One of the many reasons why Fry's Electronics is the LAST place anyone should ever shop...

douglasb

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I bought a Gigabyte Triton board from Fry's in Webster, TX for $100 + tax. I ended up not needing the board, and returned it, still sealed, with the plastic straps that they put on all their motherboards (who knows why they do this, but it's their policy). The board has obviously never been touched, but the Fry's employee working the return counter found it necessary to get out his utility knife, cut the box open, and check everything out. In the process, he managed to spill everything short of the board itself all over the table and floor. This merchandise was still brand-new up to this point, but is now used, and I am confident it will go right back on the shelf with a white sticker on it and a discount of $1.25 or so. If you for some reason find yourself shopping at Fry's, DO NOT buy anything with a white sticker on it that says it has been "checked and OK" by a Fry's employee. In this particular case, it was opened and dropped by a Fry's employee, and he didn't check anything. I seriously don't even know why he decided to cut the box open, but it's Fry's - what can you expect?

So after I give them my name and phone number (I have NO clue why they need this, as I paid cash for the item, had the receipt with the item's matching serial number, and wanted to receive cash back - simple transaction, right? NOPE!), the idiot returns person spelled my last name wrong by ONE LETTER, "D" instead of "B". They give me the green sheet of paper that I'm supposed to take to the cashier for my refund, so I take it there.
Thanks to a misspelling of one letter, they won't give it to me, even though I still have the original receipt, and Fry's is actually paranoid enough to record the serial number from the board when you buy it. So unless Gigabyte made two of these boards with the same serial number, there is nobody that this refund could belong to but me, and anyone with half a brain should be able to see that.

After talking to the cashier, she calls a manager, and this is where things start to get ugly. After about 30 minutes of getting the runaround from his underlings, naturally, I'm going to be upset. I calmly explain the situation to the manager and ask him to fix it, and he tells me he isn't authorized to do that, even though he is the active store manager. Apparently you need a notarized document in triplicate from the CEO of Fry's to get a refund if they screw it up. After trying to reason with him for about 30 minutes, I am furious. I ask him what I'm supposed to do with this $108-and-change green sheet of paper, and he tells me it is "not his concern." I have a pretty good idea what "his concern" is, and it probably involves him pocketing an extra hundred bucks for the day. Anyways, since I can't get my refund, I ask for the board back, thinking I can return it again and make sure they spell my name right. The box has been opened, parts dropped, and I don't even care at this point. I just want to walk out of there with SOMETHING since I paid $100 + tax for an item, returned it, and received a green sheet of paper. Apparently the manager isn't authorized to do this either, because the board has to go back to the manufacturer. So an unopened board gets bungled up by a clumsy employee, Fry's is going to RMA it to Gigabyte, and both Gigabyte and the customer get the shaft since this kind of crap is what makes prices rise. When I hear that I can't get my money back OR the motherboard, I start to lose it.

I begin telling the manager very loudly, loud enough for everyone in the immediate area to hear, that essentially they are stealing from me. At this point, the manager calls one of his security goons to stand next to him and try to intimidate me. I won't have any of it, and continue to argue my case, that they are stealing my money. The manager's solution? He tells me I have to leave or he is calling the police and charging me with trespassing. So now I am going to write to Fry's corporate office tomorrow and demand a check for the proper amount, and I doubt that I will receive it, or even a written apology. After that, I have no choice but to write the Better Business Bureau of Houston and add yet another complaint to this Fry's location, which already has an "unsatisfactory" rating. The only other thing I can do is spread my story, and warn anyone against shopping at Fry's at all. If you do shop at Fry's, use a credit card that will allow you to do a "chargeback" when they try to screw you like they did to me.

The bottom line: Fry's STOLE over $100 from me because their employees are incompetent, the management is unreasonable, and the return policy is RIDICULOUS. Seriously, anywhere else on earth, I give the merchandise back, show the receipt, they give me the cash. End of transaction. No green paper involved for some imbecile to screw up so I end up paying a hundred bucks for nothing but an urge to strangle someone. If you have ever been done wrong by Fry's, please do me a favor and spread this message around wherever you can. My experience cost me about $108, but in the end, it will cost Fry's MUCH more than that in lost business. I have spent thousands of dollars there, and will not spend another penny in that dump as long as I live.
 
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Ouch, might want to get the local media envolved...that will make them tune their attitude real quick.

Here in San Diego, 3 of the main news stations had a segment where the dealt with consumer issues in the community.
 

Kelvrick

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You pay with cash, or credit? If with credit, call up the credit card company, get the chargeback, and go to sleep knowing VISA or MC just gave frys the shaft.

With cash, well, tough cookies but I've always gotten my items returned easily (only complaint is a wait if there is a line). That, and they're required to open everything since some people like to take things out of the box and just shrink wrap it again.

