Orange stain second term results thread

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Someone should sue under the logic that free trade agreements remove the power to tariff. Though, I'm sure because Trump said the magic words of "national security", no one is allowed to second guess his judgement.
 

Panino Manino

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What Petro wanted was just an official and ordered procedure to receive the flights. He doesn't oppose receiving Colombians back, his priority is preventing what happened with the Brazilians, actual torture believe it or not.


Someone should sue under the logic that free trade agreements remove the power to tariff. Though, I'm sure because Trump said the magic words of "national security", no one is allowed to second guess his judgement.
It's not just "tariffs", it's actual sanctions on Colombian officials.
 
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MrSquished

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You can never appease these wannabes dictators. And Trump is a clown. A powerful clown and a crazy clown but still a clown.

If these countries have learned anything from history it's stand up to this fucker now or else it's over.

Love that response by the Colombian leader that shit is hilarious
 

MrSquished

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The other thing about undisciplined Trump who's just a fucking the egotistical prick that has no idea what he's doing, is he's opening up all these battles on all fronts at one time.

He's threatening Europe with withdrawing troops and tariffs on them, and some tariffs on China, tariffs on Mexico and now full on diplomatic and trade wars with Colombia. Honduras is threatening to kick our troops out

If these countries communicate and China surely is taking advantages as well, the US is going to be fighting on so many fronts we are fucked.

Would Trump start world war 3 then? I mean he seems pretty stable right
 
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Indus

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The other thing about undisciplined Trump who's just a fucking the egotistical prick that has no idea what he's doing, is he's opening up all these battles on all fronts at one time.

He's threatening Europe with withdrawing troops and tariffs on them, and some tariffs on China, tariffs on Mexico and now full on diplomatic and trade wars with Colombia. Honduras is threatening to kick our troops out

If these countries communicate and China surely is taking advantages as well, the US is going to be fighting on so many fronts we are fucked.

Would Trump start world war 3 then? I mean he seems pretty stable right

We got the nukes though.

And that is a scary thing to everyone with common sense.

Basically all the nuclear safeguards are gone.. Milley is gone!

America voted for this craziness..
 
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VRAMdemon

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This could have been resolved with a phone call. Trump picked a fight with Columbia, to look like a tough guy. "Emergency Tariffs" There's a concept for ya!

Under Biden, Colombia accepted 475 deportation flights from 2020 to 2024, fifth behind Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico and El Salvador, according to Witness at the Border. Over 120 in 2024 alone. When they are properly coordinated. And he didn’t have to start a fucking trade war to do it. Incompetence by Trump admin. How unsurprising.
 

Amol S.

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I would not be a bit surprised when all these pre-market conservative speculators are surpried and shocked when they see the EUR/USD sky rocket (bad for the dollar), when the tarriffs on Columbia come fully into effect.
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K1052

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WH press release that the spat with Colombia is over.

https://bsky.app/profile/ericmgarcia.bsky.social/post/3lgoy4fsfxk2f

Of course Trump says he got everything he wanted but I'll lay huge money the Colombian government got them to only transport on civil airliners again and not shackled. Their end says they have an agreement for "dignified transport of deportees as citizens with rights". I figure Trump got spooked that they didn't cave.
 
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Indus

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I would not be a bit surprised when all these pre-market conservative speculators are surpried and shocked when they see the EUR/USD sky rocket (bad for the dollar), when the tarriffs on Columbia come fully into effect.
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Yeah it's going to be crazy for the stocks too.

I just put $2100 into Nvidia on Friday.. already expecting down 10%.. but I'll just hold it because I know it's a good company.

Trump is going to create a lot of dips for everything so stuff will be really volatile this year.
 
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amenx

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This could have been resolved with a phone call. Trump picked a fight with Columbia, to look like a tough guy. "Emergency Tariffs" There's a concept for ya!

Under Biden, Colombia accepted 475 deportation flights from 2020 to 2024, fifth behind Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico and El Salvador, according to Witness at the Border. Over 120 in 2024 alone. When they are properly coordinated. And he didn’t have to start a fucking trade war to do it. Incompetence by Trump admin. How unsurprising.
Exactly. This what makes him a terrible leader. Just rough-shodding his way through foreign relations for the appearance of 'toughness' is making him seem like an idiot to the rest of the world. In the end he is just more ineffectual than 'tough'.

