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Muse

Muse

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Paratus said:
I enjoyed the movie 2001 more after reading the novel. Conversely I enjoyed the novels of LOTR more after watching the movies.
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I enjoyed the movie 2001 the first time in large part because I wanted to know if it conveyed the novel, in particular the ending, a tall task. I didn't have that incentive the next times I watched it. All in all I think I've seen it 3 times. I didn't revisit the LOTR novels after seeing the movies.
 
Muse

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pmv said:
It wasn't a novel, it was a short story, no? Moron right back at you.

(Though, come to think of it, he subsequently wrote a novelisation of the movie, I think? Was really into SF as a child, but not so much later in life)
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Back at ya, moron-philistine. It was a novel, not a SS. :rolleyes:
 
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Muse said:
Back at ya, moron-philistine. It was a novel, not a SS. :rolleyes:
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Nope, it was a short story "The Sentinel" . The novel came _after_ the movie. I read a lot of AC Clarke as a kid (that and Asimov and James Blish), was a bit of a geek, but lost interest in SF as I got older.

The movie was arguably kind of boring but maybe could be seen as a kind of work of conceptual art rather than a typical SF movie.

The lack of interesting human characters was, I've read, supposed to be a sort of comment on the dehumanised nature of technological man.

All very Neitzchean, apparently.

It looked awesome though - seeing it cold on a big screen, from the better-than-planet-of-the-apes ape costumes, through to the relatively-realistic depiction of space travel, and the very-1960s "acid trip" finale, and the sheer multi-millennia scope of it all, I remember finding it fantastic as a child (who, IIRC, had read things like Rendeovouz with Rama and Childhood's End at that point - not sure the novelisation of the movie had been published yet).


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2001: A Space Odyssey (novel) - Wikipedia

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2001: A Space Odyssey is a 1968 science fiction novel by British writer Arthur C. Clarke. It was developed concurrently with Stanley Kubrick's film version and published after the release of the film. Clarke and Kubrick worked on the book together, but eventually only Clarke ended up as the official author. The story is based in part on various short stories by Clarke, including "The Sentinel" (written in 1948 for a BBC competition, but first published in 1951 under the title "Sentinel of Eternity").
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UNCjigga

UNCjigga

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Team Trump are really doing a number on our military academies, eliminating civilian teaching positions and making it harder to offer the programs necessary to maintain accreditation. The only people comfortable speaking out about this are the ones who’ve resigned.

www.koaa.com

Air Force Academy civilian professor speaks out after resignation as leadership attempts to fill vacancies

It remains unclear how many Air Force Academy (USAFA) civilian faculty members have resigned this year, but Professor Brian Johns is among the ranks.
www.koaa.com www.koaa.com

Enshittification of every public and private federally funded and staffed institution across the country isn’t a bug—it’s a feature Team Trump campaigned on!

No seriously—just think of anything that remotely touches the Executive Branch and google it with the keyword ‘Trump’ and filter it for news.

Example: Google ‘Tennessee Valley Authority Trump’

Results:

Trump Is Trying to Steamroll the Tennessee Valley Authority
Earlier this week, the White House told the board of America’s largest public-energy provider to fire the CEO, or be fired.
www.theatlantic.com

Trump Is Trying to Steamroll the Tennessee Valley Authority

Earlier this week, the White House told the board of America’s largest public-energy provider to fire the CEO, or be fired.
www.theatlantic.com www.theatlantic.com

Trump appoints Lee Beaman to TVA Board despite alleged abuse, election scandals, and secretive political ties
energyandpolicy.org

Trump appoints Lee Beaman to TVA Board despite alleged abuse, election scandals, and secretive political ties

President Trump nominated Lee Beaman, Republican mega-donor and the subject of sexual misconduct allegations, to the board of TVA.
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Hands off the TVA: White House Considering Assault on 10,000 IBEW Jobs
ibew.org

Hands off the TVA: White House Considering Assault on 10,000 IBEW Jobs

The IBEW is alarmed by reports the Trump administration is looking to privatize the Tennessee Valley Authority and is calling on members of Congress and officials throughout the Deep South to resist such a move. “The TVA is the primary reason the Deep South became the economic force it is...
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This isn’t Team Trump anymore. It’s Team Treason. This is what someone intent on destroying America would be doing if they were somehow lucky enough to be elected.
 
