P&Ns middle name is and

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https://imgur.com/Y7N1vNh

 

[Pohemi]

Talk about old money, jeebus chreesto.

 

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[pmv]

Talk about old money, jeebus chreesto.

Doesn't surprise me one iota. Quite obvious when considering the very wealthiest, like the aristocracy and those closely connected to them (like most of our recent PMs), but I suspect it applies at the level of much larger groups than that.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Doesn't surprise me one iota. Quite obvious when considering the very wealthiest, like the aristocracy and those closely connected to them (like most of our recent PMs), but I suspect it applies at the level of much larger groups than that.

Plus, with even a modicum of self control, a very mild amount of money (5m or so) an individual can live a completely comfortable life and gain money by the end of it via reliable investments (even prev stock market). Repeat for several lifetimes and you can have an absolute dragon hoard with zero real effort.

 

[cytg111]

Well there's an easy final solution.

 

[zinfamous]

I don’t think you fully understand the America of the 60’s nor understand Star Trek if you are calling it “vaguely progressive “.

America and American TV was predominately centered on being white and male.

Then here’s Star Trek. The command crew has a black woman officer (Uhura), former enemy of the US (Sulu - Japanese), and current enemy (Checkov - Russian) all working together.

That was extremely progressive for the time. The circumstances around Uhura’s and Kirk’s kiss in Plato Children was basically to get around studio interference. (This kind of interference was still going on into the 00’s with resistance to allowing Willow and Tara to kiss romantically on Buffy)

I’ll also add this story Nichelle Nichols (Uhura) told about what Martin Luther King said to her about the show to reiterate how progressive it actually was. (Actually heard this story from her when I met her in person)

Ms. NICHOLS: I went in to tell Gene Roddenberry that I was leaving after the first season, and he was very upset about it. And he said, take the weekend and think about what I am trying to achieve here in this show. You're an integral part and very important to it. And so I said, yes, I would. And that - on Saturday night, I went to an NAACP fundraiser, I believe it was, in Beverly Hills. And one of the promoters came over to me and said, Ms. Nichols, there's someone who would like to meet you. He says he is your greatest fan.

And I'm thinking a Trekker, you know. And I turn, and before I could get up, I looked across the way and there was the face of Dr. Martin Luther King smiling at me and walking toward me. And he started laughing. By the time he reached me, he said, yes, Ms. Nichols, I am your greatest fan. I am that Trekkie.

(Soundbite of laughter)

Ms. NICHOLS: And I was speechless. He complimented me on the manner in which I'd created the character. I thanked him, and I think I said something like, Dr. King, I wish I could be out there marching with you. He said, no, no, no. No, you don't understand. We don't need you on the - to march. You are marching. You are reflecting what we are fighting for. So, I said to him, thank you so much. And I'm going to miss my co-stars.

And his face got very, very serious. And he said, what are you talking about? And I said, well, I told Gene just yesterday that I'm going to leave the show after the first year because I've been offered - and he stopped me and said: You cannot do that. And I was stunned. He said, don't you understand what this man has achieved? For the first time, we are being seen the world over as we should be seen. He says, do you understand that this is the only show that my wife Coretta and I will allow our little children to stay up and watch. I was speechless.”

Each of the next several series continued to be progressive.

Honestly, I think it's even more important to point out what a Socialist, liberal Utopia the Federation and Starfleet were:

No real jobs for citizens.
"Universal basic income" (no money, actually) such that all citizens could pursue creative and happy lives, as all necessary resources were provided
Science and Knowledge and intellectual pursuits in general were the highest, most respected goals
No specific religion, but all religions generally tolerated, except for the zealots. All of the galactic enemies were religious extremists attempting to populate the galaxy with their theocratic supremacy.

 

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[hal2kilo]

nm

 

[hal2kilo]

Talk about old money, jeebus chreesto.

Wonder if some of that is still money from the sacking of Constantinople.

 

[Tsinni Dave]

Wonder if some of that is still money from the sacking of Constantinople.

It's from the sacking of pretty much every territory and people known at the time, sometimes repeatedly.

 

[purbeast0]

This is way funnier than it should be and had me LOL'ing.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1745108125458329662

 

[MtnMan]

I couldn't agree more.

Hey Donny, if the court rules like you wish they would... be wary of any Navy SEALs, they always complete their mission.

 

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[mikeymikec]

Two 1-minute clips long:

https://imgur.com/a/lzka5lN

 

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[[DHT]Osiris]

And their supporters. Don't forget their supporters. MTG would be a shitty footnote in history (if that) if it wasn't for people actually supporting her behavior.

 

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