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K1052

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The boat was identified as a cartel boat that has been designated as a foreign terrorist organization.

Targeted attacks against terrorist organizations is not unknown and has been used by the past several administrations.
I really fear what next this regime will do.


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Since this admin has lied over and over again about people belonging to TDA I am less than comfortable with it just blowing shit up that it says belongs to TDA especially if it is full of people.
 

Brovane

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Since this admin has lied over and over again about people belonging to TDA I am less than comfortable with it just blowing shit up that it says belongs to TDA especially if it is full of people.

It was the Biden Administration that managed to target and kill a Afghan aid worker and nine members of his family with a drone strike in Kabul. I suspect the current regime is going to be worse.
 

K1052

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It was the Biden Administration that managed to target and kill a Afghan aid worker and nine members of his family with a drone strike in Kabul. I suspect the current regime is going to be worse.

Compared to previous admins the Biden admin virtually ended the drone strike program. Afganistan is also at least arguably covered under the 2001 AUMF. There is nothing authorizing the government to blow up boats in the Caribbean that it says are cartel boats.



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kage69

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Disgusting.

They weren't a threat. They weren't interdicted. They weren't given any warnings to heave to. Just executed with a Hellfire.

Seems to me Cadet Bonespurs and Whiskey Pete weren't interested in an interdiction, this was to be a PR production. They used the lives of 11 people as a commercial for their poser 'tough guy' agenda, also another news item to get people to stop talking about Epstein.

Narcotics are very valuable, it's why they tend to be sent via drug submaraine for long distance hauls, and with as few people involved as possible. A boat full of people, with cargo haphazardly about the deck with the passengers? To me that smacks of an ocean going coyote, smuggling people - which has proven more lucrative than narcotics for years.

He doesn't care about people being exterminated in Gaza or Ukraine, why should the Carribean be any different?
 
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nakedfrog

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Disgusting.

They weren't a threat. They weren't interdicted. They weren't given any warnings to heave to. Just executed with a Hellfire.

Seems to me Cadet Bonespurs and Whiskey Pete weren't interested in an interdiction, this was to be a PR production. They used the lives of 11 people as a commercial for their poser 'tough guy' agenda, also another news item to get people to stop talking about Epstein.

Narcotics are very valuable, it's why they tend to be sent via drug submaraine for long distance hauls, and with as few people involved as possible. A boat full of people, with cargo haphazardly about the deck with the passengers? To me that smacks of an ocean going coyote, smuggling people - which has proven more lucrative than narcotics for years.

He doesn't care about people being exterminated in Gaza or Ukraine, why should the Carribean be any different?
Don't forget the children who've probably starved to death or gone blind since USAID was gutted.
 

Brovane

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So you agree that we should reduce the power of the executive, below the point at which they can choose to extrajudicially kill people?

Yes, there should be better oversight around drone strikes and this type of targeted killing. Who knows what next will be designated a terrorist group.
 

Brovane

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LOL! How many times have you been lied to and you still accept the lies? “Terrorist” is a propaganda label, not an actual thing.

It is a legal term that makes people feel better about the drone strikes.
 
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It is a legal term that makes people feel better about the drone strikes.
The US has been interdicting drug vessels for decades with the US Coast Guard. Why did it suddenly need to use lethal force under no existing statutory authority? And why are you suddenly so willing to take the word of who these people were from the administration that lies about literally everything?

I bet you hand your wallet over to the wallet inspector too.
 

Brovane

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The US has been interdicting drug vessels for decades with the US Coast Guard. Why did it suddenly need to use lethal force under no existing statutory authority? And why are you suddenly so willing to take the word of who these people were from the administration that lies about literally everything?

I bet you hand your wallet over to the wallet inspector too.
Who said I take the word of this administration that it was a terrorist boat that needs to be targeted?
 
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Who said I take the word of this administration that it was a terrorist boat that needs to be targeted?
IDK, maybe because I read your posts?
The boat was identified as a cartel boat that has been designated as a foreign terrorist organization.

Targeted attacks against terrorist organizations is not unknown and has been used by the past several administrations.
Who is doing the identifying the boat as a cartel boat?
 
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you2

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The problem here is that the admin really doesn't care either way and if they might have murdered some migrants so much the better in their estimation.

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THIS is the issue; they have no clue who was on the boat; they didn't bother to intercept or check or verify. They simply blew it up and made vague claims.

Anyway the drug problem in USA isn't the cartel it is the damn buyers.