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Jaskalas

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UNCjigga said:
This isn’t Team Trump anymore. It’s Team Treason. This is what someone intent on destroying America would be doing if they were somehow lucky enough to be elected.
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And joe blow will not start shooting until the damage is done, and irreparable. The second amendment is a joke as fascism runs free.
Institutions make a Constitutional Republic, a Democracy. When we no longer have them, we will no longer have a nation, or meaningful elections.
It will be far too late before we act against this evil.
 
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gothuevos said:
See ya mail in voting.

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This has been the plan all along. Eliminate mail-in ballots and revert back to a hard count of paper ballots. Oh and remember your count has to be submitted by midnight on election night and it’s too bad if your urban polling location is understaffed or runs out of ballots due to state legislatures captured by the GOP. Don’t be surprised to see early voting targeted too.

Just waiting for SCOTUS to rule that states no longer have the right to govern their own election policies and GOP congresscritters to turn another blind eye to the erosion of states’ rights under Trump.
 
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Pens1566

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Jaskalas said:
And joe blow will not start shooting until the damage is done, and irreparable. The second amendment is a joke as fascism runs free.
Institutions make a Constitutional Republic, a Democracy. When we no longer have them, we will no longer have a nation, or meaningful elections.
It will be far too late before we act against this evil.
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It's always been a complete bullshit argument that the 2nd could be used against a (modern) tyrannical govt takeover. Bonus points that it's been proven out by the exact demographic constantly clamoring for it being in the front of the bootlicking line.
 
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gothuevos

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UNCjigga said:
This has been the plan all along. Eliminate mail-in ballots and revert back to a hard count of paper ballots. Oh and remember your count has to be submitted by midnight on election night and it’s too bad if your urban polling location is understaffed or runs out of ballots due to state legislatures captured by the GOP. Don’t be surprised to see early voting targeted too.

Just waiting for SCOTUS to rule that states no longer have the right to govern their own election policies and GOP congresscritters to turn another blind eye to the erosion of states’ rights under Trump.
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Oh well.

They can lord over whatever husk remains after the next few years.
 
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Brainonska511

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Brainonska511 said:
If you're a moron: don't capitulate in advance.

This executive order is tantamount to Michael Scott "Declaring Bankruptcy" or any other Trump social media post. He has not authority or power, and thus his power only comes along when people agree to not tell him to piss up a rope.
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Yes, the correct response to this every time is "Fuck you, make me".
 
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Trump taking advice from Putin on the framework of democracy and the art of putting down a ballot.

Dont go quietly into the night gentlemen, dont go quiet. SCREAM for fucks sake. And kick and punch.

 
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gothuevos

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Brainonska511 said:
If you're a moron: don't capitulate in advance.

This executive order is tantamount to Michael Scott "Declaring Bankruptcy" or any other Trump social media post. He has not authority or power, and thus his power only comes along when people agree to not tell him to piss up a rope.
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Well I'm sure it will have some sort of chilling effect. People won't want to risk mail in voting for fear that it may not count. Many may not even vote at all, especially if it was their only reliable way to do so.
 
cytg111

cytg111

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gothuevos said:
Quite the opposite.

Pretty liberating to not care anymore.

LIBERATION DAY
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Coward.

I've given you your dues for being on the money in the past while everyone else was shitting on you.

Everybody is wrong. It's the defining feature of our species.

What is not tolerable however is defeat, giving in, giving up, surrendering to fascism.

You fucking fight to the last drop or you're a part of the problem.
 
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gothuevos

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cytg111 said:
Coward.

I've given you your dues for being on the money in the past while everyone else was shitting on you.

Everybody is wrong. It's the defining feature of our species.

What is not tolerable however is defeat, giving in, giving up, surrendering to fascism.

You fucking fight to the last drop or you're a part of the problem.
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Yeah, real life doesn't follow some Hollywood movie script like you're describing. Especially when you already live in a heavily gerrymandered district in a red state so a vote to the contrary doesn't matter anyway. I don't think you're American (?) so it's easy to throw labels around when you don't know the reality or the stakes on the ground.
 
Brainonska511

Brainonska511

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gothuevos said:
Yeah, real life doesn't follow some Hollywood movie script like you're describing. Especially when you already live in a heavily gerrymandered district in a red state so a vote to the contrary doesn't matter anyway. I don't think you're American (?) so it's easy to throw labels around when you don't know the reality or the stakes on the ground.
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You shouldn't give up and capitulate because you might live in a gerrymandered district. Even a cursory review of history shows that politics are not static and change does happen both on short and longer time scales.
 
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