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I'm not an economist. Is it bad when it seems that they might revise jobs down by another few hundred thousand?
 
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Nope, it's 7.


Ok. This is what I remember

The FOMC’s 12 voting members consist of seven Fed governors, who are all picked by a president, confirmed by the Senate and serve 14-year terms, along with five regional Fed presidents, who are selected by their own boards. There are 12 regional Fed presidents overall, so they largely rotate in and out each year as FOMC voters.


 

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On the potential of pardoning Diddy..


Its the subtext Luke is arguing here. Damn. The realization of how far away from the rule of law the US has come in just half a year... and is governed by the whims of a true narcissist king wannabe.

I know that we cant dismiss us democracy before actual elections is fucked over proper... but it does seem like a formality at this point
 
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Impeachments? What impeachments?


 

K1052

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Look I'm not mad that presidents change things about the WH, I'm mad that it looks like cheap builder ass and will throw off an insane amount of glare on a sunny day.

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Look I'm not mad that presidents change things about the WH, I'm mad that it looks like cheap builder ass and will throw off an insane amount of glare on a sunny day.

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I'm generally not mad at changes, but it's pretty ridiculous that he is treating the WH like he owns it. He's merely a tenant. Big changes should be made in consultation with the representatives of the people.

Also, where is the congressional authorization and appropriation for all this construction on our house?
 

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I'm generally not mad at changes, but it's pretty ridiculous that he is treating the WH like he owns it. He's merely a tenant. Big changes should be made in consultation with the representatives of the people.

Also, where is the congressional authorization and appropriation for all this construction on our house?

Since the Republican majority and SCOTUS does nothing but slobber all over him such approval is inconsequential.I assume the new east wing ballroom space will be paid for by whichever foreign country is up next to bribe him but lacks a convenient 747 to do it with.
 

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Relatedly if I got my way and we had a PM instead of a President I'd be quite happy to turn the WH into a museum and make the PM live in Blair House.
 
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Since the Republican majority and SCOTUS does nothing but slobber all over him such approval is inconsequential.I assume the new east wing ballroom space will be paid for by whichever foreign country is up next to bribe him but lacks a convenient 747 to do it with.
Well, you know, it's only a bribe if it comes in a cartoonishly labeled bag ("Bribery $$$$") and the recipient says "I will now do X official action because you gave me this money".
 

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Look I'm not mad that presidents change things about the WH, I'm mad that it looks like cheap builder ass and will throw off an insane amount of glare on a sunny day.

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Rumour is he did that monstrosity because he kept tripping.... though i will admit the change is rather poor taste and pathetic as the person who currently occupies the white house.
 

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Relatedly if I got my way and we had a PM instead of a President I'd be quite happy to turn the WH into a museum and make the PM live in Blair House.

I never had particularly strong opinions about Parliamentary vs Presidential systems, before. But current events have really made me lean towards preferring the former.

I don't know much about Constitutional theories, but seems like the better system is to have a parliament with some sort of figure-head President as head-of-state (as opposed to the Royal circus freakshow we have in the UK, which I certainly wouldn't recommend to anyone - as well as the frequent utter-ludicrousness of it, the worrying part is the range of potentially dictatorial powers invested in 'the Crown' that the Prime Minister gets to exercise on behalf of the monarch, or which an malevolent monarch might try to take back for themselves as an individual ).

Perhaps the precise Constitutional arrangements don't make a huge amount of difference, perhaps culture and economics are more important? But the direction of the US (not solely under Trump, but also the longer-term trend) really seems to suggest that systems with an active, political, President tend inexorably towards autocracy (as well as having problems with paralysis and deadlock).

Another example of the ludicrousness of our system (if only they'd go back to using massive great swords for this sort of thing).

 

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Trump projecting his own deep-seated bigotry again. Trump always calls black people “racist” when they criticize him

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Lol! ... "Low IQ individual" Same old stale predictable insults. Get some new material old man! t's always funny when Trump calls anyone else a "low IQ sleezebag". Especially considering his own history. Trump has to be the most thin-skinned, whiniest, snowflake who has ever lived.

Trump spending Sunday @ 2:00 AM getting triggered by watching a radio show host on a mindless Fox News show. An old man having a meltdown on social media in the wee hours of the morning. This is who you have as President America.
 

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Trump projecting his own deep-seated bigotry again. Trump always calls black people “racist” when they criticize him

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Lol! ... "Low IQ individual" Same old stale predictable insults. Get some new material old man! t's always funny when Trump calls anyone else a "low IQ sleezebag". Especially considering his own history. Trump has to be the most thin-skinned, whiniest, snowflake who has ever lived.

Trump spending Sunday @ 2:00 AM getting triggered by watching a radio show host on a mindless Fox News show. An old man having a meltdown on social media in the wee hours of the morning. This is who you have as President America.
I doubt trump has ever called a white person racist.
 

