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xj0hnx

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How do you make a jew cry? burn a dollar bill!

How do you get banned? Racial insults will do it. Take a few off and relearn our forum posting rules.

Fern
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Awww come on, it funny watching people crying about Bin Laden getting waxed.
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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to add a little more speculation to what went down:

just saw a snip of upcoming 60min Interview with Obama talking about decision not to release the photos. He mentioned teh utter gruesomeness of the image--two wounds above the eyes.

Anderson Cooper summarizes after the clip "massive gaping head wounds on the forehead."

:hmm:

You guys will know better than I, but doesn't that sound like exit wounds? on a 9 mm, anyway, but I suppose SEALs were using MP5 on the assault? I certianly have no idea what that would look like. what say you, ATOT?

I sort of like what this suggests...

:cool:
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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They didn't want to take him alive. They wanted him dead. I doubt they spelled it out like that but that's the truth. And if you believe for a second that he's not dead you need your head examined. It's much easier to prove you're alive in this world than to prove any one person is dead. If Bin Laden were alive he could and would let everybody know just to embarrass the U.S.A. Ain't gonna happen. And Obama was smart to take the advice of his Secretaries of Defense and State and not publish photos of Obama's corpse. He will never regret that decision.
 

zinfamous

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bin Laden's 12 year-old daughter, the one who apparently witnessed his being shot, has said that he was grabbed by the SEALs while alive, dragged into a another room, then shot in front of his family. They then dragged his body out to the choppa.

man...It's easy to assume that it's bullshit, but it wouldn't surprise me. (I don't think SEALs are such cold calculating dudes, but you know, I wouldn't blame them. at the same time, I take this kind of stuff from an adult as a straight up lie, a 12 year-old girl, whoever she is, I don't know. :\)

All of the people in the compound had their hands bound by the SEALs, as reported earlier. Panetta said that direct com between CIA, Admin, and the SEAL team went black for the first 20 minutes, supposedly the time of entry and neutralization of bin Laden.

I love this shit. It sure sounds fucked up, haha. I only hope it is left in the land of speculation.
 

coreyb

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Aug 12, 2007
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That sounds awesome and I hope it's true. Guys like him deserve the worst treatment possible.
 

OlafSicky

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If true this sound like they bound his hands took him to another room probably read him his death sentence and shot him twice in the back of the head. From the description of the wounds it sounds like he has two exit wounds in the front of his head.
 

Zebo

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bin Laden's 12 year-old daughter, the one who apparently witnessed his being shot, has said that he was grabbed by the SEALs while alive, dragged into a another room, then shot in front of his family. They then dragged his body out to the choppa.

man...It's easy to assume that it's bullshit, but it wouldn't surprise me. (I don't think SEALs are such cold calculating dudes, but you know, I wouldn't blame them. at the same time, I take this kind of stuff from an adult as a straight up lie, a 12 year-old girl, whoever she is, I don't know. :\)

All of the people in the compound had their hands bound by the SEALs, as reported earlier. Panetta said that direct com between CIA, Admin, and the SEAL team went black for the first 20 minutes, supposedly the time of entry and neutralization of bin Laden.

I love this shit. It sure sounds fucked up, haha. I only hope it is left in the land of speculation.

Sounds like some good caoching of the girl to me to make us look like sadistic killers. These dudes are the most professional soilders the world has ever seen basically I doubt it. These are not HS dropouts who get a rifle after boot camp but go through years of arduous physiological testing among other things to be sure they can operate independently without embarrassing us. Not to mention a whole squad and officers 40 total there would have to be complicit.

BTW in AQ manual it talks about stuff like this and to say you were tortured every time in US custody so they are just talking the psychological warfare script.
 
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zinfamous

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Sounds like some good caoching of the girl to me to make us look like sadistic killers. These dudes are the most professional soilders the world has ever seen basically I doubt it. These are not HS dropouts who get a rifle after boot camp but go through years of arduous physiological testing among other things to be sure they can operate independently without embarrassing us. Not to mention a whole squad and officers 40 total there would have to be complicit.

BTW in AQ manual it talks about stuff like this and to say you were tortured every time in US custody so they are just talking the psychological warfare script.

yeah, I assumed that to be true. I was just thinking, 12 year old girl, even though I know not to assume that this hellspawn would have any kind of "normal" life, or could assume to have been raised as a non jew-hating piss pot.

