Pacific Fighters VTF follow up

[RobertR1]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Sc4freak

I don't see the motive or any logical reason. While Apoppin's actions should hardly be ignored, I don't think what you are doing is going to help.

don't bother with logic . . . it's his 'ball' and he doesn't want ANYbody to play.

fortunately most of the rest of us are not children . . .

i AM responsible for my actions . . . and i am buying PF - now - and d/l'ing it overnight . . . . i really want to see this damn thing benched

i PM'med Matt2 to see if i can send it to him after i run it on my x850xt. . . .
:thumbsup:

EDIT: WIll i be able to use D2D to burn a copy to DVD or does it "stay" on my HD?

I'm willing to bench it on my x1800xt, if you're willing to pass it around.

 

[Rogodin2]

I'll bench it on a 6800gs, 6800vanilla, 6600GT (all 256mb cards) and a X850 GTO.

I'll use the kamikazee track and FRAPS for the min,max, and average.

Should have it done today.

Rogo

 

[TheRyuu]

If I owned the game I'd bench it for you, so if someone feels like sending it to me I'll bench it on my 7800GT SLI on whatever settings you want.

And, how come every topic the Rollo gets involved in turns into a giant flame war??????

Can't we all just get along????

 

[Matt2]

If apoppin can get me the game I'm still willing to bench it.

Single card, SLI, mutiple AA settings, TRSSAA, TRMSAA... I'll even move the comp from the LCD to my 19" CRT so we can get mutiple resolutions.

 

[TheRyuu]

Originally posted by: Matt2
If apoppin can get me the game I'm still willing to bench it.

Single card, SLI, mutiple AA settings, TRSSAA, TRMSAA... I'll even move the comp from the LCD to my 19" CRT so we can get mutiple resolutions.

I can do the same thing. I have almost the same setup as you too (except for the mobo and a couple of other things like Opty 175).

All I need is the dam game 😛

EDIT: Something tells me I shouldn't have gotten involved in this thread 😛

 

[Rogodin2]

Got the game configured and took a few quick shots of the water (3 in config file, perfect)

Here's a pic:

VTF water

Rogo

 

[Matt2]

Originally posted by: Rogodin2
Got the game configured and took a few quick shots of the water (3 in config file, perfect)

Here's a pic:

VTF water

Rogo

Very nice.

benches?

 

[Rogodin2]

Just had two carloads of kids come into the cafe but I'll try to get some benchies up by tonight

Rogo

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: RobertR1

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Sc4freak

I don't see the motive or any logical reason. While Apoppin's actions should hardly be ignored, I don't think what you are doing is going to help.

don't bother with logic . . . it's his 'ball' and he doesn't want ANYbody to play.

fortunately most of the rest of us are not children . . .

i AM responsible for my actions . . . and i am buying PF - now - and d/l'ing it overnight . . . . i really want to see this damn thing benched

i PM'med Matt2 to see if i can send it to him after i run it on my x850xt. . . .
:thumbsup:

EDIT: WIll i be able to use D2D to burn a copy to DVD or does it "stay" on my HD?

I'm willing to bench it on my x1800xt, if you're willing to pass it around.

i am d/ling the game now . . . i will be glad to send it to You, Wizboy11 and anyone reliable who wants to bench it . . . i already replied to Matt2 by PM [he's 1st, after me] and anyone else can PM me.

Please remember it will take a couple of days for the D/L . . . unless you can suggest something faster [it's paid for]

oh, yeah . . . D2D says i can back up to CD/DVD
:thumbsup:
i just wanna make sure we do it 'legit'. 😉

2nd edit: Pic looks nice . . . what kind of rig you using Rogo?

At any rate i will still D/L the game and am GLAD to send it along for benchmarking.
🙂

 

[apoppin]

Does anybody know [for sure] about D2D? . . . it is related to FilePlanet

to save time [3 days], Matt2 agreed to D/L it over his fast connection . . . do all i need to do is give him my account and password [and e-mail for verification plus the Key to unlock the game]?

if no one "knows" i will have to read the TOS . . . i don't want to screw with the licence . . . i expect PF can be installed on only one rig at one time.

