Two things, better/mature drivers are needed & win8 which would probably squeeze a further 5~15%(or more) from 290x at those resolutions depending on the game title.
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Most if the Titans purchased were for HPC work, not gaming. The minority that did purchase them for gaming I would assume are well aware of the quickly diminishing returns of that investment.
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I know someone who bought two Titans for 1080p gaming...
Thankfully he eventually came to his senses and bought a 1600p monitor haha.
As it stands, I will not be going with a ref cooler. Hopefully a ref board with custom cooler, but not ref cooler.
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Without evidence(to prove your claim) I'll have to disagree with you especially after the number of titan owners I've seen on various tech forums not to mention titan was & still is marketed as a consumer oriented gaming card, so unless there's some real data to prove your hypothesis I'm going with my own personal observations. Just a minor query though, do all the HPC oriented features enabled on a Tesla(say K20x) also work on a desktop with titan alongside the necessary drivers?
The idea that Titan owners who purchased for gaming would be upset seems misplaced if that is the right word.
It's like saying 580 owners are upset because of the 680, or that 480 owners were upset because of the 580... Or that 5870 users are upset because of the 6970, or that 460 users are upset because of the 660...
Titan owners enjoyed the only option for that performance for several months before the 780, and most likely even with the 780 Ti will enjoy a very fast video card.
780 Ti will be beat in probably less than a year, so it's baffling that have nots think that haves should be upset, it's standard issue for tech - even on the low end.
It's like saying 580 owners are upset because of the 680, or that 480 owners were upset because of the 580... Or that 5870 users are upset because of the 6970, or that 460 users are upset because of the 660...
Titan owners enjoyed the only option for that performance for several months before the 780, and most likely even with the 780 Ti will enjoy a very fast video card.
780 Ti will be beat in probably less than a year, so it's baffling that have nots think that haves should be upset, it's standard issue for tech - even on the low end.
Considering that the 290X looks like 6%ish faster than Titan, I don`t think Titan owners will give a damn to be honest.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35631048&postcount=42
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35631048&postcount=42
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The real disappointment would likely have been felt by individuals who purchased the Titan for gaming primarily on May 23rd when Nvidia released a card that, when overclocked, outpeformed the Titan only 3 months after Titans release at 2/3 the price... However, I don't see why anyone who bought the card for DP would care (even though the 7970 is capable of 2/3 the DP performance at 1/3 the price)...
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So I guess what you're saying is that anyone who's not an outright owner of a titan card should not have an opinion about it, or perhaps shouldn't express it on AT forums :hmm:
I for one value efficiency as much as VFM as a metric to gauge a product's worth & the titan fails spectacularly in both of these areas so unless you can disprove any of these things I think you should keep your tinted commentary to yourself & not make it sound like everyone else's observations are just drivel.
It's not that they or anybody shouldn't be allowed an opinion. But no one should be pissed about buying the fastest and then a faster product comes out. That's the tech world. It's also the tech world to hear about people bitching about how they spent X dollars Y ago and now something beat it, but it's never been a legit complaint on any level. If they bought it yesterday then they didn't do their due diligence as a purchaser. If they bought it a year ago then it's the normal circle of life. Depending on time frame it can fit somewhere in the middle. But at no point does some imaginary fault for spending their dollars on a less shiny product fall on Nvidia or AMD.
None of those examples are at all comparable to Titan vs. 780.
That aside, I really haven't seen anyone who bought a Titan upset about the perf/$ difference for the 780. At least not publicly.
You're half right, I should have added things like, 580 owners vs 570, cheaper card comes out after faster card with 90% of the performance.
I see several people who bought Titan then quickly sold it for a small loss and pocketed the difference as they switched to the 780.
I see several people who bought Titan then quickly sold it for a small loss and pocketed the difference as they switched to the 780.
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I'm hearing $599 MSRP for a reference 290X in Canada. Likely with a small initial markup, so $629 or $639 type deal for the first while. Haven't heard a price for the 290. I'm guessing $499, maybe $449 with a stroke of luck.
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There were a few press releases on Titan sales in the months after release that if you trended numbers with other databases (steam hardware survey, etc.) there were discrepancies in the uptake as to point out an ~ 1/3 stock going to gaming. This is in stark contrast to other similar releases, i.e. the 780's. I could have sworn there were some posts on this forum about it too, a forum search might turn them up. Also, to toss around anecdotal evidence, some of the labs in vicinity to mine picked up a few with cheap grants and they haven't seen a lick of gaming.
Exactly, which is why they made the purchase in the first place. From an HPC perspective the Titan was a new era of bargain horsepower, and anyone who did their research knew it. The 780 doesn't change this at all.
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Back on topic here, those look like some decent OC results. I am starting to have some high hopes here for the 290 and 290x for OC performance vs. their nvidia rivals, the 780 Ti and titan.
Obviously, they are much cheaper than titan, (I hope, no exact pricing yet) but maintain similar or better performance, and it looks like the Voltage control will be good and helpful once updated.
Obviously, they are much cheaper than titan, (I hope, no exact pricing yet) but maintain similar or better performance, and it looks like the Voltage control will be good and helpful once updated.
Just to have a recap, the TDP of 290x is rated at or near ~300W ? In which case decent after market coolers & non reference boards should fly off the shelves especially with the level of freedom AMD products are known for these days.
Yeah I get that but I was just thinking if any of the leaks mentioned the (un)official TDP numbers.
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I think I speak for many here who are particularly interested in one performance metric.
How will it perform against GTX470 SLI ?
Infraction issued for thread crapping and callout. Bye.
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How will it perform against GTX470 SLI ?
Infraction issued for thread crapping and callout. Bye.
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