Opiate withdrawal is the worst thing ever.........EVER

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skyking

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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: skyking
Man, all I can say is I'm thankful to never have enough pain to get started on that stuff. <knocks on wood>.
The one time I took something strong, it was for wisdom teeth pain. I took one pill and it had nasty side affects, made me angry! I tossed the rest and took aspirin.
Best of luck to you OP. Get some gatoraide or other electrolyte replacement drink, it will help you feel better. All that running is taking a toll on your hydration and electrolytes.

Man, I guess I have a high tolerance for pain or something. When I had all four of my wisdom teeth pulled, after I left the orthodontist, the only thing I took during my entire convalescence was one dose of Advil.

I too have a high tolerance. The surgeon prescribed it, I filled it and took one. It did not like me:)
A couple of asprins and I was good to go.
 

duragezic

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Throwing away whole 'scripts? Damn!!

And people talk alcohol abuse when someone pours out a beer. This is equivalent to pouring out several cases of Sam Adams and fifths of top shelf stuff. Dont you guys know the money you could get? Up to $5 a 'tab in some areas, figure a bottle of 30-90 pills.... Oxy is horrible. Someone with a script of say 40 60mg could own a used car by the end of the day if they started selling early enough in the morning.


Of course, I am kidding about all that.
 

Electric Amish

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My wife is currently going through this, but it's being managed by her doctor.

She was on 1600mcg of Actiq 4x a day + 75mg Fentanyl transdermal.

She's stepping down now and is taking a Klonipin patch + Clonazepam to help with withdrawal symptoms. She's currently down to 800mcg of Actiq 4x a day + 50mg Fentanyl transdermal.

When she forgets to change a patch she gets very uncomfortable. Her legs ache and she can't sit still. I can't imagine what it would be like if she let it go any longer.
 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
what the hell is wrong with people who do drugs? i have no sympathy for you. on a more positive note, at least you are stopping.

Wow, you're a complete and utter dick head. congratulations.

for telling the truth? you people are insane if this makes someone a complete and utter dickhead. there are tons of things that could have been said and would have sounded a lot worse. what would you call those people? uber total complete dickheads?

the OP said in the next post he doesnt care because it keeps him motivated, so obviously he agrees it wasnt a wise choice. you must be a drug addict or were in the past to get that offended by the blatant truth that drugs are stupid and people who do them are even more stupid.
I hope you insult your dad for taking his heart medication.
I mean, hey, "drugs are stupid and people who do them are even more stupid."
I'm going to assume that you never drink caffeinated beverages or alcohol and don't take tylenol or asprin.
Ass.:roll:

I also like how your avoided my response to your original statement, slick move buddy. :thumbsup:
 

Brutuskend

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I guess I'm REAL lucky.

I have taken them for semi long periods of time and then quit with NO with drawls whatsoever.

EDIT: But then I never took / take more than 1-2 a day. Just enough to take the edge off. I still feel some pain, but I can cope.

Oh, and for those who are on their soap box about how BAD all drugs are, we'll see how you feel after YOU start having unbearable pain all day every day. :roll:
 

KarmaPolice

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I wouldnt say you haev a high tolerence for pain..maybe you do maybe you dont but getting your wisdom teeth out is a crap shoot. for example..

I got mine out. I layed on the couch for a week, couldnt swallow anything, could barely talk, and was taking so much pain meds that I puked a lot.

My friend got his out. Was riding his bike the morning after.

It can go real well...or real bad.
 

teddyv

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I was on 90mg of Oxycontin a day for 3 months or so. I stopped taking it by switching to increasingly smaller doses of Vicodin over a 4-day period, then cold turkey. I was told this was more to gradually increase pain tolerance and I suspect as much if not more to overcome the difficulties of withdrawl. I had a few sleepless nights and finally came to noticed that external fixators in both arms and a leg are not so much fun.

Bite the bullet and ride it out - it will pass and you'll feel a lot better without the fog (and the constipation...)
 

TheGizmo

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Originally posted by: MisterJackson
I feel your pain man.....literally. I was up to 20 to 24 10mg (10/325) Hydrocodone (Norco) a.k.a. Lortab, some call it Vicodin I suppose. I'd been on the stuff for a little under 5 years. 12 10mg pills a day was a "good" day where I could "control" it.


