Ossama Bin Laden was not armed.

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Apparently he was reaching for a gun when he was shot.

Perhaps they should have just let him grab it before responding with deadly force as a courtesy to quell Craig's twisted moral outrage.
 
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spidey07

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Apparently he was reaching for a gun when he was shot.

Perhaps they should have just let him grab it before responding with deadly force as a courtesy to quell Craig's twisted moral outrage.

I don't buy that for a minute. You have seals storming in, and apparent firefight according to Obama and he's "reaching for a weapon"? If there was gunfire he would have already gotten his weapon and have it ready, not "reaching for it".

This administration is stepping all over itself trying to get the story straight.
 
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I don't buy that for a minute. You have seals storming in, and apparent firefight according to Obama and he's "reaching for a weapon"? If there was gunfire he would have already gotten his weapon and have it ready, not "reaching for it".

This administration is stepping all over itself trying to get the story straight.
WH story is FUBAR...I understand their debriefing just ended and that someone associated with Team 6 recently stated Osama was reaching for a gun.
 
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SAWYER

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Craig is one either one very twisted, demented person or the ultimate master troll
 

SlickSnake

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bin Laden's 12 year-old daughter, the one who apparently witnessed his being shot, has said that he was grabbed by the SEALs while alive, dragged into a another room, then shot in front of his family. They then dragged his body out to the choppa.

man...It's easy to assume that it's bullshit, but it wouldn't surprise me. (I don't think SEALs are such cold calculating dudes, but you know, I wouldn't blame them. at the same time, I take this kind of stuff from an adult as a straight up lie, a 12 year-old girl, whoever she is, I don't know. :\)

All of the people in the compound had their hands bound by the SEALs, as reported earlier. Panetta said that direct com between CIA, Admin, and the SEAL team went black for the first 20 minutes, supposedly the time of entry and neutralization of bin Laden.

I love this shit. It sure sounds fucked up, haha. I only hope it is left in the land of speculation.

Cover story.

You only need a cover story when you are faking something or hiding something or both. Special effects used to fool a family into thinking someone had been executed would take at least a few minutes to prepare, and they had to brief OBL on what to expect, if he wanted his family to leave there alive. That was the bargaining chip they had and used on him to get him to cooperate. They didn't want to release the pics of OBL because they looked fake and wouldn't hold up to detailed scrutiny, since the special effects were rushed, not because they were so gruesome. Of course, the real pics of the others killed were gruesome enough anyhow to try to convince other doubters just how gruesome they might be. Those other pics were released on purpose, as part of the cover story. That was no accident the beloved patriot's sold them to the press.

If you think there is any way they planned for months to take him alive, then executed him when they got him unarmed, then I really have nothing else to say about it to you. You're on your own in politically correct fantasy land.

And another thing, all this "he was reaching for his gun BS" is just that, because he had plenty of time to arm himself when he heard the copters flying into the compound and they were crashing on the way in, ect. Trust me, he would have been already armed and ready to defend himself, not just reaching for his gun when they FINALLY got into the upstairs room, where he was locked inside. Honestly, what a BS cover story.

Their orders were explicit. Take OBL ALIVE and fake the death, otherwise they would have bombed the hell out of the compound when they discovered he was in it months ago and not given him 10 MONTHS SINCE LAST AUGUST to escape in the meantime.

(added 3 months to the prior estimate based on a later post with more info)
 
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Corn

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What is it with idiots who compare what a criminal does with how police or military should act?

'Our military raped their 12 year old daughter'.

'Ya? Well the bad guys raped 4 *8* year olds, so it wasn't as bad! That'll teach em!'

9/11 was said to be inspired by the Israeli invasion of Lebanon - part of which included a slaughter in a refugee camp. So by your logic, that makes retaliation like 9/11 ok.

People like this are the criminals, each retaliating against each other, using the other as justification, instead of having morality.

ICF gives you too much credit for assuming you to be simply too stupid to comprehend his post. You understood it perfectly well, you just can't help but to lie and misrepresent the words of those you disagree with to demonize them. As usual though, it is your stupidity that brings your dishonesty to light. Well done, silly liberal!
 

MotF Bane

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What is it with idiots who compare what a criminal does with how police or military should act?

'Our military raped their 12 year old daughter'.