Apparently, her name is Sophia--named after one of Muhamet's friends who killed a jew.

How about that.

:D
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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"How About that"...I was thinking that here we have this guy:
Unit_SnakeDoctor.jpg


waltz's into the bedroom, pops OBL in the skull with a double tap and turns to his buddies: "How about that?"

:D
 

flexy

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Sep 28, 2001
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CHEEZUS CHRIST...

This doesn't make any fricking sense.

Only halfwits or dumb idiots would think that killing him UNARMED (executing, that is) is "the best thing to do"...regardless that there are actually a zillion reasons why it would be beneficial to have him alive.

The only reason to kill/execute him while being UNARMED and not posing a thread is obviously

SO HE CAN'T TALK ANYMORE (because he might say something which might indiscriminate someone...)

Don't you get it? There is not any other logical, single reason to execute the "most wanted terrorist" like that because they already found and caught him. So why execute him?
 

IndyColtsFan

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Sep 22, 2007
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Yeah, there is no way the SEALs did what the girl claimed. She has probably been coached to say horrible things to try to make the US look bad. Which, if you think about it, is somewhat comical -- as if dragging bin Laden in and shooting him in front of his family would be more horrendous than flying jets into buildings and killing thousands of innocent people.
 

SAWYER

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So do the crazies that think America was behind 9/11 also assume Obama is in on it as well? Who is the mastermind behind this whole thing? One minute I hear George W is a diabolical genius, next minute I hear he is probably playing with playdo somewhere while Cheney was the head honcho. I can't keep it all straight.
 

IndyColtsFan

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CHEEZUS CHRIST...

This doesn't make any fricking sense.

Only halfwits or dumb idiots would think that killing him UNARMED (executing, that is) is "the best thing to do"...regardless that there are actually a zillion reasons why it would be beneficial to have him alive.

The only reason to kill/execute him while being UNARMED and not posing a thread is obviously

Good reasons have been covered several times already.

SO HE CAN'T TALK ANYMORE (because he might say something which might indiscriminate someone...)

Indiscriminate someone? WTF is that? Do you mean "incriminate"?

Don't you get it? There is not any other logical, single reason to execute the "most wanted terrorist" like that because they already found and caught him. So why execute him?

There are actually many good reasons to just kill him which have been covered in this thread already. Personally, I wouldn't have minded him being captured and interrogated using "enhanced" methods to see what we could get. I wouldn't even be upset if the government lied about him being dead and he was in a secret prison somewhere and this was happening. (NOTE: I am not saying the government is lying; I think he is dead).
 

Craig234

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May 1, 2006
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Yeah, there is no way the SEALs did what the girl claimed. She has probably been coached to say horrible things to try to make the US look bad. Which, if you think about it, is somewhat comical -- as if dragging bin Laden in and shooting him in front of his family would be more horrendous than flying jets into buildings and killing thousands of innocent people.

What is it with idiots who compare what a criminal does with how police or military should act?

'Our military raped their 12 year old daughter'.

'Ya? Well the bad guys raped 4 *8* year olds, so it wasn't as bad! That'll teach em!'

9/11 was said to be inspired by the Israeli invasion of Lebanon - part of which included a slaughter in a refugee camp. So by your logic, that makes retaliation like 9/11 ok.

People like this are the criminals, each retaliating against each other, using the other as justification, instead of having morality.
 

