Ossama Bin Laden was not armed.

[cubby1223]

Opponent to the official line are either rejected from
the medias or ridiculed using harsh propagandas..

Just look at Sheen that was branded the village idiot
as soon as he disputed official claims..

Duh! Winning!

Sheen is the village idiot. The media didn't do that to him, he did it to himself.

Where do you get your perspective from?

 

[OutHouse]

Opponent to the official line are either rejected from
the medias or ridiculed using harsh propagandas..

Just look at Sheen that was branded the village idiot
as soon as he disputed official claims..

you have absolutely no idea how American news works do you.

here is a good place to start. the media in the US is NOT owned or produced by the government. Sheen got branded as the village idiot by the people and the press REPORTED it. PLUS its an opinion by writers paid to write its not fact.

if you are any indication of the education in Algeria, no wonder your country is fucked up.

 

[Abwx]

You seem to really struggle to connect coherent thoughts. The US population did not support our troops going into Iraq because of a connection with 9/11. The reason the US went into Iraq was because we had been told, and believed, that there were weapons of mass destruction in that country. In the aftermath, many many people who initially believed going into Iraq was the right thing to do now believe it was wrong - it appears that it was a total failure of our intelligence community and a horrible, horrible mistake.


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Your post is quite long to answer to since there s a lot
of affirmations that are worth responding to, so i ll
take only the first part.

UNO inspectors did prove that there were no WMD,yet
the US went at war..
Contrary to your sayings, there was no intelligence failure
since this very same intelligence work was to fabricate
false evidences to suit the government agenda.

As to call an illegal war that killed scores of innocents
people, i wouldnt call this a mistake but rather a war crime,
but it s up to you to aknowledge the crimes of your
former government, and that says a lot about your
self indulgence and intellectual honnesty...

 

[Abwx]

Duh! Winning!

Sheen is the village idiot. The media didn't do that to him, he did it to himself.

Where do you get your perspective from?

You re just providing some sort of A + B evidence...

So Sheen is an idiot because he disputed the official thesis.??..

 

[MiniDoom]

I know how to play jazz, wich originate from the US ,
now found me a single person in this forum that master
oriental and arabic music as well...

you play an instrument? or play jazz music on a cd player? what are you a master of? america's a very diverse place. i'm a percussionist, among other things. I play instruments from around the world. I have many friends who are musically gifted, some of whom make a living as musicians. Many play music and instruments from around the world. we are all not average joe alabama. many of my friends are from all around the world.

 

[Abwx]

you play an instrument? or play jazz music on a cd player? what are you a master of? america's a very diverse place. i'm a percussionist, among other things. I play instruments from around the world. I have many friends who are musically gifted, some of whom make a living as musicians. Many play music and instruments from around the world. we are all not average joe alabama. many of my friends are from all around the world.

LOLZ..
As soon as you reach the end of your first sentence, you are mocking!!

I m a jazz pianist , though i love more conventionnal styles as funk ,
blues and gospel , but true that i dont like at all country music with
the exception of artists like JJ Cale who is rather country blues style.

Indeed, i played with very good US afro american musicians that came in Europe, and i was proposed by one of them to move to the US
but i just couldnt let down my family and relations, so i declined
the offer..

Other than that, i play algerian arabic modern style that are
different from usual arabic music in the sense that its deeply
rooted in purely african styles as aknowledged by an extensive
use of 6/8 rythmic signatures...

Generaly, i communicate the adress of my myspace music page,
but for some reasons, i wont do it in this site..

BTW ; i m not an Iron Maiden fan, although i did
listen a little when younger, but i just prefer
more conventional hard rock groups, such as Deep Purple..

 

[MiniDoom]

LOLZ..
As soon as you reach the end of your first sentence, you are mocking!!

I m a jazz pianist , though i love more conventionnal styles as funk ,
blues and gospel , but true that i dont like at all country music with
the exception of artists like JJ Cale who is rather country blues style.

Indeed, i played with very good US afro american musicians that came in Europe, and i was proposed by one of them to move to the US
but i just couldnt let down my family and relations, so i declined
the offer..

Other than that, i play algerian arabic modern style that are
different from usual arabic music in the sense that its deeply
rooted in purely african styles as aknowledged by an extensive
use of 6/8 rythmic signatures...

Generaly, i communicate the adress of my myspace music page,
but for some reasons, i wont do it in this site..