'Ya? Well the bad guys raped 4 *8* year olds, so it wasn't as bad! That'll teach em!'

9/11 was said to be inspired by the Israeli invasion of Lebanon - part of which included a slaughter in a refugee camp. So by your logic, that makes retaliation like 9/11 ok.

People like this are the criminals, each retaliating against each other, using the other as justification, instead of having morality.

/facepalm

Read the post next time, instead of rambling off on some idiotic (lulz) tangent.
 

Throckmorton

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Someone explain to me why Panetta, director of the CIA, is telling the media that OBL put his hands up to surrender and was executed by the SEAL.
 

Throckmorton

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Unbelievable. Obama botched killing bin Laden, by releasing at least 3 different stories, each one progressively making America look worse.
Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory once again.
 

ShawnD1

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Unbelievable. Obama botched killing bin Laden, by releasing at least 3 different stories, each one progressively making America look worse.
Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory once again.
lol. Obama is bad at this.

Bush and his krew would paint it as some kind of epic battle where Bin Laden shoots at the US troops then he jumps at one with a knife and it has some kind of struggle or something then the heroic marine (who is now alone btw) kicks Bin Laden away, runs to his gun, and shoots Bin Laden in the head.
 

Throckmorton

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Nevermind, I misread that. He said if OBL put his hands up they were to capture him.

In any case, why would they admit that he was unarmed and didn't pose a threat? Why not just say he resisted capture and leave it at that? Why specify his state of armament?
 

alkemyst

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It's sad when people don't realize the terrorism they hate is the terrorism they are promoting and why the US is so criticized.

The truth is it's not about a shrine, or retribution or any of that. They did not want him talking.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Unbelievable. Obama botched killing bin Laden, by releasing at least 3 different stories, each one progressively making America look worse.
Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory once again.

Yeah, I won't disagree with that. I understand the media screwing things up due to the confusion and trying to get the "scoop," but it is pretty inexcusable for the government to be screwing the pooch like they are.
 

OCGuy

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Someone explain to me why Panetta, director of the CIA, is telling the media that OBL put his hands up to surrender and was executed by the SEAL.

How would this be any different than launching a cruise missle at the compound, where could have easily been killed in his sleep?


Please don't get all bleeding-heart on me know just because a (D) is in power.


Our UAV Hellfires have probably killed people while they are screwing, eating, taking a shit, etc.
 

shiner

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What I want to know is how the motherfucker lost his arms before we got there?

Rabid camel attack would be my guess.....
 

zinfamous

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CHEEZUS CHRIST...

This doesn't make any fricking sense.

Only halfwits or dumb idiots would think that killing him UNARMED (executing, that is) is "the best thing to do"...regardless that there are actually a zillion reasons why it would be beneficial to have him alive.

The only reason to kill/execute him while being UNARMED and not posing a thread is obviously

SO HE CAN'T TALK ANYMORE (because he might say something which might indiscriminate someone...)

Don't you get it? There is not any other logical, single reason to execute the "most wanted terrorist" like that because they already found and caught him. So why execute him?

what does "indiscriminate" mean?

:hmm:
 

zinfamous

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So do the crazies that think America was behind 9/11 also assume Obama is in on it as well? Who is the mastermind behind this whole thing? One minute I hear George W is a diabolical genius, next minute I hear he is probably playing with playdo somewhere while Cheney was the head honcho. I can't keep it all straight.

As an Illinois state senator, Obama obviously had plenty of reason to benefit from the attacks of September 11.

HOW DO YOU NOT SEE THIS????
 

Uhtrinity

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lol. Obama is bad at this.

Bush and his krew would paint it as some kind of epic battle where Bin Laden shoots at the US troops then he jumps at one with a knife and it has some kind of struggle or something then the heroic marine (who is now alone btw) kicks Bin Laden away, runs to his gun, and shoots Bin Laden in the head only to find out months later that OBL was killed by his own friendly fire

Fixed as the Bush krew would have painted it.


Seriously though, people are looking at this too hard to make Obama look bad. Simple fact is that Bin Ladin was justifiably taken down. If there is video of the entire encounter it will backup what the SEAL members are reporting. Supposedly Obama and his staff were watching the encounter as it unfolded live, wasn't this via video feed?