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oldfart

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Technonut, how accurate is the CPU temp reading on an IT7? Different boards give different readings. ASUS tends to report ~ 5C lower than normal. Does the IT7 read on the high side? 50C idle is pretty hot.
 

Technonut

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i think the real problem on Techno's system is that he's using the retail TIM and its a POS.
some AS insted should yield a nice improvement.
i really like for him to try it and prove a point, since he litterally is "the worst case senario"
For piss n' giggles, I will remove the retail HSF and apply AS3. :) Results will follow sometime tomorrow. I don't feel like lapping the thing, but will put a straight edge across it to check.
how accurate is the CPU temp reading on an IT7? Different boards give different readings. ASUS tends to report ~ 5C lower than normal. Does the IT7 read on the high side? 50C idle is pretty hot.
The IT7 is known for temp differences across the board. I really am not sure if it is indeed that hot. The system still has not crashed or locked up. I do have a digital Doc 5. I may run a probe to the processor just to get an idea of what the edge of the heat spreader is putting out.
 

THUGSROOK

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do the abit boards still have "throttle %" in the bios?
thatll make it really easy to see throttling ~ just set it for 25% and itll be obvious.

:D
 

Duvie

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Abits are notorious for reporting high temperatures...In some of my past temp threads I heard it many time...May be some of the highest I saw...

Definitely try Thugs idea as I was able to get my chip to throttle but not at 65-66c I got when trying to run a crappy Thermaltake Volcano at 2.66ghz, so 66c didn't throttle for me on my board...It was when I used MBM5.1.9.1 monitor program and picked an incorrect sensor and it said my temp was 125c from that point on (I also had 25% in bios) my sandra scores were drastically reduced.
 

CrazySaint

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Btw, do the stock Intel heatsinks need lapped? I plan on using one with my 1.8A, at least initially (will probably upgrade the HSF at some point, especially if temps are high).
 

Technonut

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I was doing some research, and came across This Article at Overclockers.com. ("Pentium 4 1.8A Shoot Out" ) Stock HSF.
Setup Test 12: ABIT BD7II @ 150FSB 2.7Ghz Settings: CPU: DRAM 4:3, AGP/PCI: 66/33
CPU Vcore / Temp Idle / Full Condition

SL63X 1.65V / 53 / 65C Stable

SL68Q (Malay) 1.65V / 54 / 66C Stable
The thermal probe is obviously not doing its job on ABIT BD7II. The temperature was offset by approximately 11 degrees! By touching the HSF on all three setups, my guess would be that both ABIT SA-7 and Gigabyte IGX were more accurate. The range of temperature, which all 3 CPU are operating at default voltage and stock HSF is approximately 36-51 degrees.
 

dbwillis

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Bump-
I got a 1.8a coming tomorrow (or Wed due to weather), wonder what Ill get it to..........
 

SinfulWeeper

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Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
my vid card has been "bios flashed" to run @ 320x730.
it is 1000% stable at this speed.

to run tests at default speed would be a waste of my time ;)

Me needs linkies on how to flash my Leadtek Ti4400 VIVO. It handles overclocks well... but I hate starting up the computer and having to wait for the tweakbits to engage the overclock. It would be nice if it always started like that :cool:

BTW. I am finally venturing into Intel territory after a long while. I have a Abit BE7-R and a 1.6a CPU on the way in. Just by looking at the box when it arrives. What would be the ideal sspec for OC'ing it?
 

SinfulWeeper

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I should learn to read more before I post questions :eek:

I have a concern about this though. Will a NVidia flash disable my VIVO?

Also, where do you get the programs? I am having trouble finding them at NVidia's site.
Duh... try right on top of this forum :eek:. :cool:

<----- Looks @ Corsair PC2400 memory and cringes. Thinks in head: "Even if I get a good OC'er CPU. My memory will cook me breakfast... if I do not eat it first."
 

Egrimm

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Most often programs that let you flash the bios on your gfx-card let you back-up the old one first. You might even be able to modify that one with other clock-speeds but otherwise let it remain unchanged. If not the you can always flash it back to the old bios if vivo doesn't work with the new.

2400 ram is a start, it'll let you run 150fsb with stock speed and can prolly take 160-170 without problems (if not more). So while you won't get stellar memory benchmarks it should cover your needs I think. Not all 1.6As go beyond 150, 160 isn't too common either. Just some of us that got lucky :p
 

SinfulWeeper

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Well I am going to try it next week. I will let you guys know if VIVO will work or not. But for a Ti4200, it clocks rather well 320/680 stable, or 340/620 mostly stable.

... or is that lame for a Ti4200? :confused:
 

dbwillis

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Well I got my 1.8a at 910am today from FedEx, its dated 7/10/02, Costa Rica, SL63X

running Prime95 at 140fsb, default vcore (1.48 load~1.52 idle), 1:1 now...over 2 hrs

I was bored last night, so I lapped the Alpha8942
Lapped Alpha

Figured as long as I was at it to do the 1.8a
Lapped 1.8a #1
Lapped 1.8a #2
 

Egrimm

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Originally posted by: SinfulWeeper
Well I am going to try it next week. I will let you guys know if VIVO will work or not. But for a Ti4200, it clocks rather well 320/680 stable, or 340/620 mostly stable.

... or is that lame for a Ti4200? :confused:

It's quite good, got 200/526 out of mine but it is the cheapest you can get, the costlier ones with better hsf's will do better.
 

PhoenixOfWater

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Originally posted by: dbwillis
Well I got my 1.8a at 910am today from FedEx, its dated 7/10/02, Costa Rica, SL63X

running Prime95 at 140fsb, default vcore (1.48 load~1.52 idle), 1:1 now...over 2 hrs

I was bored last night, so I lapped the Alpha8942
Lapped Alpha

Figured as long as I was at it to do the 1.8a
Lapped 1.8a #1
Lapped 1.8a #2

....You Lapped the CPU?!?!?!?! "Wow"....thats all i have to say...
 

THUGSROOK

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dont they look pretty? :D

my 1.6A and alpha have been swapped out so many times they look like junk right now :(
 

SupermanCK

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Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
dont they look pretty? :D

my 1.6A and alpha have been swapped out so many times they look like junk right now :(

lol...
oh yeah...7/10 pack date new?
i saw some 10/14 when i was at a computer show last weekend...
 

dbwillis

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I got it from Neweggy....ordered on 11/15 and got it yesterday (picked up at FedEx this AM)...maybe Neweggy got an older batch? or held some older ones?
Is it a known 'bad' date? or is the X code a bad one?

Well, Ill see how it goes tonight.... hopefully hit 150....with 3:4 my DDR is maxed out, unless I can get 166 at 1:1, but thats prob not doable
 

THUGSROOK

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no its not a bad pack date ~ i just woulda expected something "newer".

dont let me jinx you tho ~ go go go dbw! :D
 

SinfulWeeper

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What grit sandpaper did you use? The finest I can find in my town is 600 grit. I am afraid to try sanding a CPU or heatsink with that.
 

dbwillis

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