BTW ; i m not an Iron Maiden fan, although i did
listen a little when younger, but i just prefer
more conventional hard rock groups, such as Deep Purple..

really? i was just curious about your previous statement. no need to be defensive. i've played drums and congas/percussion since 8. played in jazz bands as well as reggae and go-go (which a mix of jazz, funk, african and rap). I also did about 10 years as a club/rave dj, mixing mostly trance and breaks, some dnb and hiphop. i recently have taken up the bass guitar and sitar.
I listened to some metal/punk growing up in dc (mostly nostalgia now) but versed in many genres of music too.

 

[zinfamous]

Opponent to the official line are either rejected from
the medias or ridiculed using harsh propagandas..

Just look at Sheen that was branded the village idiot
as soon as he disputed official claims..

ah, so now you've installed Charlie Sheen as one of your idols of higher universal truth?

lulz

 

[zinfamous]

Your post is quite long to answer to since there s a lot
of affirmations that are worth responding to, so i ll
take only the first part.

UNO inspectors did prove that there were no WMD,yet
the US went at war..
Contrary to your sayings, there was no intelligence failure
since this very same intelligence work was to fabricate
false evidences to suit the government agenda.

As to call an illegal war that killed scores of innocents
people, i wouldnt call this a mistake but rather a war crime,
but it s up to you to aknowledge the crimes of your
former government, and that says a lot about your
self indulgence and intellectual honnesty...

actually, there was no false intelligence. all of the advice form the CIA concerning Iraq WMD was that there was no varifiable claims as such. Cheney & Co. were advised--explicitly--that the old reports they were using were spurious, at best.

Cheney didn't care. he spanked Bush all the way to Congress to force the issue.

The intelligence was always good. The admins spin it the way they want to spin it.

your ignorance, again. superlative.

 

[zinfamous]

You re just providing some sort of A + B evidence...

So Sheen is an idiot because he disputed the official thesis.??..

No.

Sheen is an idiot because he is an idiot.

 

[Abwx]

really? i was just curious about your previous statement. no need to be defensive. i've played drums and congas/percussion since 8. played in jazz bands as well as reggae and go-go (which a mix of jazz, funk, african and rap). I also did about 10 years as a club/rave dj, mixing mostly trance and breaks, some dnb and hiphop. i recently have taken up the bass guitar and sitar.
I listened to some metal/punk growing up in dc (mostly nostalgia now) but versed in many genres of music too.

Great, i love reggae as well as all the styles you mention.

As for pure rap, i ve got a mixed feeling about it..

As much as i like the first wave that was Grand Master Flash
who were a genuine social critic group , i just dont like the
subsequent evolution that was in fact a regression,
personified mainly by gansta rap, for they are vulgar
and bashing women at will, while promoting an image
of the afro american community that is an insult
to the philosophy of the afro american early jazzmen
philosophy, such as Monk and other Coltrane,
but surely that i m somewhat old fashioned...

Btw : we are somewhat OT, but who cares ?..

 

[zinfamous]

I grew up listening to Coltrane and Monk; playing alto sax.

Coltrane was born in my hometown.

 

[MiniDoom]

Great, i love reggae as well as all the styles you mention.

As for pure rap, i ve got a mixed feeling about it..

As much as i like the first wave that was Grand Master Flash
who were a genuine social critic group , i just dont like the
subsequent evolution that was in fact a regression,
personified mainly by gansta rap, for they are vulgar
and bashing women at will, while promoting an image
of the afro american community that is an insult
to the philosophy of the afro american early jazzmen
philosophy, such as Monk and other Coltrane,
but surely that i m somewhat old fashioned...

Btw : we are somewhat OT, but who cares ?..

I agree. I don't listen to gangster rap. I liked tribe, de la soul, pete rock, jeru and such when i was younger.
btw - this is so much better than p&n.

 

[Abwx]

actually, there was no false intelligence.
The intelligence was always good. The admins spin it the way they want to spin it.

your ignorance, again. superlative.

Learn to read ,poor fool, you re exactly repeating what
i did write...
Dont expect me to answer you next time , you re just too pitifull...

Contrary to your sayings, there was no intelligence failure
since this very same intelligence work was to fabricate
false evidences to suit the government agenda.

 

[zinfamous]

Learn to read ,poor fool, you re exactly repeating what
i did write...
Dont expect me to answer you next time , you re just too pitifull...

you fucking troll: "fabricate false intelligence."

that is exactly what you said.


I said: "the intelligence was perfectly fine; it was the admins that pushed bad intelligence."

they didn't fabricate a god damn thing. they spun it.

learn to process.