OU getting beat 21-7

[cmdavid]

Early season losses should count JUST AS MUCH as a late season loss plain and simple. A loss if a fvcking loss. Teams shouldnt be punished for losing late in the season. Whats funny is, if OU lost to Texas Tech, and beat Kansas State, no one would question anything. A loss is a fvcking loss for christs sake, and yes a loss to a fvcking scrub patsy sorry ass 6 loss Pac 10 team is worse than a loss to a 3 loss #15 team. It doesnt matter the score. Everyone always says, thats why the play the game. Yeah and for christs sake for the final time a LOSS IS A MOTHER FVCKING LOSS, shouldnt matter when it comes. OU is still the best team in college football, and USC whiners will be served a plate full of crow when Michigan hands them their over rated asses.

you're wrong in saying that a loss is still a loss... it's completely different when ONE PLAY could have changed the outcome of the game (USC beating CAL) and when you've got an entire game of total domination (KState over OU)... USC could have easily done one different play to be CAL, they'd be undefeated and in the nat'l campionship (by the way, i hate USC, i think they're overrated and they suck and don't deserve to be ranked so high.. but you can't argue with an undefeated team in a BCS conference, yes i know they're not undefeated, i'm just saying they could be easily).. same with LSU, a few different plays and they'd be undefeated.. meanwhile, OU, who hasn't played anybody all season (don't give me that UT crap either, they lost to Arkansas) gets blown out when they finally play a half-decent team, and they still deserve to be in the nat'l championship? "we shouldnt punish them for losing late in the season".. why not? every other team gets punished for losing... why shouldn't OU.. you tell me ONE instance this season, when a big game loser dropped less than one spot in the BCS rankings in the week following the loss's rankings... yet that's what you expect from OU because "they're the best team, no matter what".. well whoop-de-doo.. let's jump on the commentator bandwagon, that's what they've been saying all season about OU.. about how they're "unstoppable" and "the best college football team ever"... blah blah blah.. and they get whooped up on in their own conference championship game... i'm sorry, but any team that can't even claim the title to their conference, does not even DESERVE a shot at the national championship....

edited to get rid of all the quotes...

 

[NeoV]

A loss isn't a loss, sorry......and the timing of the loss DOES matter - should a team playing well or a team that just got their A44 handed to them get to play for the title.

OU fan, face it, you can't tell me your team is still the best team in the NCAA - you are clearly not even as good as K.St - a one game fluke win happens on a hail mary pass, or on a day when one team turns the ball over 9 times, or star players are out/hurt in the game - none of that was true in this game - they were out-coached, out-played, and physically beaten up by K.St.

This is going to be another nail in the coffin of the BCS.

 

[fastz28]

Conspiracy theory:

ou threw the game just to keep Texas out of the BCS.

Yep, that's something Stooops would do.

 

[kalster]

no one here wud have any doubts about OU had they lost say 27-24 or 13-10 (like most OSU victories )

but getting totally owned , i am sorry, thatz not national championship material

bad game as someone mentioned is missed field goal or overtime loss but getting beat 35-7 is being fuvking outplayed like it or not


as far as OU being still better than USC and LSU


well OU lost to K State by a big ass margin (who lost of paltry (borrowed from ur language) ass teams like Marshall)

so i dont see wat makes u so confident that they'd handily beat not just 1 but both of em

 

[dcpsoguy]

all this talk about usc, where is LSU? I believe they will be playing for a National Championship, and, I believe they will win!

 

[Zebo]

I'm gonna laugh my ass off later today when we find out it's SC-LSU in the sugar...that'll make 2 straight years OU got fusked...PLAYOFFS PLEASE!!!!

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: Zebo
I'm gonna laugh my ass off later today when we find out it's SC-LSU in the sugar...that'll make 2 straight years OU got fusked...PLAYOFFS PLEASE!!!!

It won't be.

OU is already #1 in three of the four computer polls that have been released.

Unless the voters drop them below 3 in the USA Today and AP poll, OU will still be headed to the Sugar Bowl.

What a crock of sh!t.

 

[Zebo]

Good info pitts... Ya NO ONE would rank them less than 3 so it's a done deal I guess by your info.

I wo'nt get into the SC/LSU debate because I'm baised...but surficed to say another year of contriversey shows yet again the need for playoffs...

