Orange stain second term results thread

[Muse]

People should brace themselves for the fact that Trump is a huge and lifelong fucking liar lol.

Well known ever since the ghost writer for The Art of the Deal admitted to the book being in in some degree a series of fabrications and that lying is a way of life for Trump. Michael Cohen absolutely agreed.

What we need to brace ourselves for is the fact that "checks and balances" is a worthy slogan/strategy-in-principle, something well meaning shapers of public policy and institutions aspire to, but it is evidently a fiction in the USA. We'll see how this all plays out, but Trump appears to be all about throwing hand grenades at democratic institutions, environmental initiatives of any kind, respect for sovereignty of nations, efforts to level the playing fields. The president has too much power.

 

[Muse]

This is end stage Adolf and how shit collapses. I mean I guess we cant complain but the incompetence *IS* striking.

I expected the collapse of modern civilization but didn't expect the intense burgeoning pace we're seeing over the last 10 years. The Global Warming Crisis is outpacing expert estimates (that's a scientific failure to some extent, although some probably predicted it). This will exacerbate and hasten instability locally, nationally and internationally. I don't know that there's any way to stop it.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I expected the collapse of modern civilization but didn't expect the intense burgeoning pace we're seeing over the last 10 years. The Global Warming Crisis is outpacing expert estimates (that's a scientific failure to some extent, although some probably predicted it). This will exacerbate and hasten instability locally, nationally and internationally. I don't know that there's any way to stop it.

Can't imagine the mess for example Phoenix is going to be in thirty years considering there are already parts of that metro area that don't have water now. Always sickens me seeing it's the fastest growing metro in the US, knowing that anyone who buys today is going to have a worthless home in thirty years once they have paid off their mortgage. San Antonio will be bad enough but JFC Arizona is going to make Texas look like Disneyland. Hitting that +1.5C mark twenty years early last year was just a nice cherry on top. Can't imagine what 100 days of 100+ on average is going to look like out here in SA in the 2050s after how unbelievable 2023 was with our 75 days of 100+ and humid June days with heat indices pushing 125.

 

[pmv]

The consequences for '70s Disco probably aren't the most important of the results of Trump II, but seems that it's having a bad effect on The Village People

From gay clubs to Maga anthem: the absurd, contested history of the Village People’s YMCA

A barely recognizable version of the band performed the 1978 classic at Donald Trump’s inauguration, the latest chapter in a strange tale of disco, feuds and showboating

www.theguardian.com

I note that it's "the cop" who is the one who most sides with Trump.

A few weeks before the inauguration, Willis – who, reminder, makes his living by dressing up as a cop – said in a statement on Facebook that the song “is not really a gay anthem”. “When I say [in the song], ‘hang out with all the boys’ that is simply 1970s Black slang for Black guys hanging out together for sports, gambling or whatever. There’s nothing gay about that.” He also threatened to sue any news organization that pegged the song as a gay anthem.

Also it's weird how Trump is both very camp (clearly he derives all his gestures and presentational style from Liberace - I've long thought that, just based on dim memories of the latter on UK TV in the '70s - and, finally, recently read someone making that exact point in an article somewhere) and apparently likes this style of music, yet seems to be fervently against LGBT rights.

 

[Muse]

The consequences for '70s Disco probably aren't the most important of the results of Trump II, but seems that it's having a bad effect on The Village People

From gay clubs to Maga anthem: the absurd, contested history of the Village People’s YMCA

A barely recognizable version of the band performed the 1978 classic at Donald Trump’s inauguration, the latest chapter in a strange tale of disco, feuds and showboating

www.theguardian.com

I note that it's "the cop" who is the one who most sides with Trump.



Also it's weird how Trump is both very camp (clearly he derives all his gestures and presentational style from Liberace - I've long thought that, just based on dim memories of the latter on UK TV in the '70s - and, finally, recently read someone making that exact point in an article somewhere) and apparently likes this style of music, yet seems to be fervently against LGBT rights.

I thought the development of disco in the 70's was illustrative and symptomatic of the absorption and neutering of the revolutionary trends that powered the mid-later 60's by corporate America.

Watergate, Nixon's resignation, the Vietnam war debacle, Warren Commission tamping down the JFK assassination mysteries, poor absorption of Vietnam veterans, assassination of Malcolm X, to me disco was some of the worst.

 

[cytg111]

I expected the collapse of modern civilization but didn't expect the intense burgeoning pace we're seeing over the last 10 years. The Global Warming Crisis is outpacing expert estimates (that's a scientific failure to some extent, although some probably predicted it). This will exacerbate and hasten instability locally, nationally and internationally. I don't know that there's any way to stop it.

Trump and cronies want Greenland. That should tells us something. Like maybe mayhaps the change in weather 20 years down the line is already in the model.

