Ossama Bin Laden was not armed.

[xj0hnx]

It was reported he was found to be there LAST AUGUST. You can bet the day of the report, they already had a mission plan in place and a team, and they started briefing and training whatever team they were going to send in the day they got that report. It was also reported they quickly built a replica compound to train in and then spent months training in it. You honestly believe they would do all that planning and training when all they wanted to do was kill him and all they had to do was simply drop or plant bombs in the compound to achieve that?

Yes, they would. For a couple reasons, one to ensure that he is killed, not with a bomb, and then months later have Pakistan let us know if they found his remains, but to put American eyes on the bullet as it enters his skull, and two, to gather whatever intel is on site. It would take time, and intel to replicate the compound, you can bet that the replica changed as intel came in. There are many factors to take into consideration, operations like that don't happen over night. It doesn't take almost a year to train to take someone alive.

 

[zinfamous]

Me either. I'd say that the hard copy info they retrieve from the computers, and other items taken from the compound will have more intel than Bin Laden could possibly keep in his head, and tell interrogators. Other that, him alive is a liability.

far, far, far more dangerous alive than dead.

none of these assclows will alloy themselves to entertain what would happen were bin Laden in federal custody. the jihadists coming out of the word work carrying out their orders to do "God Knows What" to force the US to hand him over.

it further baffles me that many seem to ignore the fact this is a war time action. (yes, some have acknowledge that, at least), but this certainly does not seem to be in violation of Geneva.

the only issue, now, is wtf is going on with Pakistan?

 

[shiner]

Yes, they would. For a couple reasons, one to ensure that he is killed, not with a bomb, and then months later have Pakistan let us know if they found his remains, but to put American eyes on the bullet as it enters his skull, and two, to gather whatever intel is on site. It would take time, and intel to replicate the compound, you can bet that the replica changed as intel came in. There are many factors to take into consideration, operations like that don't happen over night. It doesn't take almost a year to train to take someone alive.

and third, for the lulz.

 

[zinfamous]

It was reported he was found to be there LAST AUGUST. You can bet the day of the report, they already had a mission plan in place and a team, and they started briefing and training whatever team they were going to send in the day they got that report. It was also reported they quickly built a replica compound to train in and then spent months training in it. You honestly believe they would do all that planning and training when all they wanted to do was kill him and all they had to do was simply drop or plant bombs in the compound to achieve that?

NO.

it was reported that the COMPOUND WAS DISCOVERED last August.

All that was known, was that a high value target was there.

Please, do speculate on how intel would be able to verify beyond doubt that this was, in fact, the hiding place of OBL without seriously compromising their presence?

It has only been reported that they had very strong reason to believe that this was OBL, and at the very least, and extremely high priority target. The first time it was known, beyond doubt, BY ANYONE, that OBL was in this compound, was when SEAL Six placed their justice-serving instruments of death at his bedroom door.

 

[Abwx]

you train to execute the mission in such a way to reduce, as mush as possible, the likelihood of losing a single man on your squad.

lol at you.

The guy made a good point, wether he s right or not.

10 months training ???..
Did they recruit rookies to do the job ?..

 

[xj0hnx]

The guy made a good point, wether he s right or not.

10 months training ???..
Did they recruit rookies to do the job ?..

No, he didn't make a good point, he made a stupid assumption, and you jumping on his nuts proves you are as ignorant as he is.

 

[shiner]

The guy made a good point, wether he s right or not.

10 months training ???..
Did they recruit rookies to do the job ?..

 

[zinfamous]

One of the senators said she knew about the compound for months. They even set up a mockup of the compound to train. It wasn't a spur of the moment thing.

here is the timeline of discovery that has been revealed--

--August 2010: compound discovered by US intel, after tracking known OBL couriers over several years. (satellite images backtraced the building of the compound to 2005, when it was a vacant field prior. further reports suggest that it was once used as ISI safehouse. WHOOPS)

--February: intel gathered on details of compound: crazy high walls, double gates, no internet/phone access, trash being burned in courtyard. very few people entering and exiting. at some point, grainy images of very tall durka durk similar to OBL were gathered.

--last Friday: Obama convinced that intel is actionable. Approves mission.

--Sunday: Obama authorizes start of mission.

It has been said, repeatedly and non-conflictingly, that it was never confirmed who was in the compound until the SEALs arrived.

I'm only repeating what has been revealed. It is FUCKING STUPID for any of us to assume what we know exactly what happened, how it happened, and what was truly known by US intel before, when, and how.

For all we know, the timeline is completely fabricated to a shorter time, allowing sources to gather and move on other high priority targets. The last thing you want to do is compromise any other operations involving the other top al Qaeda dingelberries

 

[zinfamous]

It was reported he was found to be there LAST AUGUST. You can bet the day of the report, they already had a mission plan in place and a team, and they started briefing and training whatever team they were going to send in the day they got that report. It was also reported they quickly built a replica compound to train in and then spent months training in it. You honestly believe they would do all that planning and training when all they wanted to do was kill him and all they had to do was simply drop or plant bombs in the compound to achieve that?

also, it was revealed that SEALs were not told who their target was until the day of the mission.