 

[apoppin]

final Update from me and Good News re: Pacific Fighters VTF follow up

Matt2 has D/L'd PF over D2D on his high speed connection using my account.

He has the game and hopefully we shall see the benchmarks we are looking forward to.

He informed me he would send then me a copy to benchmark on an x850xt - and if there is further interest, i will send it on for further testing.

i am just glad to be of service in this regard

thanks, Matt2


edited: Damn, i hate dial-up . . . am SO looking forward to wireless internet . . . it would take me 3 overnights to do what Matt2 did in a few minutes. . . if i can put up with dialup, i can put up with an aging rig - till i upgrade it. 😉

 

[Matt2]

Originally posted by: apoppin
final Update from me and Good News re: Pacific Fighters VTF follow up

Matt2 has D/L'd PF over D2D on his high speed connection using my account.

He will has the game and hopefully we sjall see the benchmarks we are looking forward to.

He informed me he would send then me a copy to benchmark on an x850xt - and if there is further interest, i will send it on for further testing.

i am just glad to be of service in this regard

thanks, Matt2

NP dude.

Tomorrow I will get some blank DVDs and send it off to you apoppin.

 

[Pete]

Damn, that's some nice-looking water. Thanks, guys, looking forward to your opinions and #s.

 

[Matt2]

INstalling game.... NOW

 

[Matt2]

Alright... so who knows how to force resolutions in PF???

The max resolution the setup utility gave me was 1152x864 🙁

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Matt2
Alright... so who knows how to force resolutions in PF???

The max resolution the setup utility gave me was 1152x864 🙁

you have to edit the files . . . you are trying for 10x12?

there are a LOT of people here more capable at this than i . . . if we don't get an answer tonight, i'll bump it in the AM . . .


Perhaps 10x7/11x8 IS what you want to bench it at . . . it is supposed to be a real resource hog with everything enabled and max.

anyway, i am glad it's installed and running . . . that seemed to be the most difficult part . . . 😉

edit: i'm heading for bed . . . aloha

:thumbsup: for using D2D to get a game quickly

 

[Matt2]

Ok, got the res fixed, found the confi.ini

I'm supposed to set the water detail to "3" right?? It was default "1". For some reason my water doesnt look as good as Rogo's

 

[Matt2]

nevermind, VTF is enabled, just doesnt look as good as Rogo's...

I thought VTF wasnt working until i set the water back to 1... yikes it was ugly.

So far I have screens with the FRAPS counter for SLI8x and SLI16x with VTF enabled and settings maxed... 16xAF forced through drivers as well.

I'm gonna wait till I get all the settings I want screened before releasing the screenshots showing the FPS count.

I will however say that at 1280x1024 (LCD res) 8x and 16x SLI-AA are VERY playable.

I doubt that'll be the case when I move to the CRT and run 1600x1200 though.

 

[Pete]

So there's no water = 4? Or is that just in the new dlls?

In this new release of dlls, besides already included changes for nVidia cards you will see the following changes:

1. New mode water=2 This new water mode is visually similar to water=3 but it runs on ATI cards 9800, X800, X1800. I am not sure about earlier cards, but feel free to test. Also this mod should be running on Geforce 5900 series as well (But it is not tested yet)

2. Optimized memory usage for Water=0, 1, 2

Please test all water modes from 0 up to 4

Keep in mind, that ATI supports modes: 0, 1, 2
Nvidia 6600 and up supports: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4
Nvidia below 6600 supports 0,1,2

Ah, here we go:

Water=2 is optimized for nvidia cards that dont have pixel shader 3 support, meaning Gforce below 6xxx and ATI cards

From what i know from Hunter82... Winter, 3.0 is not coded the same for nVidia and ATI.... meaning nVidia uses texture prefetch while ATI does not and i don`t think water=3 or 4 that requires texture prefetch will work correctly for ATI.