 

[austin316]

I also feel bad for Florida. Here is a team that played 6 ranked teams, FOUR OF THEM RANKED 9TH OR BETTER. Sure they have four losses, but something has to be done for college football. They rank teams so much more by their record, rather than the quality of their wins. Now, Florida who only won one of the four is not the best example, but for sake of an argument, say they won another two of those games, giving them a 10-2 record and 3 wins over top ten teams. They would still be ranked far behind USC, which is not fair, due to more losses, even though they would have beated THREE teams that are better than ANY of USC's opponents. High school football in Ohio does what I believe is right. They go by computer points, where beating very good teams helps alot. Just this year, a 3 loss team in the regular season made it to the state championship, beating the COUNTRY'S!! number 2 ranked and number 10 ranked teams, before losing to the 9th ranked team in the country. They made the playoffs even with three losses 'cuz of the quality of their wins. A four or eight team playoff is needed. If conference championship games are taken away, a four team playoff wouldn't even add a game for some teams, and an eight team playoff would only add one game. Take away one non-conference game, and you have yourself an easy solution.

 

[TC2181]

After this performance, how can they not give the Doak Walker award to Darren Sproles? He is leading the nation in rushing, and all purpose yardage..and he just tore up the nations #1 defense. Oh yeah...cause Michigan and VT are media whores..

 

[gistech1978]

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: Zebo
I'm gonna laugh my ass off later today when we find out it's SC-LSU in the sugar...that'll make 2 straight years OU got fusked...PLAYOFFS PLEASE!!!!

It won't be.

OU is already #1 in three of the four computer polls that have been released.

Unless the voters drop them below 3 in the USA Today and AP poll, OU will still be headed to the Sugar Bowl.

What a crock of sh!t.

i gotta give to k-state. they played a good game
im heartbroken over it, but they obviously wanted it more.

oh and play in a real conference with conference championship games.
thats a crock of **** if you ask me.

 

[thereds]

Coaches Poll out right now...

1. USC
2. LSU
3. OU

 

[Hector13]

Well the new USATODAY/ESPN poll had:

#1 USC
#2 LSU
#3 OU

so the #1 team in the country by both human polls (probably) won't play in the "national championship" game... great.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: austin316
I also feel bad for Florida. Here is a team that played 6 ranked teams, FOUR OF THEM RANKED 9TH OR BETTER. Sure they have four losses, but something has to be done for college football. They rank teams so much more by their record, rather than the quality of their wins. Now, Florida who only won one of the four is not the best example, but for sake of an argument, say they won another two of those games, giving them a 10-2 record and 3 wins over top ten teams. They would still be ranked far behind USC, which is not fair, due to more losses, even though they would have beated THREE teams that are better than ANY of USC's opponents. High school football in Ohio does what I believe is right. They go by computer points, where beating very good teams helps alot. Just this year, a 3 loss team in the regular season made it to the state championship, beating the COUNTRY'S!! number 2 ranked and number 10 ranked teams, before losing to the 9th ranked team in the country. They made the playoffs even with three losses 'cuz of the quality of their wins. A four or eight team playoff is needed. If conference championship games are taken away, a four team playoff wouldn't even add a game for some teams, and an eight team playoff would only add one game. Take away one non-conference game, and you have yourself an easy solution.

Nice post with good playoff ideas..I've heard it said it's all about money and bowl games for them not having playoffs

...personally I think the major probelm with BCS ranking is trends...Dispite mediocre play early...Right now, K-state is red hot and could probably beat anyone but thier 10-3 record will NEVER have them in a championship game under the current system... Teams mature at different rates, I think OU peaked early and had an axe to grind from last year..but my money is'nt riding on them in the sugar.

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: gistech1978

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: Zebo
I'm gonna laugh my ass off later today when we find out it's SC-LSU in the sugar...that'll make 2 straight years OU got fusked...PLAYOFFS PLEASE!!!!

It won't be.

OU is already #1 in three of the four computer polls that have been released.

Unless the voters drop them below 3 in the USA Today and AP poll, OU will still be headed to the Sugar Bowl.

What a crock of sh!t.

i gotta give to k-state. they played a good game
im heartbroken over it, but they obviously wanted it more.

oh and play in a real conference with conference championship games.
thats a crock of **** if you ask me.

Conference championship games are crap.