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One example:

At a recent cabinet meeting called to discuss the flooding tragedy in Texas, the war in Ukraine and Gaza, the bombing of Iran, and global tariffs, Trump went on a 13-minute monologue about how he had decorated the cabinet meeting room.

After talking about paintings which he said he had personally selected from “the vaults”, Trump said. “Look at those frames, you know, I’m a frame person, sometimes I like frames more than I like the pictures,” and added he had overseen the cleaning of some china.

As department heads, including the defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, and the secretary of state, Marco Rubio, waited to be dismissed so they could go and do their jobs, Trump continued:

"Here we put out – you know these, these lamps have been very important actually, whether people love them or not but they’re if you see pictures like Pearl Harbor or Tora! Tora! Tora!, you see movies about the White House where wars are being discussed, oftentimes they’ll show those lamps or something like those lamps, something that looks like them. Probably not the reals, because I don’t think they’re allowed to – this is a very important room, this is a sacred room, and I don’t think they made movies from here.

You never know what they do. But they were missing, er, medallions. See the medallions on top? They had a chain going into the ceiling. And I said: ‘You can’t do that. You have to have a medallion.’ They said, ‘What’s a medallion?’ I said: ‘I’ll show you.’ And then we got some beautiful medallions, and you see them, they were put up there, makes the lamps look [inaudible] so we did these changes.

And when you think of it, the cost was almost nothing. We also painted the room a nice color, beige color, and it’s been really something. The only question is, will I gold-leaf the corners? You could maybe tell me. My cabinet could take a vote. You see the top-line moldings, and the only question is do you go and leaf it? Because you can’t paint it, if you paint it it won’t look good because they’ve never found a paint that looks like gold. You see that in the Oval Office.

Er, they’ve tried for years and years. Somebody could become very wealthy, but they’ve never found a paint that looks like gold. So painting is easy but it won’t look right.”

I can't help but read that in Grandpa Simpson's voice.
 
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I can't help but read that in Grandpa Simpson's voice.
"One trick is to tell stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville? I needed a new heel for m'shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say. Now where were we? Oh, yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have any white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones..."
 
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This (that he isn't all there) has been clear since before the election. It was very clear he has trouble if you ever listened to his rambling speeches that lurch from topic to topic like a verbal diarrhea stream.

If anything, it's really infuriating that media types are now acting like this is something new, instead of something they helped to cover up by downplaying it or not reporting it at all.
 

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This (that he isn't all there) has been clear since before the election. It was very clear he has trouble if you ever listened to his rambling speeches that lurch from topic to topic like a verbal diarrhea stream.

If anything, it's really infuriating that media types are now acting like this is something new, instead of something they helped to cover up by downplaying it or not reporting it at all.
No kidding.

Evil incarnate, and MAGA Nazism aside....
Think Joe Biden was too frail and incoherent to be President?
Trump is all those things and more.

But the media only cares about appearances. And the campaign rally version of verbal diarrhea really appealed to the media and MAGA alike.
 

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Trump spending Sunday @ 2:00 AM getting triggered by watching a radio show host on a mindless Fox News show. An old man having a meltdown on social media in the wee hours of the morning. This is who you have as President America.
This lack of sleep has to be a big part of both Trump’s and Musk’s dysfunction. Pretty scary really that POtuS is so impaired. .
 
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"One trick is to tell stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville? I needed a new heel for m'shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say. Now where were we? Oh, yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have any white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones..."

I'm only surprised Trump didn't get a "which was the style at the time" in there, when meandering on about the White House decor.
 

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As Trump pushes GOP held states to gerrymander ahead of the midterms Dem held states are warming up to doing to the same if they go ahead. No more unilateral disarmament.

California's Democratic legislative leaders appear ready to follow Newsom's lead on redistricting

Democrats in the State Senate and Assembly were briefed late Sunday night on the governor's redistricting effort along with Democratic California Reps. Pete Aguilar and Zoe Lofgren. Multiple sources who were in the meetings said Democrats seemed ready to follow the governor's direction despite the tight timeline, cost, and legal questions behind the effort.

In the virtual meeting, state lawmakers were shown polling around the possible ballot measure that could be presented to voters in the November special election which had 52% of those polled voting yes, 41% no, and 7% undecided.

In screen shots of the polling obtained by KCRA 3, the proposed ballot initiative would say: "Retains California's Citizens Redistricting Commission and declares state policy supporting use of fair, non-partisan redistricting commission nationwide. Adopts new California congressional districts passed by the Legislature for use in congressional elections through 2030. Retains California's original congressional district maps if Texas or other states also retain their original district maps."


Assembly Speaker Rivas spoke strongly in favor of the plan, sources said. In the State Senate, Democrats felt as though they did not have a choice and this is something they have to do.

"A lot of rah rah, save Democracy!" a source in the Assembly said.

"It's a go," a source in the Senate said.
 
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