Oprah: "there are generations that...just have to die"

[desy]

Except a lot of white people get a pass and never make it to prison, allowed to do community service for identical crimes black people commit because judges and the white legal system, jurors etc incarcerate them disproportionately

Its been proven many times the scales of justice is peaking out from under the blindfold ,you don't have to look any further than the death penalty where many whites plea down and avoid the chamber where prosecution isn't as willing to deal for blacks

to pretend it doesn't happen is naïve, I was working with an Indian guy about 30 yrs ago setting up for a trade show, from behind the glass to the arena some guy tapped the glass and started jumping around like he was at a powwow. I was amazed as a teenager cause I hadn't seen behavior like that before. I asked if it happened often that kind of crap, he said all the time.

You don't notice it when you are in the larger culture, friends of mine who have gone to Japan to teach English all came back with stories of racism from there. It was amazing as never having suffered prejudice because of race before to be placed in that situation opened their eyes when they came back to notice all the little things that go on everyday that minorities all have to face from birth here

 

[HomerJS]

I could not care less if a white comedian makes a joke with the N word in it, just like I don't care if a black comedian makes a joke about inbred white people. They're jokes. Lighten up. The world doesn't revolve around you and your deep seeded race issues ingrained in you while you were a youngster.



Maybe you need to focus on working hard and being successful instead of spending every spare moment looking through your blinders trying to paint a racist label on literally everything around you.

Ignore it and it goes away. Good solution for a lot of things I guess.

Funny thing the black actor who was arrested at Macys was doing just what you advocated.

But I guess we should just ignore it.

 

[JMapleton]

sorry...working

You generalized that there are whole segments of the population that believe this. I asked for a few names and their cities. If you don't personally know of any, just say so.

I gave you statistics that indicate literally hundreds of thousands of people in MS alone are against interracial marriage.

If I could name 10 people specifically, I don't see what that would matter. A few individual cases says nothing about the general population.

few names and their cities

Notice how you didn't mention states. (Classic evasive maneuver when debating.) I gave you a state that has a significant population of people with such an opinion.

 

[jhbball]

sorry...working

You generalized that there are whole segments of the population that believe this. I asked for a few names and their cities. If you don't personally know of any, just say so.

you're really fucking stupid.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Ignore it and it goes away. Good solution for a lot of things I guess.

Funny thing the black actor who was arrested at Macys was doing just what you advocated.

But I guess we should just ignore it.

The reality is, some small segment... 5% or less.... of society is racist. Nothing you do will change that. Not a thing. Some will die out, then maybe we will have 3%. That number will never, ever be 0%.

And... I know this is going to be a huge shocker for you, but there are plenty of black racists as well.

Nowadays we have far more diehard young black racists than we do old white racists.


You get upset about the black actor situation, but couldn't care less about the duck dynasty guy getting profiled.

Rather than focus on "omg it's simply because he's black" you need to take a few steps back and look at what's really going on.


And honestly, ignoring it (in the situation of the idiot black actor) will do more good in regards to society than making an enormous racial deal about something that had nothing to do with race.

 

[HomerJS]

The reality is, some small segment... 5% or less.... of society is racist. Nothing you do will change that. Not a thing. Some will die out, then maybe we will have 3%. That number will never, ever be 0%.

And... I know this is going to be a huge shocker for you, but there are plenty of black racists as well.

Nowadays we have far more diehard young black racists than we do old white racists.


You get upset about the black actor situation, but couldn't care less about the duck dynasty guy getting profiled.

Rather than focus on "omg it's simply because he's black" you need to take a few steps back and look at what's really going on.


And honestly, ignoring it (in the situation of the idiot black actor) will do more good in regards to society than making an enormous racial deal about something that had nothing to do with race.

You are right it wasn't that, it was the fact he was dressed well, well spoken, polite and professional.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

You are right it wasn't that, it was the fact he was dressed well, well spoken, polite and professional.

You have no idea how he was dressed the day this went down, or how he spoke, and whether or not he was polite.

People wrapped up in this crap are always polite in the interviews....

 

[AznAnarchy99]

That number will never, ever be 0%.