 

[brycejones]

I looked this up earlier:According to the DOD comptroller, as of fall 2022, the average hourly cost of operating a C-17 was about $21,000 and the average hourly cost of operating a C-130E was between $68,000 and $71,000. Based on these figures it can be estimated that the C-17 flight on Thursday that carried 80 migrants from El Paso, Texas to Guatemala City would have cost roughly $252,000. For the same 12-hour flight using the C-130E, it would cost between $816,000 and $852,000.

In comparison, a flight directly chartered by DHS’ Immigration and Customs Enforcement is $8,577, according to estimates posted by the agency

So...$3150 each on the C-17, as much as $10,650 each for the C-130...compared to $107 for a chartered flight.

Maybe this is something for DOGE to look at.

Would love to know what plane ICE was chartering for how long of a flight for $8,577.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Trump and cronies want Greenland. That should tells us something. Like maybe mayhaps the change in weather 20 years down the line is already in the model.

Greenland will probably be just as useless in 20 years as it is today. Permafrost does not make good farm land, and it's otherwise just empty space which we already have tons of. It does provide cheaper access to some resources but like, we have plenty of that too.

The whole 'melt of northern climes will actually help us!' is mostly copium.

Note this isn't a bash on the people of Greenland, just the land itself. No different from Northern Canada or Siberia.

 

[cytg111]

So you guys got any tips on those private prison stocks?

AOC just did it again.

 

[cytg111]

Greenland will probably be just as useless in 20 years as it is today. Permafrost does not make good farm land, and it's otherwise just empty space which we already have tons of. It does provide cheaper access to some resources but like, we have plenty of that too.

The whole 'melt of northern climes will actually help us!' is mostly copium.

Note this isn't a bash on the people of Greenland, just the land itself. No different from Northern Canada or Siberia.

Here is what perplexity says on the subj

 

[brycejones]

So you guys got any tips on those private prison stocks?

AOC just did it again.

Oh god, I wasn't expecting the not wise and very ugly woman at the end.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Here is what perplexity says on the subj

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Yep that sounds about right. It'll be catastrophic environmentally but there will be a few advantages. They aren't really ones the US needs to exploit though unless we are determined to make a bunch of enemies in coastal Europe all of a sudden.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Trump will eventually dump Elon and all Elon can do about it is whine like a bitch and go buy democrats.

I’m pretty sure that honeymoon is over. The “President Musk” comments have most likely predictably gotten under Trump’s thin skin and he’s deliberately sidelining him, as seen by his announcing an AI initiative with Altman.

Musk is about to learn what undying loyalty, time and money to Trump gets you in return - absolutely nothing.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Felon 47 continues his assault on "DEI" or a better term, his "whitewashing of history"… by removing training videos of The Tuskegee Airmen and The Women Airforce Service Pilots, an organization of civilian women who tested and delivered military aircraft during World War II, transported cargo and trained male pilots. Members were awarded the Congressional Gold Medal in 2009.

https://eedition.expressnews.com/infinity/article_popover_share.aspx?guid=e4d50a6a-1a88-4bd4-9eaa-9a26187e333a&share=true

None of those stories has to do with "DEI"

 

[cytg111]

Oh god, I wasn't expecting the not wise and very ugly woman at the end.

Shoulda put a disclaimer, sorry for the emotional damage.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Trump: - “Los Angeles has massive amounts of water available to it. All they have to do is turn the value, and that’s the valve coming back from and down from the Pacific Northwest.”

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)

Trump on wildfires: "Los Angeles has massive amounts of water available to it. All they have to do is turn the value, and that's the valve coming back from and down from the Pacific Northwest."

bsky.app

Trump: - “They wanted to restrict you to 38 gallons of water a day. That sounds like a lot, but it’s not when you’re a rich person and you want to take a shower.”

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)

Trump on Beverly Hills: "They wanted to restrict you to 38 gallons of water a day. That sounds like a lot, but it's not when you're a rich person and you want to take a shower."

bsky.app

Lol ... "when your rich" what a buffoon!

Here is a photo of the Top Secret location of the faucet/valve that provides water to California. Will they ever turn it on!

 

[cytg111]

Sorry, last video of the day.

You think Putin's fellatio here is gonna work on Trump? 1000% it is.

 

[K1052]

Apparently Trump DOD appointees want to cancel the military's entire commissary program in the US.

I am not exaggerating that this is one real way you might get a military coup.

https://bsky.app/profile/reshetz.bsky.social/post/3lgnk52k54s2n

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Felon 47 continues his assault on "DEI" or a better term, his "whitewashing of history"… by removing training videos of The Tuskegee Airmen and The Women Airforce Service Pilots, an organization of civilian women who tested and delivered military aircraft during World War II, transported cargo and trained male pilots. Members were awarded the Congressional Gold Medal in 2009.

https://eedition.expressnews.com/infinity/article_popover_share.aspx?guid=e4d50a6a-1a88-4bd4-9eaa-9a26187e333a&share=true

None of those stories has to do with "DEI"

I went through that training, and that information is a very important part of AF history.