Thr Brits already considered him an idiot when the staff of former PMs would laugh hysterically at his phone calls to the PM. He just speaks his mind with zero self-awareness.
 

Jaskalas

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It's not just "tariffs", it's actual sanctions on Colombian officials.
Ah, Trump desires to break the US dollar. Sanctions are already at maximum stress and breaking under the strain of subduing Russia.
To attack ALL nations with sanctions will simply shatter what power remains. The world will unite against us and empower our actual enemies.

The United States will be much smaller, weaker, and no longer the world super power after MAGA.
 

zinfamous

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lol, lmfao really? i guess invading and replacing governments doesn't mean you are not reliable?

Of course that means we are reliable! We very reliably do those things and everyone knows we will continue to do them!
 

Panino Manino

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WH press release that the spat with Colombia is over.

https://bsky.app/profile/ericmgarcia.bsky.social/post/3lgoy4fsfxk2f

Of course Trump says he got everything he wanted but I'll lay huge money the Colombian government got them to only transport on civil airliners again and not shackled. Their end says they have an agreement for "dignified transport of deportees as citizens with rights". I figure Trump got spooked that they didn't cave.

Wonder if the whole world will pretend any word on the last official statement is true, and that murrica is really "respected" again.
Only one with conditions to accept was Petro.

But still, Orange had to do this.
Petro was responding to everything and the man, contrary to Orange, can actually write. Wasn't doing good to Orange's image.
 
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cytg111

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Ah, Trump desires to break the US dollar. Sanctions are already at maximum stress and breaking under the strain of subduing Russia.
To attack ALL nations with sanctions will simply shatter what power remains. The world will unite against us and empower our actual enemies.

The United States will be much smaller, weaker, and no longer the world super power after MAGA.

Something like BRICS is looking better and better by the day.
 

cytg111

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Yeah it's going to be crazy for the stocks too.

I just put $2100 into Nvidia on Friday.. already expecting down 10%.. but I'll just hold it because I know it's a good company.

Trump is going to create a lot of dips for everything so stuff will be really volatile this year.
I think China just broke Nvidia a little bit... :(
 
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pmv

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I thought I remembered there was a lot of fuss about potential conflicts-of-interest with Trump's business interests last time round. Does nobody care about that stuff any more?


Though I also find myself wondering if this James Thurber is related to the famous humorist (wiki doesn't say)?

“There are shameful and major conflicts of interest with respect to his family business benefiting from his cryptocurrency policies,” said James Thurber, the founder and former director of the Center for Congressional and Presidential Studies.
 

IronWing

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I thought I remembered there was a lot of fuss about potential conflicts-of-interest with Trump's business interests last time round. Does nobody care about that stuff any more?


Though I also find myself wondering if this James Thurber is related to the famous humorist (wiki doesn't say)?
The Supreme Court ruling that foreign governments bribing Trump was perfectly constitutional despite the Constitution saying the exact opposite took the wind out of the sails of people opposed to corruption.

Constitution:
No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

Supremes:
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cytg111

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Flop sweats breaking out over at OpenAI and Meta today for sure.

That $500B AI investment Trump was crowing about might have a couple issues.

Beyond that it's also the natural cyclic progression of new tech right, it gets faster and smaller, draws less power while even outputting more and better.

In a few months we will be able to run these insane models in our own homes on 2k$ nvidia hardware.

You have to wonder what kind of innovation 500B dollars can put on top of that. Crazy fucking times. Terminator and Idiocracy both being documentaries in the same timeframe is fucking mental.
 

ch33zw1z

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I thought I remembered there was a lot of fuss about potential conflicts-of-interest with Trump's business interests last time round. Does nobody care about that stuff any more?


Though I also find myself wondering if this James Thurber is related to the famous humorist (wiki doesn't say)?

No, absolutely nobody will do anything about trump using his position to profit. This is what the autocracy is.
 

Zorba

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A big risk for Trump is that Petro's defiance catches on. Colombia is tiny but just told him to take a long walk off a short pier and they don't care what he does. I would bet almost anything that China is courting central and South American countries just waiting for him to throw away American influence.
All the Trump supporters think he is making America powerful by being a bully. In reality he is pissing away American influence.