Yup and the fact that many other nations are way more openly racist compared to the United States. I lived in Europe for a bit and was surprised at how racist they are compared to the US. I can only compare it to Los Angeles and New York and not the South but these were major European capitals.

ESPN had a good article about it.

http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/9338962/

 

[JMapleton]

Yup and the fact that many other nations are way more openly racist compared to the United States. I lived in Europe for a bit and was surprised at how racist they are compared to the US. I can only compare it to Los Angeles and New York and not the South but these were major European capitals.

ESPN had a good article about it.

http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/9338962/

In Europe I've noticed they're extreme with their racism. On one side they have Neonazis other insane people. On the other side they have people who will call you a racist if you even bring up the subject of race, far more sensitive than left wingers we find in the US.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Yup and the fact that many other nations are way more openly racist compared to the United States. I lived in Europe for a bit and was surprised at how racist they are compared to the US. I can only compare it to Los Angeles and New York and not the South but these were major European capitals.

ESPN had a good article about it.

http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/9338962/

I really think this crap is actually coming to a close in the US.

It was on it's way out before the trayvon debacle, and now it's pretty obvious that most of these "omg everyone is racist" situations have more to the story.


Mainstream society in the US is absolutely fed up with the "racism is holding me back" excuse.

It simply doesn't work like it did in the 90's and early 2000's. Groups like the NAACP, al sharpton, they are all toxic nowadays... You really don't want to be associated with them.

It truly is the perfect example of the boy who cried wolf, which is sad, because when there is actual racism that needs to be dealt with it will end up swept under the rug purely due to actions from the race brigaiders.

 

[desy]

really 5% almost nothing
Well link me the article then cause its seems higher

http://rt.com/usa/majority-americans-racist-poll-378/

Racial prejudice against blacks cut clearly across America’s left-right political divide, despite perceptions to the contrary. While 79 percent of Republicans willingly expressed racial prejudice when answering questions measuring explicit racism (as opposed to 32 percent among Democrats), the implicit racism test showed that a majority of Republicans (64 percent) and Democrats (55 percent) held implicit anti-black feelings.

http://globalgrind.com/2013/08/09/p...lie-about-their-black-friends-racism-details/

 

[SpatiallyAware]

really 5% almost nothing
Well link me the article then cause its seems higher

http://rt.com/usa/majority-americans-racist-poll-378/

Racial prejudice against blacks cut clearly across America’s left-right political divide, despite perceptions to the contrary. While 79 percent of Republicans willingly expressed racial prejudice when answering questions measuring explicit racism (as opposed to 32 percent among Democrats), the implicit racism test showed that a majority of Republicans (64 percent) and Democrats (55 percent) held implicit anti-black feelings.

ROFL... You've got to be kidding.

First line "The election of Barack Obama failed to usher in a post-racial US, with a new poll showing that 51 percent of Americans hold explicitly anti-black views."


Yet obama got elected?

I love how this article has no source or info on these "polls".


I still stand by my comment that there are more racists burnt umber and darker people than there are racist medium ivory or lighters.

 

[HomerJS]

You have no idea how he was dressed the day this went down, or how he spoke, and whether or not he was polite.

People wrapped up in this crap are always polite in the interviews....

Went to Macys to buy his mother a watch for her graduation.

Looks kinda shifty to me.

Obviously made the whole thing up!

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Went to Macys to buy his mother a watch for her graduation.

Looks kinda shifty to me.

Obviously made the whole thing up!

Your progressive libtard tears taste amazing...

 

[lupi]

reminds me of the SNL skit on what it would take for you to lose faith in obama.

 

[desy]

anti black views doesn't mean they didn't vote it means they don't care for blacks.
That's the trouble with racist viewpoint its hard to nail down
I call racism and was taught that it means hatred, prejudice is prejudging and I'd certainly know every one harbors prejudice but where is the line that it crosses over into something darker. Not every racist is a hooded card carrying clansman and that's what you seem to think racism is, but people refusing to get into a cab with a driver with a turban, that's racism, crossing the street from a minority, prejudice or racist ? and that stuff is common common common and happens a lot more than your mythical 5% almost 3%

 

[rudeguy]

I gave you statistics that indicate literally hundreds of thousands of people in MS alone are against interracial marriage.