Fuck that noise.

 

[K1052]

Columbia refuses US deportation flights on military aircraft.

https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social/post/3lgnpvpygks24

 

[alien42]

So you guys got any tips on those private prison stocks?

AOC just did it again.

CXW and GEO

 

[VRAMdemon]

Chuck Grassley and Lisa Murkowski are/seem "concerned" about the Trump administration firing approx. 17 inspector generals from the State, Defense, Transportation, and other departments. Each department has an inspector general whose job is to root out corruption, abuse of power, and fraud without informing Congress. A clear violation of federal law.

Even Republicans are questioning Trump’s ‘illegal’ midnight purge of inspector generals

‘The summary dismissal of everybody, I think, has raised concerns,’ Alaska Republican senator says

www.yahoo.com

Gee Chuck, why would a convicted felon President want to fire 17 IGs whose primary purpose was to probe for potential waste, abuse, and corruption in our government agencies? Do you suppose he’s planning a ton of waste, abuse, and corruption? Tell me it can’t be so!

Trump is the Frankenstein's monster you helped build, Chuck... you and the other servile GOP cucks in Congress own this and anything else he does over the next 2 - 4 years.

Grassley: Mr. President, would you mind giving me just a little, teeny weenie bit more info?

Trump: Because I do whatever I want

Grassley: Thank you sir, very well sir. I appreciate your time.

Strongmen/dictators don't need to answer to anyone. Grassley is old enough that he should have known that...So now that Trump is behaving like a dictator, they shouldn't act surprised. His public theater now about what Trump is doing surprises only those who are naive. They supported a wannabe dictator so when he behaves like one, it shouldn't surprise them one bit.

Hey! .... To rob the bank you have to get rid of the security guards! Trump does not want watch dogs...he wants lapdogs

 

[Jaskalas]

Columbia refuses US deportation flights on military aircraft.

https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social/post/3lgnpvpygks24

Little more detail on what the US is doing, and another country's response....

BRAZIL SLAMS USA AFTER DEPORTEES ARRIVE HANDCUFFED...
DEMANDS EXPLANATION ON 'DEGRADING TREATMENT'...
NO WATER, NO WASHROOM; TIED HANDS AND FEET...

 

[K1052]

Little more detail on what the US is doing, and another country's response....

BRAZIL SLAMS USA AFTER DEPORTEES ARRIVE HANDCUFFED...
DEMANDS EXPLANATION ON 'DEGRADING TREATMENT'...
NO WATER, NO WASHROOM; TIED HANDS AND FEET...

Shipping people home in irons is ICE protocol I think, even if it's entirely unnecessary. There is going to be a lot of attention on exactly how their nationals are repatriated and some things these governments might have looked the other way on before will become diplomatic issues.

 

[manly]

Chuck Grassley and Lisa Murkowski are/seem "concerned" about the Trump administration firing approx. 17 inspector generals from the State, Defense, Transportation, and other departments. Each department has an inspector general whose job is to root out corruption, abuse of power, and fraud without informing Congress. A clear violation of federal law.

Even Republicans are questioning Trump’s ‘illegal’ midnight purge of inspector generals

‘The summary dismissal of everybody, I think, has raised concerns,’ Alaska Republican senator says

www.yahoo.com

Gee Chuck, why would a convicted felon President want to fire 17 IGs whose primary purpose was to probe for potential waste, abuse, and corruption in our government agencies? Do you suppose he’s planning a ton of waste, abuse, and corruption? Tell me it can’t be so!

Trump is the Frankenstein's monster you helped build, Chuck... you and the other servile GOP cucks in Congress own this and anything else he does over the next 2 - 4 years.

Grassley: Mr. President, would you mind giving me just a little, teeny weenie bit more info?

Trump: Because I do whatever I want

Grassley: Thank you sir, very well sir. I appreciate your time.

Strongmen/dictators don't need to answer to anyone. Grassley is old enough that he should have known that...So now that Trump is behaving like a dictator, they shouldn't act surprised. His public theater now about what Trump is doing surprises only those who are naive. They supported a wannabe dictator so when he behaves like one, it shouldn't surprise them one bit.

Hey! .... To rob the bank you have to get rid of the security guards! Trump does not want watch dogs...he wants lapdogs

Grassley isn't surprised. Dinosaurs like Chuck and Moscow Mitch are part of the problem, not part of the solution. No idea why they're now pretending to have a spine.

I don't know much about Murkowski but she hardly belongs in the GOP anymore. Might be the only decent GOP Republican Senator remaining lol.