 

[gistech1978]

Originally posted by: Hector13
Well the new USATODAY/ESPN poll had:

#1 USC
#2 LSU
#3 OU

so the #1 team in the country by both human polls (probably) won't play in the "national championship" game... great.

thats not for certain.
but to that, all i can say is dont lose to an unranked cal team.

a loss in a conference championship game against a ranked team late in the season counts more than a loss against an unranked team early in the season.
i guess.
OU deserves to play in the sugar bowl.

 

[thereds]

From Anderson (BCS Computer Rankings)...
With all due respect to #3 USC, the teams most deserving of invitations to the Sugar Bowl are #1 Oklahoma and #2 LSU

All 3 teams have 1 loss, and USC simply has not beaten anywhere near the caliber of teams that Oklahoma and LSU have beaten:
Based on teams' current rankings, Oklahoma and LSU have each played 2 games vs. better teams than USC's toughest opponent, and they have each played 5 games vs. better teams than USC's 2nd-toughest opponent
USC has not played a current top-15 team, and the Trojans are only 2-1 vs. the current top-40, despite playing #38 and #40

The best team USC has beaten is #18 Washington St., while Oklahoma has beaten #5 Texas, and LSU has beaten #12 Georgia twice

The 2nd-best team USC has played is #38 Cal, which beat the Trojans
Oklahoma and LSU have each lost only to a current top-25 team (#16 Kansas St. and #24 Florida, respectively), and they have combined for 9 wins over teams currently ranked higher than Cal

As the following list shows, USC has posted only 1 of the 10 best wins by these 3 teams (based on teams' current rankings):
1. Oklahoma over #5 Texas,
2. (tie) LSU over #12 Georgia (regular season),
2. (tie) LSU over #12 Georgia (SEC championship game),
4. USC over #18 Washington St.,
5. Oklahoma over #19 Oklahoma St.,
6. LSU over #20 Arkansas,
7. LSU over #23 Mississippi,
8. LSU over #24 Florida,
9. Oklahoma over #31 Texas Tech,
10. Oklahoma over #32 Missouri

In sum, the Trojans' top wins are over much worse teams than the Sooners and Tigers have beaten, and the Trojans' loss is to a much worse team too: Oklahoma and LSU deserve to play in the Sugar Bowl.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: thereds
From Anderson (BCS Computer Rankings)...
With all due respect to #3 USC, the teams most deserving of invitations to the Sugar Bowl are #1 Oklahoma and #2 LSU

All 3 teams have 1 loss, and USC simply has not beaten anywhere near the caliber of teams that Oklahoma and LSU have beaten:
Based on teams' current rankings, Oklahoma and LSU have each played 2 games vs. better teams than USC's toughest opponent, and they have each played 5 games vs. better teams than USC's 2nd-toughest opponent
USC has not played a current top-15 team, and the Trojans are only 2-1 vs. the current top-40, despite playing #38 and #40

The best team USC has beaten is #18 Washington St., while Oklahoma has beaten #5 Texas, and LSU has beaten #12 Georgia twice

The 2nd-best team USC has played is #38 Cal, which beat the Trojans
Oklahoma and LSU have each lost only to a current top-25 team (#16 Kansas St. and #24 Florida, respectively), and they have combined for 9 wins over teams currently ranked higher than Cal

As the following list shows, USC has posted only 1 of the 10 best wins by these 3 teams (based on teams' current rankings):
1. Oklahoma over #5 Texas,
2. (tie) LSU over #12 Georgia (regular season),
2. (tie) LSU over #12 Georgia (SEC championship game),
4. USC over #18 Washington St.,
5. Oklahoma over #19 Oklahoma St.,
6. LSU over #20 Arkansas,
7. LSU over #23 Mississippi,
8. LSU over #24 Florida,
9. Oklahoma over #31 Texas Tech,
10. Oklahoma over #32 Missouri

In sum, the Trojans' top wins are over much worse teams than the Sooners and Tigers have beaten, and the Trojans' loss is to a much worse team too: Oklahoma and LSU deserve to play in the Sugar Bowl.

Let the pissing and moaning begin LOL!

