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Jaskalas

Jaskalas

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Dr. Siegel was likely referring to the Antichrist.
No one else would be cheered for performing the OPPOSITE actions of EVERYTHING their own party has ALWAYS professed to be sacred cows.

Greatest tax hike in American history. Check.
Fema Camps. Check.
Military on our streets. Check.
Political weaponizing of our government. Check.

That list is just going to keep growing. Republicans have no morals or principles. Surrendered them all to become MAGA Nazis.
 
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Pens1566

Pens1566

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K1052 said:
He’s still got the bruises on his hand badly covered with makeup. Whatever is going on if you’re suddenly getting regular infusions everything is probably not entirely “ok”.
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I'm not convinced the hand bruising is from access injuries. Unless there's no other place for them to go.

But either way, it's not a great sign.
 
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fskimospy

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pmv said:
Something slightly disturbing about this

uk.yahoo.com

'Ridiculous And Pathetic': Fox News Doc Ripped For 'Gaslighting' On Trump's Health

Dr. Marc Siegel had an over-the-top defense of the president, who is facing growing questions about his health.
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Leaving aside the fact that he does use a teleprompter, and that the notion that he 'talks clearly' merits a Spock-level eyebrow raise, it also strikes me that the notion that he 'mesmerizes' his entourage and followers was exactly what was said about a certain other historical leader. That exact word gets used again-and-again in historical accounts and biographies of that guy.
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It also seems to, uhm, not be true. From my understanding it is very common even for the true believers who attend his rallies to leave early because it gets boring.

I think these sorts of statements and things like his cabinet meetings are best understood as North Korea style performative lying. The bigger the lie the more humiliation for the person making it and the bigger statement of fealty. The more of those you get the more Trump likes it.
 
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K1052

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So anybody want to talk about how we are doing Sicario: Operation Clear and Present Danger in Venezuela.
 
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fskimospy

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K1052 said:
So anybody want to talk about how we are doing Sicario: Operation Clear and Present Danger in Venezuela.
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It is kind of amazing that this is literally the plot of a Tom Clancy book but that book was so naive as to think the President would feel the need to conceal the fact that the US military is murdering drug producers because it was both illegal and reprehensible.
 
Paratus

Paratus

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Haven’t been paying attention. Are we bombing “drug sites” or do we have special forces attacking “drug sites” in Venezuela.
 
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K1052

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fskimospy said:
We are having the military strike ships they suspect of having drugs on board. The incident in question is where apparently eleven people on a ship were killed in a situation where the boat was no threat to anyone.

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The WH isn't even bothering to quote an authority under which this is legal also. So basically we're killing people who may or may not be TDA without legal authorization of any kind to produce clips for Trump to show off on Fox News. Since the admin has consistently lied about people belonging to TDA in the past I don't see why we should give them the benefit of the doubt here. Basically doing international crime for content.
 
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fskimospy

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K1052 said:
The WH isn't even bothering to quote an authority under which this is legal also. So basically we're killing people who may or may not be TDA without legal authorization of any kind to produce clips for Trump to show off on Fox News. Since the admin has consistently lied about people belonging go TDA in the past I don't see why we should give them the benefit of the doubt here. Basically doing international crime for content.
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Yes, important to note that even if the WH description of these individuals is 100% accurate it's still a crime to kill them when they pose no threat to anyone.
 
K1052

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fskimospy said:
Yes, important to note that even if the WH description of these individuals is 100% accurate it's still a crime to kill them when they pose no threat to anyone.
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Just saw that Rubio says the boat was not warned before the US blew it up nor was it confirmed that there were narcotics even aboard. A cabinet official just straight up confessed to the US perpetrating a dozen murders.
 
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MomentsofSanity

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K1052 said:
Just saw that Rubio says the boat was not warned before the US blew it up nor was it confirmed that there were narcotics even aboard. A cabinet official just straight up confessed to the US perpetrating a dozen murders.
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And the right cheered.

Starting to feel like dropping grenades into tunnels is the next logical step...
 
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fskimospy

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K1052 said:
Just saw that Rubio says the boat was not warned before the US blew it up nor was it confirmed that there were narcotics even aboard. A cabinet official just straight up confessed to the US perpetrating a dozen murders.
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Even if they were warned you still can't just kill them unless they pose a threat to someone and they very obviously did not in that moment.

I have literal firsthand knowledge of these operations as I took part in them when I was in the Navy. We know how to capture these ships and do it all the time. Number of people my ship killed? Zero.

It was a dumb idea when my ship did it as it's a huge waste of resources but at least we operated in a legal manner.
 
K1052

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MomentsofSanity said:
And the right cheered.

Starting to feel like dropping grenades into tunnels is the next logical step...
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I feel like the people who think this is a good idea missed the part of the movie where the cartel wiped out a bunch of high ranking US federal officials.
 
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fskimospy said:
Even if they were warned you still can't just kill them unless they pose a threat to someone and they very obviously did not in that moment.

I have literal firsthand knowledge of these operations as I took part in them when I was in the Navy. We know how to capture these ships and do it all the time. Number of people my ship killed? Zero.
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The official US government position is that these people were killed on the president's direct order. That he had the option to interdict but chose to engage instead.
 
Brainonska511

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fskimospy said:
Yes, important to note that even if the WH description of these individuals is 100% accurate it's still a crime to kill them when they pose no threat to anyone.
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Also, they could have had the US Coast Guard interdict if they came into US waters, because they do that all the fucking time without issue. No need to commit murder for views.
 
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