They heard OBL and were like, "Fuck yeah!"

 

[bfdd]

Me either. I'd say that the hard copy info they retrieve from the computers, and other items taken from the compound will have more intel than Bin Laden could possibly keep in his head, and tell interrogators. Other that, him alive is a liability.

He's more valuable dead than alive. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a moron.

 

[zinfamous]

The guy made a good point, wether he s right or not.

10 months training ???..
Did they recruit rookies to do the job ?..

no. these are the best damn soldiers on the face of the planet without doubt. Preparation and commitment to the task is half the reason why.

 

[bfdd]

The guy made a good point, wether he s right or not.

10 months training ???..
Did they recruit rookies to do the job ?..

lol.... you're foreign so I'm guessing you've never heard the phrase "practice makes perfect" they spent that much time practicing so they could execute perfectly. Which they did. Did we lose anyone? Nope. Is the target dead? Yep. All around a success.

 

[Abwx]

lol...." they spent that much time practicing so they could execute perfectly. Which they did. Did we lose anyone? .

They didn t loose men because there was only a woman
and her daughter and four disarmed men, not because
of the training or their qualities...

Think a little...

 

[zinfamous]

guys, no reason to respond to the troll.

 

[bfdd]

They didn t loose men because there was only a woman
and her daughter and four disarmed men, not because
of the training or their qualities...

Think a little...

Whatever you say buddy. They didn't lose anyone because they were prepared. You obviously don't know the first thing about war.

 

[sportage]

Ossama Bin Laden was not armed

Yeah but he had realy really bad breath.

 

[Abwx]

guys, no reason to respond to the troll.

LOLZ....

You know that i m right on this point , thus your pitifull advice...

 

[Abwx]

Whatever you say buddy. They didn't lose anyone because they were prepared. You obviously don't know the first thing about war.

That is blatant intellectual dishonnesty...
Since they were 40 or so, even they would have gone only with their hands, they could have killed him without any loss...

 

[zinfamous]

LOLZ....

You know that i m right on this point , thus your pitifull advice...

you have displayed only your lack of education.

are you DVK McTrollface, btw?

 

[zinfamous]

That is blatant intellectual dishonnesty...
Since they were 40 or so, even they would have gone only with their hands, they could have killed him without any loss...

where are you getting this BS? 20 unit squad, max, iirc. The reports say up to 30 people were found int eh compound.

you are fucking liar and a piece of shit.

 

[wirednuts]

You idiot, I'm an Obama supporter. He botched this plain and simple. He told one story, then another, then let Panetta give yet another. The admin admitted that a SEAL shot OBL even though he was unarmed.

I hope when that SEAL goes on trial in an international court, Obama personally serves as his defense attorney.

Haven't you seen the picture of Obama and his staff watching the god damn video?

bin laden deserved to die. go ahead and put the seal on trial, he will be acquitted. pakistan is who should be put on international trial, they harbored the highest value terrorist in the world for a decade, taking billions of dollars in donations to do so.

 

[wirednuts]

also, bin laden was wanted dead or alive. the reason they set up for months instead of just bombing the place was because they couldnt risk not identifying the remains. if they did it WWII style, bin laden would live on in some sort of mythology like hitler did.

they way they did it is perfect. they basically owned that son of a bitch in all aspects. the only better scenario would have been a seal beating bin laden to death with his bear hands- which i wish they would have done. time is of the essence though.

 

[Abwx]

where are you getting this BS? 20 unit squad, max, iirc. The reports say up to 30 people were found int eh compound.

you are fucking liar and a piece of shit.

Tell this to your gov. that did present 3 versions in 48 hours..

They said 4 copters at least were used..

As for the insults, it says a lot about some US people
inner mentality that is full of dirt...

No other people on earth use as much vulgarity
in his daily language, for sure..

 

[bfdd]

That is blatant intellectual dishonnesty...
Since they were 40 or so, even they would have gone only with their hands, they could have killed him without any loss...

They didn't have to. They were well prepared. Hence the reason no loses on our side and heavy loses on theirs. Like I said you do not understand war at all. You ALWAYS have more fire power than your enemy, you ALWAYS prepare better than the enemy and you NEVER underestimate an enemy. This is why they went in and cleared it the way they did. They were prepared.

 

[Abwx]

They didn't have to. They were well prepared. Hence the reason no loses on our side and heavy loses on theirs. Like I said you do not understand war at all. You ALWAYS have more fire power than your enemy, you ALWAYS prepare better than the enemy and you NEVER underestimate an enemy. This is why they went in and cleared it the way they did. They were prepared.

You keep on running in cercles...
Of course that they were prepared to fight an armed opposition,
but the fact that they had no losses is due to the enemy
being disarmed, that was the point i was talking about.
Indeed, military personal is fully aware of the risks that
there can be unexpected facts on the ground whatever
the level of preparation.
What about if the home was booby trapped with explosives,
what would have been the plan B ?..
Well surely to procede to an air force bombing...

To negate it, one has to be either dishonnest intellectualy
or being subject to false pride or simply both...