On top of that I was going through a divorce/ugly custody battle and got pretty depressed so this one doc started me on Xanax. I wish to God I had NEVER taken one of those. I seriously thought I was dying one weekend when I ran out of those. My mom came by my place and literally broke in because I couldn't even get to the door and took me to the ER where they pumped me full of Vallium and such. Only then did I realize how close to death I actually was. My BP and pulse topped out at highly dangerous levels and untreated I likely would have had at least a stroke, maybe worse.

What most people fail to realize (Mr. Dude Man *ahem*) is that these pain meds aren't usually made for long term use yet some people never recover from their pain and have to be on them for longer periods of time. The Dr.'s are MORE than happy to keep handing you the scripts but condemn you if you abuse them (i.e. take more than they say you need to actually make them work against the pain). What they fail to think of (but know for fact) is that your body only compensates for this stuff over time. So where as the OP might take 120 to just feel normal again, not even acheiving a "high", that same size dose would kill someone like you Mr. Dude Man.

The OP didn't come here and say, "I'm hooked on ILLEGAL drugs" did he??? No. He's hooked on a legally manufactured and sold drug that, in my opinion, is worse than most street drugs out there.

I'm not defending the OP for seeking out that extra 40mg on the side, but having lived that life I can understand why he would. That's one thing I never had to do though thankfully because THERE WAS ALWAYS A DR. WILLING TO WRITE A SCRIPT.


It also sounds as if the OP knows this was wrong and is remorseful of it.

So to those who automatically say "I'll never understand you drug users".....no I suppose you never will. There's no way you can until you walk in their shoes. I pray to my God and whatever you may believe in that you never even once have to go down that road. Because if you did, and you asked for help, the last thing I'd do is point at you and call you weak or mock you.

Thank you :) That pretty much puts it into perspective. I know gettin the other 40mg wasn't a good idea.. but we all learn from our mistakes, either way its still a bad withdrawal.

That benzo withdrawal is crazy.. so it definately seems like opiate is not the worst withdrawal EVER. A good friend of mine goes thru that withdrawal like every other month b/c he runs out of his script a few days before the next one gets filled.. keeps asking his doctor to up the dose, but the doc won't budge.. probably for the best anyway.

 

TheGizmo

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
My wife is currently going through this, but it's being managed by her doctor.

She was on 1600mcg of Actiq 4x a day + 75mg Fentanyl transdermal.

She's stepping down now and is taking a Klonipin patch + Clonazepam to help with withdrawal symptoms. She's currently down to 800mcg of Actiq 4x a day + 50mg Fentanyl transdermal.

When she forgets to change a patch she gets very uncomfortable. Her legs ache and she can't sit still. I can't imagine what it would be like if she let it go any longer.

yea thats rough, thats a lot of fentanyl.. its good that she is able to ween off and not have a rediculous temptation to take more (like me)... well untilt this week
 

TheGizmo

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Originally posted by: Old Hippie
OP, try Kratom. Works wonders.

I tried this before, but not for withdrawal... it did produce a nice mild legal buzz though. I feel it has a cross-tolerance with opiates even though it is not an opiate at all. Strange.
 

TheGizmo

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Thanks everyone for the replies of suggestions/advice/and even the ones that don't know where I'm at and tell me drugs are bad.. (it really is good motivation).
 

duragezic

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Holy crap. Day 6 still blows? You're hurtin (sorry thats my now fav word for WDs). I'm hoping when I stop its only a few days that it is very bad. I cant afford to lose weight like that either (I'm trying to gain weight, and its slow going! would suck to lose it all in a matter of days)
 

TheGizmo

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Originally posted by: duragezic
Holy crap. Day 6 still blows? You're hurtin (sorry thats my now fav word for WDs). I'm hoping when I stop its only a few days that it is very bad. I cant afford to lose weight like that either (I'm trying to gain weight, and its slow going! would suck to lose it all in a matter of days)

I am trying to gain weight too :/ I have to start over after this is all over.

Originally posted by: Dragoon42
dude gogogogogoggo!!! keep it up

thanks :)
 

Tom

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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: Sphexi
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
what the hell is wrong with people who do drugs? i have no sympathy for you. on a more positive note, at least you are stopping.
Ass.

