Let’s posit a slightly different scenario and see if you might have a different response.
Khali woke up to find the woman he’d been drinking with was using the credit card tied to the small business he owned to buy $1000’s of online merchandise.
Minnesota is one of the many states that says that for a victim to be too mentally incapacitated to give consent, they must have become intoxicated against their will, such as if a person secretly drugged someone's drink.
Since Khali had willingly drank 5 drinks before going home with her the judges ruled he had given consent to the purchases.
Would you have an issue with a law that allowed that?
I'm going to call your strawman and raise you a strawman...
Let's assume there is a man named Troy.
He took you out to Hooters for for your 21st birthday to celebrate.
Troy got shit faced drunk.
When it was time to pay the bill, you were under the impression he was taking you out for your birthday and would be paying.
But since he was so drunk he couldn't figure out the bill or to pull out a credit card and was incoherent.
Hooters, the bar, needed the bill paid. Is Troy responsible for the bill?
Or was he so drunk he was unable to consent to the drinks he consumed at Hooters? And that Hooters is responsible because they didn't "cut him off" earlier? Or is it your responsibility as his friend to pay the tab?
And now I'm going to raise you another strawman.
Let's assume there is a man named Bill.
He went out to the bar with his wife, and while at the bar he got shit faced.
His neighbor showed up at the bar and his neighbor started hitting on Bill's wife.
Bill's wife felt uncomfortable and asked Bill to leave.
When Bill arrived at home, he drank another 6 Budweiser's he had in his fridge and waited until his neighbor came back from the bar.
He decided to confront the neighbor in his driveway with a shotgun.
The neighbor called the cops. The guy enraged, shoots at the neighbor, but misses.
The cops arrest Bill and charge him for attempted murder.
Is Bill responsible for his actions? Or was he too drunk to know what he is doing?
And another for good measure.
Let's assume there is a man named Troy.
Troy went to the Gay 90's bar in downtown Minneapolis.
He got shit faced. He hit on a few girls. Maybe a few guys too.
He refused to leave when the rest of his friends decided to go because he was having too much fun.
In the process lost his cell phone somewhere in the bar.
When the bar closed he was kicked out on the street and his friends nowhere to be found.
He had no phone to call a cab and nobody was going to deal with someone barely able to stand.
He wandered around downtown Minneapolis for awhile trying to figure out what to do.
He next remembered waking up in the hospital with a fractured eye socket and his wallet missing. He assumed he was mugged but doesn't remember a thing.
Is Troy responsible for his actions?
(Troy is a friend of mine and true stories here, Bill's story is fictional)
At what point does a person's actions become their responsibility? Drinking and alcohol doesn't give consent. Drinking and alcohol doesn't absolve the person of their responsibly for situations they put themselves in.
Women's Drinking 101 Life Skills class tells the woman not to get shit faced at the bar while out on a date or while alone. They need to go out with friends or a buddy to prevent things from happening. If she went to the bar, got shit faced, went home with a dude... The law has decided in MN the responsibility land on the drunk person for the situation they are in. It sucks, but its completely preventable.
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