If I could name 10 people specifically, I don't see what that would matter. A few individual cases says nothing about the general population.

few names and their cities

Notice how you didn't mention states. (Classic evasive maneuver when debating.) I gave you a state that has a significant population of people with such an opinion.

And I retort with the fact that 85% of statistics can be skewed 75% of the time. We all know how those things work. I am asking for your real world experience. Do you know anyone that holds that view?

Better yet: show me a popular white person who said anything close to this. Show me someone who generalized a whole population and said that generations of people have to ddie.

 

[rudeguy]

you're really fucking stupid.

You must be new here if you just figured that out

:biggrin:

 

[JMapleton]

And I retort with the fact that 85% of statistics can be skewed
75% of the time.

Using a pithy phrase to disregard factual evidence is not going to work. There is no skewing. It was a yes or no question and those are the facts.

We all know how those things work. I am asking for your real world experience. Do you know anyone that holds that view?

I do not know very many old people and I live in the North. I never grew up around that sort of environment, so no.

Better yet: show me a popular white person who said anything close to this. Show me someone who generalized a whole population and said that generations of people have to ddie.

Ahh, another internet debating trick. If any "popular" person held that view they wouldn't be popular for long. And if they did hold such a view, it would be career suicide to voice it. You know this of course, but you're using evasive debating tricks to cover the fact that you're wrong.

In fact, I don't even know what you're arguing. Are you saying that racism or close minded people do not exist? I contend they do, in large numbers, particularly in the South, and I have statistics to prove it.

 

[rudeguy]

Using a pithy phrase to disregard factual evidence is not going to work. There is no skewing. It was a yes or no question and those are the facts.



I do not know very many old people and I live in the North. I never grew up around that sort of environment, so no.



Ahh, another internet debating trick. If any "popular" person held that view they wouldn't be popular for long. And if they did hold such a view, it would be career suicide to voice it. You know this of course, but you're using evasive debating tricks to cover the fact that you're wrong.

In fact, I don't even know what you're arguing. Are you saying that racism or close minded people do not exist? I contend they do, in large numbers, particularly in the South, and I have statistics to prove it.

I contend that the new fad is to encourage racism, even though its a minority opinion. I too live in the north so I can't speak for everyone. I can only say that the vast majority of racist things I hear are not from racist white people. They are from popular people who are trying to make white people racist.

I shall call it the "Kanye Syndrome".

 

[JMapleton]

I contend that the new fad is to encourage racism, even though its a minority opinion. I too live in the north so I can't speak for everyone. I can only say that the vast majority of racist things I hear are not from racist white people. They are from popular people who are trying to make white people racist.

I shall call it the "Kanye Syndrome".

I actually disagree with those who encourage the existence of racism. The vast majority of racists (both black and white) are old, uneducated, and poor. I don't think racism is a problem in America.

But you have to understand, there are still significant "old" populations of people that live in these closed off communities in the South that still hold these views. It's really not their fault, they live in a bubble. But they exist. Remnants of the past.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Kanye Syndrome... Lol, perfect.

 

[lupi]

Yeah, it's always those damn southern bastards.


http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...e-worcester/dC5LLndnveK0OJ64QLZXxI/story.html

 

[thraashman]

ROFL... You've got to be kidding.

First line "The election of Barack Obama failed to usher in a post-racial US, with a new poll showing that 51 percent of Americans hold explicitly anti-black views."


Yet obama got elected?

I love how this article has no source or info on these "polls".


I still stand by my comment that there are more racists burnt umber and darker people than there are racist medium ivory or lighters.

It's ok Spatially. Anyone that's ever seen you post knows quite well where you fall in regards to racism. (hint, it's the deep end)

 

[OutHouse]

It is not just how people were raised, there are the facts.

Blacks make up a higher percentage of the prison population than whites and all other races.

Changing those statics will help end racism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States#Race

In 2010 black non-Hispanic males were incarcerated at the rate of 4,347 inmates per 100,000.

White males were incarcerated at the rate of 678 inmates per 100,000 U.S. residents.

so fucking what. god i hate that argument. here is an idea, DONT COMMIT CRIME AND YOU DONT GO TO JAIL!