How is he an ass? OP admitted to taking more than was prescribed, and buying some "elsewhere" for recreational use, he shouldn't be given any sympathy for what he has to go through now.
He was possibly taking 40mg more than his prescribed dose of 120mg. At that level, 40mg really isn't that much more.

He'd be feeling pretty much exactly the same if he had stopped taking opiates while he was consuming his prescribed dosage.

My original point stands.


Your only point is you're an idiot.


 

tweakmm

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May 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: Tom
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: Sphexi
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
what the hell is wrong with people who do drugs? i have no sympathy for you. on a more positive note, at least you are stopping.
Ass.

How is he an ass? OP admitted to taking more than was prescribed, and buying some "elsewhere" for recreational use, he shouldn't be given any sympathy for what he has to go through now.
He was possibly taking 40mg more than his prescribed dose of 120mg. At that level, 40mg really isn't that much more.

He'd be feeling pretty much exactly the same if he had stopped taking opiates while he was consuming his prescribed dosage.

My original point stands.


Your only point is you're an idiot.
Excellent point.

I had not considered that. :thumbsup:
 

dug777

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Oct 13, 2004
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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: Tom
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: Sphexi
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
what the hell is wrong with people who do drugs? i have no sympathy for you. on a more positive note, at least you are stopping.
Ass.

How is he an ass? OP admitted to taking more than was prescribed, and buying some "elsewhere" for recreational use, he shouldn't be given any sympathy for what he has to go through now.
He was possibly taking 40mg more than his prescribed dose of 120mg. At that level, 40mg really isn't that much more.

He'd be feeling pretty much exactly the same if he had stopped taking opiates while he was consuming his prescribed dosage.

My original point stands.


Your only point is you're an idiot.
Interesting point.

Care to elaborate?

I assume since they have the cawksucking high & mighty moral ground, they will...;)


I'm r00ting for the OP, keep it up :beer:

 

moshquerade

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cold turkey is not the way to go for a lot of meds. although you know that now.
lesson (hopefully) learned the hard way.

feel better TheGizmo!
 
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Originally posted by: Kyle
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: Farbio
Originally posted by: Mill
Benzo withdrawal is worse. You won't believe me, but I promise it is.


after working in a detoxx and psych treatment facility, i will definitely disagree, benzo withdrawal is nothing near what opiate withdrawal is - the benzo user tends to have more relapses and end up back trying to withdrawal, but opiates, everything from oxycontin to heroin cause much worse physical withdrawals, as well as pyschotropic effects that we saw many times
I've never experienced either, but I do know for a fact that benzo withdrawal is pretty much the only withdrawal that one can actually die from.


Alcohol withdrawl can kill you too (hardcore alcoholics)

It WILL kill you if you stop cold.
 

duragezic

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Oct 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: Tom
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: Sphexi
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
what the hell is wrong with people who do drugs? i have no sympathy for you. on a more positive note, at least you are stopping.
Ass.

How is he an ass? OP admitted to taking more than was prescribed, and buying some "elsewhere" for recreational use, he shouldn't be given any sympathy for what he has to go through now.
He was possibly taking 40mg more than his prescribed dose of 120mg. At that level, 40mg really isn't that much more.

He'd be feeling pretty much exactly the same if he had stopped taking opiates while he was consuming his prescribed dosage.

My original point stands.


Your only point is you're an idiot.
edit: Bah screw it. I wanted him to elaborate too, but he has no idea wtf he is talking about so why bother. Everything tweak said in that post is true.
 

TallBill

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Apr 29, 2001
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I had caffeine withdrawels back when i drank coffee and quit, but all I got were massive headaches.
 
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Originally posted by: TallBill
I had caffeine withdrawels back when i drank coffee and quit, but all I got were massive headaches.



I hear caffine will help with that ;)


Hang in there OP, and keep us updated.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: duragezic
Holy crap. Day 6 still blows? You're hurtin (sorry thats my now fav word for WDs). I'm hoping when I stop its only a few days that it is very bad. I cant afford to lose weight like that either (I'm trying to gain weight, and its slow going! would suck to lose it all in a matter of days)

It was about 3 weeks before I stopped hurting all over from Benz withdrawal.