 

[gistech1978]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: thereds
From Anderson (BCS Computer Rankings)...
With all due respect to #3 USC, the teams most deserving of invitations to the Sugar Bowl are #1 Oklahoma and #2 LSU

All 3 teams have 1 loss, and USC simply has not beaten anywhere near the caliber of teams that Oklahoma and LSU have beaten:
Based on teams' current rankings, Oklahoma and LSU have each played 2 games vs. better teams than USC's toughest opponent, and they have each played 5 games vs. better teams than USC's 2nd-toughest opponent
USC has not played a current top-15 team, and the Trojans are only 2-1 vs. the current top-40, despite playing #38 and #40

The best team USC has beaten is #18 Washington St., while Oklahoma has beaten #5 Texas, and LSU has beaten #12 Georgia twice

The 2nd-best team USC has played is #38 Cal, which beat the Trojans
Oklahoma and LSU have each lost only to a current top-25 team (#16 Kansas St. and #24 Florida, respectively), and they have combined for 9 wins over teams currently ranked higher than Cal

As the following list shows, USC has posted only 1 of the 10 best wins by these 3 teams (based on teams' current rankings):
1. Oklahoma over #5 Texas,
2. (tie) LSU over #12 Georgia (regular season),
2. (tie) LSU over #12 Georgia (SEC championship game),
4. USC over #18 Washington St.,
5. Oklahoma over #19 Oklahoma St.,
6. LSU over #20 Arkansas,
7. LSU over #23 Mississippi,
8. LSU over #24 Florida,
9. Oklahoma over #31 Texas Tech,
10. Oklahoma over #32 Missouri

In sum, the Trojans' top wins are over much worse teams than the Sooners and Tigers have beaten, and the Trojans' loss is to a much worse team too: Oklahoma and LSU deserve to play in the Sugar Bowl.

Let the pissing and moaning begin LOL!

thats the truth of the situation right now. LOL!

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Eh, I don't see this dropping them out of the Sugar Bowl. It should though. I don't see how you should be able to compete for the National Title when you can't even win your own conference. We saw this a couple years ago when Oregon got screwed so Nebraska (who didn't win their conference) could go have the pleasure of getting their asses handed to them by Miami. Such a screwed up system :|

Then again, I'm not 1/10th of the college fans you guys are so I could be way off...

No, you are correct. This why the BCS is BS.

Every system but a playoff system is BS. But I still have no doubts that OU would beat either LSU or USC. You cant judge them by one game, even if its late in the season. USC lost to Cal for christs sake.

And hell, Kansas State lost to Marshall. Then OU just lost to Kansas State. How does ANY of it make sense.

How the fvck does losing to Cal make sense? Or playing alot more patsies than OU or LSU.

and K-State beat Cal. What does THAT mean?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Eh, I don't see this dropping them out of the Sugar Bowl. It should though. I don't see how you should be able to compete for the National Title when you can't even win your own conference. We saw this a couple years ago when Oregon got screwed so Nebraska (who didn't win their conference) could go have the pleasure of getting their asses handed to them by Miami. Such a screwed up system :|

Then again, I'm not 1/10th of the college fans you guys are so I could be way off...

No, you are correct. This why the BCS is BS.

Every system but a playoff system is BS. But I still have no doubts that OU would beat either LSU or USC. You cant judge them by one game, even if its late in the season. USC lost to Cal for christs sake.

And hell, Kansas State lost to Marshall. Then OU just lost to Kansas State. How does ANY of it make sense.

How the fvck does losing to Cal make sense? Or playing alot more patsies than OU or LSU.

and K-State beat Cal. What does THAT mean?

That collectively OU doesn't have the heart of a Champion!

 

[hevnsnt]

Originally posted by: C'DaleRider
That KU defense sure is playing tough.....and KU seems to have answers for OU's offense, although OU has been close. I just cannot believe KU is running so well on OU.

Dude, its KSU get it right man.. (K-state Alum here, that really hurt.)

KSU= K-State Wildcats
KU = KANSAS JAYHAWKS

 

[hdeck]

the only time in my life i need OU to win and they pull this crap. totally characteristic of a sooner. i don't care how badly they beat us, they don't deserve to go to the title game. bob stoops is leaving after this year and they won't be good anymore. i can't wait.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: hdeck
the only time in my life i need OU to win and they pull this crap. totally characteristic of a sooner. i don't care how badly they beat us, they don't deserve to go to the title game. bob stoops is leaving after this year and they won't be good anymore. i can't wait.

I get the two Stoops confused, but isnt Bob Stoops the older brother and head coach while Mike Stoops is the little brother co-defensive cord?

 

[tyler811]

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