Rogo's shot looks better than any other I can find (the angle and water color are especially nice), but these come pretty close. These, too. Not (m)any GF6/7 users in that thread, so no water = 3/4 shots.

Remember to try water=4, if it's not exclusive to the new dlls.

 

[Neavo]

yea i have that game, it came with my RADEON X800. boy do i know about how boring that game is.
i played it for about 1.5 minutes....and stopped. i had to Counter strike for 3 hours before i could shake that stupid game off.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Pete
So there's no water = 4? Or is that just in the new dlls?

In this new release of dlls, besides already included changes for nVidia cards you will see the following changes:

1. New mode water=2 This new water mode is visually similar to water=3 but it runs on ATI cards 9800, X800, X1800. I am not sure about earlier cards, but feel free to test. Also this mod should be running on Geforce 5900 series as well (But it is not tested yet)

2. Optimized memory usage for Water=0, 1, 2

Please test all water modes from 0 up to 4

Keep in mind, that ATI supports modes: 0, 1, 2
Nvidia 6600 and up supports: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4
Nvidia below 6600 supports 0,1,2

Ah, here we go:

Water=2 is optimized for nvidia cards that dont have pixel shader 3 support, meaning Gforce below 6xxx and ATI cards

From what i know from Hunter82... Winter, 3.0 is not coded the same for nVidia and ATI.... meaning nVidia uses texture prefetch while ATI does not and i don`t think water=3 or 4 that requires texture prefetch will work correctly for ATI.

Rogo's shot looks better than any other I can find (the angle and water color are especially nice), but these come pretty close. These, too. Not (m)any GF6/7 users in that thread, so no water = 3/4 shots.

Remember to try water=4, if it's not exclusive to the new dlls.

good morning . . . did i wake up late . . . musta slep thru the alarm clock 😱

and then i wake up to "Pete's" ubi-thread . . . now i have a headache . . . no wonder the OP gave up . . . 😀

anyway, i am still interested in the results . . . i guess we really need more benchs with the 7800 series as that is the only thing the thread at ubi is lacking . . . and maybe confirmation that 3/4 don't work correctly on even x1800 series . . . but i gotta wait until i'm back from work . . . C-ya!

 

[Matt2]

My VTF doesnt seem to be working. water set at 3 or 4 looks better than 1-2, but absolutely NOTHING like Rogo's pic or the pics Pete linked to??

WTH?

Something has to be botched. I'm using the most recent patch, 81.98's... DO I have to disable AF or something?

 

[Rogodin2]

Hey fellas, here is the intial benchie using FRAPS.

Matt, you need to enable 'Perfect' water in the hardware setup, video settings, custom.

Here is the Kamikazee track ran for exactly one minute with manual controls, and inflight messages turned off.

Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
2194, 61423, 17, 76, 35.720

Water 3, 1024x768@32bit, no aa, no af, hardware sound effects turned off.

This is on this rig:

XFX 6800vanilla 256mb pcie
Chaintech VNF4 Ultra
1 gig of Dual channel 3200 DDR
80gig Sata WD
Integrated Sound
AMD 64 3000+ stock


I'll next try it with VTF disabled.


Then I'll run it on a similar rig with an X850 GTO and on another rig with a 6800GS

Rogo

 

[Rogodin2]

Here is the same run on the 6800vanilla with VTF disabled.

Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
3544, 70012, 24, 76, 50.620


Matt-to be a little more clear, you need to go to hardware setup ingame options, not the setup screen, video options, landscape detail, change from excellent to 'perfect'.

Up next screen of the X850 and a bench even though it doesn't do vtf you can see if you notice a difference.

Rogo

 

[John Reynolds]

Also, the "perfect" landscape option is only available in OpenGL mode.