Never said you did. Running a couple benchmarks will take far less time than the numerous posts, and multiple threads you've made on this "issue". Looks like you lost interest recently for some reason is all.

You need the "reason"? . . . read on:

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Rollo
I'll tell you what- as some seem inexplicably interested in this game,

you start a giant flamewar thread about it calling out ATi and now you're claiming that others are inexeplicably interested in the game?!?

X1800 lack of vertex texturing kills Pacific Fighters performance/Maybe not "SM3 done right"?

Vertex texture fetch and the R520

this is Rollo's "follow up"
:roll:

i guess ATI got SM3.0 right
:Q

😀

PS . . . anybody want this game? . . . Rollo's selling his disappointment for $5 shipped
:laugh:

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: rbV5

Pffft.

Roll your eyes all you like, last I checked I had no responsibility to benchmark anything.

Never said you did. Running a couple benchmarks will take far less time than the numerous posts, and multiple threads you've made on this "issue". Looks like you lost interest recently for some reason is all.

You need the "reason"? . . . read on:

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Rollo
I'll tell you what- as some seem inexplicably interested in this game,

you start a giant flamewar thread about it calling out ATi and now you're claiming that others are inexeplicably interested in the game?!?

X1800 lack of vertex texturing kills Pacific Fighters performance/Maybe not "SM3 done right"?

Vertex texture fetch and the R520

this is Rollo's "follow up"
:roll:

i guess ATI got SM3.0 right
:Q

😀

PS . . . anybody want this game? . . . Rollo's selling his disappointment for $5 shipped
:laugh:

Here is the reason I'm not touching this game again, except the 3 seconds it was in my hand to throw it under the shelf.

Maybe Apoppin can bench for you guys on his X850.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: rbV5

Pffft.

Roll your eyes all you like, last I checked I had no responsibility to benchmark anything.

Never said you did. Running a couple benchmarks will take far less time than the numerous posts, and multiple threads you've made on this "issue". Looks like you lost interest recently for some reason is all.

You need the "reason"? . . . read on:

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Rollo
I'll tell you what- as some seem inexplicably interested in this game,

you start a giant flamewar thread about it calling out ATi and now you're claiming that others are inexeplicably interested in the game?!?

X1800 lack of vertex texturing kills Pacific Fighters performance/Maybe not "SM3 done right"?

Vertex texture fetch and the R520

this is Rollo's "follow up"
:roll:

i guess ATI got SM3.0 right
:Q

😀

PS . . . anybody want this game? . . . Rollo's selling his disappointment for $5 shipped
:laugh:

Here is the reason I'm not touching this game again, except the 3 seconds it was in my hand to throw it under the shelf.

Maybe Apoppin can bench for you guys on his X850.

you wanna send it to me?

i'll throw a 5 spot in an envelope to you 😉
[not that anyone cares what it looks like on an x850xt]

and what was "the reason" again, Rollo?
:roll:

ATi SM3.0 done right? 😛
:Q

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: rbV5

Pffft.

Roll your eyes all you like, last I checked I had no responsibility to benchmark anything.

Never said you did. Running a couple benchmarks will take far less time than the numerous posts, and multiple threads you've made on this "issue". Looks like you lost interest recently for some reason is all.

You need the "reason"? . . . read on:

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Rollo
I'll tell you what- as some seem inexplicably interested in this game,

you start a giant flamewar thread about it calling out ATi and now you're claiming that others are inexeplicably interested in the game?!?

X1800 lack of vertex texturing kills Pacific Fighters performance/Maybe not "SM3 done right"?

Vertex texture fetch and the R520

this is Rollo's "follow up"
:roll:

i guess ATI got SM3.0 right
:Q

😀

PS . . . anybody want this game? . . . Rollo's selling his disappointment for $5 shipped
:laugh:

Here is the reason I'm not touching this game again, except the 3 seconds it was in my hand to throw it under the shelf.

Maybe Apoppin can bench for you guys on his X850.

Are you Serious, Rollo?
:Q

you are using ME as an EXCUSE to NOT bench PF? :Q
😕

After you set YOURSELF up as a bigger TARGET than the GoodYear blimp by spreading FUD about ATi's "lack" of VTF by starting SEVERAL threads?

give me a freakin' break
:roll:

OK, i have a challenge for you if you will stick to your word and what you posted:

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Pete
Hail Mary weekend bump. Help us Rollo, you're our only hope--or at least the only guy in all of Video with a GF6/7 and PF.

Last plea, honest.

Could I just give the game to someone that cares about this? PayPal me $5 for shipping via UPS and it's yours?

i'll send you $5 for the game [no paypal], bench it on my x850xt@PE [someone guide me please] and then SEND [at my expense] it to someone with a similar setup to yours to bench and post the results here. . . .

