Oprah: "there are generations that...just have to die"

[rudeguy]

so fucking what. god i hate that argument. here is an idea, DONT COMMIT CRIME AND YOU DONT GO TO JAIL!

Unless you drive through New Mexico and have to poo....

 

[EagleKeeper]

no...I asked for 10 people and their cities.

This should be pretty easy for you.

I am sure that one can go into any large urban city neighborhood where there is a high concentration of lower class people and ask any black female on her opinions of a black dating/marrying a white girl

 

[Texashiker]

Once you go up the socio-economic ladder differences in crime statistics disapear

Are you saying poor people commit more crimes than rich people?

If that is the point, please explain wall street. They are the biggest criminals around.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Start joining the movements to directly criminalize trying to make money rather than bitch and whine about how life is unfair.

 

[waggy]

Are you saying poor people commit more crimes than rich people?

If that is the point, please explain wall street. They are the biggest criminals around.

no. wall street commits the HIGHEST amount per crime.

Poor people commit MORE crime. It's just at a smaller amount per crime.

 

[monovillage]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-oprah-racism-kass-20131119,0,626742.column

Granted, some criticism of the twice-elected Obama comes from racism. But it also might occur because his inept administration is failing, Americans don’t believe he tells the truth, and the latest Quinnipiac poll shows his approval rating at a measly 39 percent.

What do Oprah’s comments tell you?

That if you’re not part of that 39 percent and you see Oprah in an alley, you’d better run.

It’s not just the words she said that are so unnerving. It’s how she said them: leaning forward, emoting the “just have to die” part, dramatically nodding her head while pronouncing sentence.

 

[HomerJS]

Are you saying poor people commit more crimes than rich people?

If that is the point, please explain wall street. They are the biggest criminals around.

Wall Street people commit crime that screws over more people then poor people. One on one crime is more frequent then a single case of financial fraud that screws over thousands of people, ala Enron.

 

[echo4747]

I, for one, am sick and tired of Ms. Oprah Winfrey's malevolent power over the hearts and minds of Americans. America reads what Ms. Winfrey reads; they derive "spiritual enlightment" from the same apocryphal cults that Ms. Winfrey advocates; they vote for whomever Ms. Winfrey decrees worthy. Now, government studies have shown that America is starting to eat like Ms. Winfrey. One shudders to think where this might lead, which is why Oprah-mania must cease, post-haste.

 

[blankslate]

She basically stated a reality in the least tactful way possible (in fact if she couldn't think of a way to rephrase that statement in the moment it would better have been left unsaid as evidenced by the currently 3 page thread....)

Racism (and other forms of bigotry) is hard to find in people who are in their teens unless some older relative taught it to them.

When these teenagers and people in their early 20's are in their 60s then racism will pretty much (hopefully) be practically nonexistent.

 

[zinfamous]

but what about the older blacks, like her, that keep on promoting racism?

Should she have to die too?

yes.

If you remove the topic of race and racism from what she said, the idea holds true--prejudice of any sort, archaic ideas that no longer function in a modern world, grudges over past atrocities that encourage older generations to hold them over the current society...shit like that.

For all of these things to progress, the people that refuse to fold on them, simply have to die. That's been true forever.

....will that happen with racism? I doubt it. I think people will always be racist to some degree. The best we can hope for is that all people are treated equally--in terms of respect and access--in the public and private sphere.

Oprah has been a pretty racist person her entire life, though. I think she means well, most of the time, but she's a good bit responsible for keeping the old race war angers flowing. Her main thing has always been women, though.

 

[zinfamous]

Are you saying poor people commit more crimes than rich people?

If that is the point, please explain wall street. They are the biggest criminals around.

there are less people at that level to commit those crimes.

So, in terms of shear numbers--poor people commit far greater numbers of crimes than do wall street criminals.

what about the crimes? I would argue that one wall street executives crimes are far more harmful to greater numbers of people than any crime committed by a poor person.

Total numbers of crime? no. Greater impact and numbers of people affected by crime? definitely.