rudder

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U.S. v. Bin Laden, 58 F.Supp.2d 113 (S.D.N.Y. Jun. 30, 1999)
U.S. v. Laden, 92 F.Supp.2d 189 (S.D.N.Y. Mar. 13, 2000)
U.S. v. Bin Laden, 92 F.Supp.2d 225 (S.D.N.Y. Mar 15, 2000)
U.S. v. Bin Laden, 91 F.Supp.2d 600 (S.D.N.Y. Mar 30, 2000)
U.S. v. Bin Laden, 109 F.Supp.2d 211 (S.D.N.Y. Aug. 17, 2000)
U.S. v. Bin Laden, 116 F.Supp.2d 489 (S.D.N.Y. Oct. 5, 2000)
U.S. v. Bin Laden, 126 F.Supp.2d 264 (S.D.N.Y. Dec. 5, 2000)
U.S. v. Bin Laden, 126 F.Supp.2d 256 (S.D.N.Y. Dec. 11, 2000)
U.S. v. Bin Laden, 2001 WL 30061 (S.D.N.Y. Jan. 2, 2001)
U.S. v. Bin Laden, 126 F.Supp.2d 290 (S.D.N.Y. Jan. 2, 2001)
U.S. v. Bin Laden, 2001 WL 66393 (S.D.N.Y. Jan. 25, 2001)
U.S. v. Bin Laden, 2001 WL 66314 (S.D.N.Y. Jan. 26, 2001)
U.S. v. Bin Laden, 2001 WL 102338 (S.D.N.Y. Feb. 6, 2001)
U.S. v. Bin Laden, 132 F.Supp.2d 168 (S.D.N.Y. Feb. 16, 2001)
U.S. v. Bin Laden, 132 F.Supp.2d 198 (S.D.N.Y. Feb. 16, 2001)
U.S. v. Laden, 2001 WL 263382 (S.D.N.Y. Mar. 14, 2001)
U.S. v. Laden, 2001 WL 276714 (S.D.N.Y. Mar. 20, 2001)
U.S. v. Laden, 2001 WL 310614 (S.D.N.Y. Mar. 30, 2001)
U.S. v. Bin Laden, 146 F.Supp.2d 373 (S.D.N.Y. May 29, 2001)
U.S. v. Bin Laden, 156 F.Supp.2d 359 (S.D.N.Y. Jul. 23, 2001)
U.S. v. Bin Laden, 160 F.Supp.2d 670 (S.D.N.Y. Aug. 24, 2001)
U.S. v. Bin Laden, 2001 WL 1160604 (S.D.N.Y. Oct. 02, 2001)
U.S. v. Bin Laden, 2005 WL 287404 (S.D.N.Y. Feb. 7, 2005)
U.S. v. Bin Laden, 397 F.Supp.2d 465 (S.D.N.Y. Nov. 2, 2005) (KTD))

osama involvement in conspiring to kill U.S. nationals is well documented already. he admitted his actions on tape. What point would there be to a trial?
 

xj0hnx

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Dec 18, 2007
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If true this sound like they bound his hands took him to another room probably read him his death sentence and shot him twice in the back of the head. From the description of the wounds it sounds like he has two exit wounds in the front of his head.

Possibly why they don't want to release the pictures.

Personally I think the White House should have waited at least until all the SEALs had been debriefed before releasing the news, that way there wouldn't be changing stories, and they could have gotten out from in front of the train if it turns out orders were for a summary execution.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Sep 22, 2007
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What is it with idiots who compare what a criminal does with how police or military should act?

What is it with idiots who can't comprehend simple text? You've cornered the market on idiocy, so feel free to enlighten us.

'Our military raped their 12 year old daughter'.

'Ya? Well the bad guys raped 4 *8* year olds, so it wasn't as bad! That'll teach em!'

9/11 was said to be inspired by the Israeli invasion of Lebanon - part of which included a slaughter in a refugee camp. So by your logic, that makes retaliation like 9/11 ok.

People like this are the criminals, each retaliating against each other, using the other as justification, instead of having morality.

Please reread my comment and while you're at it, specifically point to where I said either activity would be acceptable. You can't, so as usual, you're full of hot air. If you need help understanding the meaning of my comment, I can get the crayons out and try to draw pictures for you. HINT: I didn't say either was OK, I was just pointing out the irony in their thought process given the crimes they committed.

You probably believe their claims too. Here is a much needed clue for you -- she isn't telling the truth.
 
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Genx87

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Apr 8, 2002
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Tears are still welling up in my eyes over OBL being killed. He should be so lucky to have been capped twice in the back of the head if this story has any merit. They could had done what him and his radical ilk do to the others. Sawed his worthless head off with a dull butter knife while chanting USA USA USA.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
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The gentlemanly thing would have been for one of the SEALS to challenge him to a duel.
 

IndyColtsFan

Lifer
Sep 22, 2007
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Tears are still welling up in my eyes over OBL being killed. He should be so lucky to have been capped twice in the back of the head if this story has any merit. They could had done what him and his radical ilk do to the others. Sawed his worthless head off with a dull butter knife while chanting USA USA USA.

Careful now -- Craig will go off on a completely unrelated tangent and call you an idiot.