Are you up for it . . . or do you just prefer to start FUD?

edited [finally]

 

[Matt2]

Guys, guys, guys... please...

Let's just all get along.

apoppin- take the bullseye off Rollo's back!

Rollo- $5 and I'll bench it to death for these guys.

 

[nRollo]

My apologies to the board.

I was going to do this as a favor to the board, as I have no desire to start that game again.

If asshats are going to make obnoxious posts to me when I'm willing to do the board a favor, I am no longer willing to do the board a favor.

I don't work for asshats IRL, or online.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Matt2
Guys, guys, guys... please...

Let's just all get along.

apoppin- take the bullseye off Rollo's back!

Rollo- $5 and I'll bench it to death for these guys.

that all i wanted . . . thanks Matt2
😎

i just offered to bench with ATi's top old card with SM 2.0b. 😉
[and cover the expense . . . offers still open] 😉

"i' didn't apply the bullseye . . . Rollo did with his three FUD threads about ATi's supposed 'lack' of VTF causing slow performance in PF . . . he just did't "feel like" following up.

 

[Wreckage]

If Matt2 does not take it. I'll bench it on a 6800. Although I would rather see it on a 7800SLI

 

[Matt2]

Originally posted by: Wreckage
If Matt2 does not take it. I'll bench it on a 6800. Although I would rather see it on a 7800SLI

I jsut sent Rollo my lunch money for today. 🙁

I'll gladly hand it off to you if I dont like it though!

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: Matt2

Originally posted by: Wreckage
If Matt2 does not take it. I'll bench it on a 6800. Although I would rather see it on a 7800SLI

I jsut sent Rollo my lunch money for today. 🙁

I'll gladly hand it off to you if I dont like it though!

Sounds good. I really am just interested in the whole VTF thing. Should work on my antique 6800. Although at a lower resolution.

 

[Rogodin2]

I just put PF on our server here at the cafe and I'll bench it.

I've been playing Oleg's flight sims for years now so I'm familiar with the benchmark techniques.

System is:

Connect3d X850 GTO AGP flavor
AMD 3200+ socket 754
Gigabyte mainboard
2 gigs of corsair 3200 DDR
200gig Maxtor Sata
Onboard sound though

You PF guys should check out screenshotart.com

Rogo

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: rbV5

Pffft.

Roll your eyes all you like, last I checked I had no responsibility to benchmark anything.

Never said you did. Running a couple benchmarks will take far less time than the numerous posts, and multiple threads you've made on this "issue". Looks like you lost interest recently for some reason is all.

You need the "reason"? . . . read on:

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Rollo
I'll tell you what- as some seem inexplicably interested in this game,

you start a giant flamewar thread about it calling out ATi and now you're claiming that others are inexeplicably interested in the game?!?

X1800 lack of vertex texturing kills Pacific Fighters performance/Maybe not "SM3 done right"?

Vertex texture fetch and the R520

this is Rollo's "follow up"
:roll:

i guess ATI got SM3.0 right
:Q

😀

PS . . . anybody want this game? . . . Rollo's selling his disappointment for $5 shipped
:laugh:

Here is the reason I'm not touching this game again, except the 3 seconds it was in my hand to throw it under the shelf.

Maybe Apoppin can bench for you guys on his X850.

Are you Serious, Rollo?
:Q

you are using ME as an EXCUSE to NOT bench PF? :Q
😕

After you set YOURSELF up as a bigger TARGET than the GoodYear blimp by spreading FUD about ATi's "lack" of VTF by starting SEVERAL threads?

give me a freakin' break
:roll:

OK, i have a challenge for you if you will stick to your word and what you posted:

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Pete
Hail Mary weekend bump. Help us Rollo, you're our only hope--or at least the only guy in all of Video with a GF6/7 and PF.

Last plea, honest.

Could I just give the game to someone that cares about this? PayPal me $5 for shipping via UPS and it's yours?

i'll send you $5 for the game [no paypal], bench it on my x850xt@PE [someone guide me please] and then SEND [at my expense] it to someone with a similar setup to yours to bench and post the results here. . . .

Are you up for it . . . or do you just prefer to start FUD?

edited [finally]

Apoppin! What the hell did you actually expect after your flamebait of the month a few posts up? Did you expect Rollo, or anyone else for that matter to greet you with warm and fuzziness? Quit yer flaming man. It's getting so old, it's turning to dust. I don't truly know what your goal is here, though I am certain you have set one for yourself. If you truly wanted results of this game, you certainly could have presented yourself in a more respectable manner, and maybe gotten what you wanted. I think you just like to re-read your own posts over and over again. Like to hear yourself "talk".

