Orange stain second term results thread

[nakedfrog]

You are the one that said that we wouldn't be talking about illegal immigration today if walls worked.

Securing the border with physical walls is just one part of a solution for illegal immigration. Along with reforms to the immigration system. Have we implemented reforms to the immigration system? No, so we still have a problem with illegal immigration because politicians would rather not solve the problem. Clear example of that is when Trump deliberately scuttled attempts last year to reform the system.

The question that I have, do you think the US should have no physical border wall/Fences/Barriers at all along the US border?

Why no mention of harsher punishments for those found employing undocumented workers?

 

[VashHT]

There are probably a literal handful of people that have argued for absolutely no wall. It's effectively a straw man argument. I don't think anyone has an issue with a fencing of some kind where you also have border checkpoints and whatnot on both sides of the border.

A border wall stretching through uninhabited desert is a huge waste of money and resources and is horribly damaging to migratory species and the environment (like when they rip up saguoro that are 100+ years old [they only tend to get their first "arm" around 75-100 years of age]). It's also especially stupid when most people are coming through legal crossings.

It wouldn't be such an issue if we didn't have a horribly broken-by-Republicans immigration system that requires people fill out huge amounts of paperwork and wait years for resolutions. We should be making it easier for people to immigrate here - both those that want to stay after being educated here, and those that simply want to make a better life for themselves. I welcome people that have the want to enrich my country culturally and economically, and I also think it's a moral imperative that we try and help those fleeing economic, social, and political persecution.

It's like the people who claim Biden supported open borders and was waving illegal immigrants into the country, the borders were definitely not "wide open" and I've never heard anyone support open borders, but right wing morons claim all liberals support it.

 

[nakedfrog]

It's like the people who claim Biden supported open borders and was waving illegal immigrants into the country, the borders were definitely not "wide open" and I've never heard anyone support open borders, but right wing morons claim all liberals support it.

It's mostly the far leftists who support it, the ones that take being referred to as a liberal as an insult.

 

[you2]

Our lawless president displays his best:

Trump threatens ‘harsh measures’ if convicted GOP election denier Tina Peters not freed

President Trump on Thursday re-upped his call for Colorado to free Tina Peters, a state election official who was convicted of multiple felonies after breaching voting equipment in the 2020 election, warning he would take “harsh measures” if she is not released. “FREE TINA PETERS, a brave and...

www.yahoo.com

 

[nakedfrog]

"Please commit all the election fraud you can in 2026, and I'll take care of you"
Same as pardoning the J6 insurrectionists.

 

[fskimospy]

"Please commit all the election fraud you can in 2026, and I'll take care of you"
Same as pardoning the J6 insurrectionists.

He is definitely signaling as hard as he can that crimes committed on his behalf will not be punished.

 

[JD50]

It's like the people who claim Biden supported open borders and was waving illegal immigrants into the country, the borders were definitely not "wide open" and I've never heard anyone support open borders, but right wing morons claim all liberals support it.

"The borders were wide open, here's pictures of people being detained by border patrol agents at check points on the border to prove it" - conservatives

 

[you2]

"Please commit all the election fraud you can in 2026, and I'll take care of you"
Same as pardoning the J6 insurrectionists.

That is why they must be prosecuted under state laws

 

[pcgeek11]

"The borders were wide open, here's pictures of people being detained by border patrol agents at check points on the border to prove it" - conservatives

Catch and release....

 

[nakedfrog]

Why do you bother catching someone if the border is open?

 

[brycejones]

Catch and release....

Weird how conservatives hate due process for immigrants.

 

[fskimospy]

Weird how conservatives hate due process for immigrants.

And remember, Democrats and Senate Republicans came up with a bill to address exactly this issue, giving greater enforcement funding as well as additional resources to process claims quickly and then Republicans in the House torpedoed it and refused to allow it up for a vote out of fears it would pass.

It's been their MO for years to complain about immigration and then actively thwart any attempt to address immigration. It's because they like it as a campaign issue more than they like fixing problems.

 

[gothuevos]

And remember, Democrats and Senate Republicans came up with a bill to address exactly this issue, giving greater enforcement funding as well as additional resources to process claims quickly and then Republicans in the House torpedoed it and refused to allow it up for a vote out of fears it would pass.

It's been their MO for years to complain about immigration and then actively thwart any attempt to address immigration. It's because they like it as a campaign issue more than they like fixing problems.

Waited too long.

 

[fskimospy]

Waited too long.

Got it, Peter Schiff.

 

[Paratus]

Catch and release....

No matter how the media pushes the narrative, showing up to the US border and being released to follow the immigration process does not make these immigrants criminals nor an invading army.

 

[JD50]

Catch and release....

It took you two days to come up with that? Let me guess, none of them show up for their court dates, and you're gonna use pictures of ICE arresting people at court to prove it?