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Rollo
My apologies to the board.

I was going to do this as a favor to the board, as I have no desire to start that game again.

If asshats are going to make obnoxious posts to me when I'm willing to do the board a favor, I am no longer willing to do the board a favor.

I don't work for asshats IRL, or online.

you start a giant flamewar, and now you're calling us asshats?

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: Rogodin2
I just put PF on our server here at the cafe and I'll bench it.

I've been playing Oleg's flight sims for years now so I'm familiar with the benchmark techniques.

System is:

Connect3d X850 GTO AGP flavor
AMD 3200+ socket 754
Gigabyte mainboard
2 gigs of corsair 3200 DDR
200gig Maxtor Sata
Onboard sound though

You PF guys should check out screenshotart.com

Rogo

You won't be able to check VTF though.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Apoppin! What the hell did you actually expect after your flamebait of the month a few posts up? Did you expect Rollo, or anyone else for that matter to greet you with warm and fuzziness? Quit yer flaming man. It's getting so old, it's turning to dust. I don't truly know what your goal is here, though I am certain you have set one for yourself. If you truly wanted results of this game, you certainly could have presented yourself in a more respectable manner, and maybe gotten what you wanted. I think you just like to re-read your own posts over and over again. Like to hear yourself "talk".

True dat.

I literally came back here looking to see what settings people wanted, ready to do the damn benches I have no desire to do, and I see apoppin's mouth diarrhea instead.

Some people are a damn fine argument for abortion.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Rollo
My apologies to the board.

I was going to do this as a favor to the board, as I have no desire to start that game again.

If asshats are going to make obnoxious posts to me when I'm willing to do the board a favor, I am no longer willing to do the board a favor.

I don't work for asshats IRL, or online.

you start a giant flamewar, and now you're calling us asshats?

If the hat fits, it must be worn.

 

[BFG10K]

I find it comical that we have three pages of "follow up" but we have yet to see a single benchmark.

Rollo seems more interested in trolling, as per usual.

 

[TecHNooB]

Seems to me like Rollo wasn't sure how to benchmark the game. So he abandons the thread. People obviously weren't going to let this go due to the flamewars that occured in the other threads about pacific fighters. Some anti-Rollo-ers, having been given the impression that Rollo had given up, couldn't wait for the opportunity to point this out. Thus a flamewar ensues and the thread is revived. Rollo then claims to have been waiting for us to tell him what we wanted benched and now says he will no longer bench the game due to flames towards him.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Apoppin! What the hell did you actually expect after your flamebait of the month a few posts up? Did you expect Rollo, or anyone else for that matter to greet you with warm and fuzziness? Quit yer flaming man. It's getting so old, it's turning to dust. I don't truly know what your goal is here, though I am certain you have set one for yourself. If you truly wanted results of this game, you certainly could have presented yourself in a more respectable manner, and maybe gotten what you wanted. I think you just like to re-read your own posts over and over again. Like to hear yourself "talk".

True dat.

I literally came back here looking to see what settings people wanted, ready to do the damn benches I have no desire to do, and I see apoppin's mouth diarrhea instead.

Some people are a damn fine argument for abortion.

first of all Keys, you have ZERO room to talk.
:thumbsdown:

Secondly, Rollo, YOU are the ONE that started THREE anti-ATi FUD threads about PF's supposed lack of VTF and THEN - after asked by many members for benchs - said you DIDN'T CARE and would GIVE your game AWAY for shipping costs.

THAT is WHEN i called you on your trolling. 😉
and i use the same "tone" you use with me - too bad you don't like it
:roll:

Don't pretend you are willing to do us any favours or that "i" caused you to "give up" . . . you made your intentions clear already. . . . you like to stir things up against ATi but don't care to back up your position.

i will call you on it when you do it again . . .

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: TecHNooB
Seems to me like Rollo wasn't sure how to benchmark the game. So he abandons the thread. People obviously weren't going to let this go due to the flamewars that occured in the other threads about pacific fighters. Some anti-Rollo-ers, having been given the impression that Rollo had given up, couldn't wait for the opportunity to point this out. Thus a flamewar ensues and the thread is revived. Rollo then claims to have been waiting for us to tell him what we wanted benched and now says he will no longer bench the game due to flames towards him.

Think what you want, but FRAPs isn't really hard to use. I only asked for settings because I didn't want to be bothered again with requests like "Meh- you should have used TSAA" and the like.

It really does boil down to "I didn't want to do it, was going to do it anyway, and decided not to due to asshat behavior".