EDIT: The rant was of the right size, but iono, it lacked passion for some reason, although I think if I was in your situation, I'd have plenty of passion in my rant.

Oh, and they actually checked your ID for the refund?
 

douglasb

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Originally posted by: Mike
Ouch, might want to get the local media envolved...that will make them tune their attitude real quick.

Here in San Diego, 3 of the main news stations had a segment where the dealt with consumer issues in the community.

Good idea, but in a major city like Houston, most of the investigative reporting they do is on stuff like the Tom DeLay scandal or government employees stealing, police brutality, that sort of thing. I think I can reach a wider audience here, because this sort of story probably wouldn't even be considered by the news stations over here. There is this one old guy, Marvin Zindler, who does stories like that to "help out the little guy" but he is bombarded with requests, and it's usually for things like getting a new wheelchair for someone who can't afford it, or surgery for a child, etc. I just wouldn't feel right even if my story did make his segment, because there are a lot of people with worse problems that could use his help. I just want to get some sort of satisfaction, and let everyone know how Fry's operates, if they don't already. There are literally hundreds of Fry's horror stories scattered throughout the web, and this is just another one, but every customer they lose is a victory for me in a way, because I don't think I will ever see my money again, and if they are going to steal from me, I think I should try my best to "steal some business" away from them.
 

gsethi

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I dont know why the cashier refused to refund you because of a spelling error on that green sheet. That green sheet is like a Frys Store Credit. You can use that to purchase anything from the store. (it must have a barcode on the top).

Go back to Frys, go straight to the checkout cashier (not the return department or customer service), give that green sheet to them. They will ask you to sign the bottom (meaning that you are cashing it out) and should give you the cash instantly. You dont need to show them your ID or anything.

You should have told the manager to talk with the incompetent CSR who processed your return and asked him to review the tapes before calling the security guard on you. If I were you, I would be sending a legal notice to them for the manager insulting you in public and threatening to call police on you for no fault of yours.

Do you have a cell phone ? next time use it and call your Attorney from right at the spot. And oh, he just cant charge you with trespassing b/c apparently the store is open for public and you were present in the public hours. Maybe go back later tomorrow, talk with the store manager and ask for an apology letter. Tell them to review the tapes from the day incident occured and tell them how badly you were treated.

and if they offer you anything in lieu of the trouble you went through, get it in writing as to why you are being offered something extra. (I doubt they would give you anything in writing though)

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and next time, dont shout or scream. Trust me, I have done this in my early college days and it gets you nowhere. Talk calmly and politely (address the other person as Sir or Maam ;)) but be firm. This way, things get done much faster in your favor.

EDIT 2:
When returning, they will open and inspect everything. I have had Frys open brand new, sealed shrink wrapped hard drives to make sure that the serial numbers on the outer box, on the receipt and on the hard drive all match and all the manuals and cables are included. They think that someone would go through the pain of shrink wrapping the retail boxes again ?? Must be that they were scammed big time in the early days (who knows) ?
 

douglasb

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Originally posted by: intogamer
Ouch!

Small Claims Court :)

Interestingly enough, I already have a Small Claims case pending because my car was totalled by an uninsured motorist and I don't have anything other than liability insurance (yeah, I'm poor). It costs $65 to file a claim for them to even LOOK at, which doesn't guarantee that they will hear your case, then it takes 3 months to set a court date, and $50 for each subpoena. Even though it would be a "moral victory" I would lose money and it would take over 3 months, so that's not an option at all. I can rant and rave on here for free ;)
 

uhohs

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there was nothing wrong in the first paragraph of your rant. they do all that to prevent fraud.
 

neegotiator

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Originally posted by: douglasb
Originally posted by: Mike
Ouch, might want to get the local media envolved...that will make them tune their attitude real quick.

Here in San Diego, 3 of the main news stations had a segment where the dealt with consumer issues in the community.

Good idea, but in a major city like Houston, most of the investigative reporting they do is on stuff like the Tom DeLay scandal or government employees stealing, police brutality, that sort of thing. I think I can reach a wider audience here, because this sort of story probably wouldn't even be considered by the news stations over here. There is this one old guy, Marvin Zindler, who does stories like that to "help out the little guy" but he is bombarded with requests, and it's usually for things like getting a new wheelchair for someone who can't afford it, or surgery for a child, etc. I just wouldn't feel right even if my story did make his segment, because there are a lot of people with worse problems that could use his help. I just want to get some sort of satisfaction, and let everyone know how Fry's operates, if they don't already. There are literally hundreds of Fry's horror stories scattered throughout the web, and this is just another one, but every customer they lose is a victory for me in a way, because I don't think I will ever see my money again, and if they are going to steal from me, I think I should try my best to "steal some business" away from them.

that dude's still around? isn't he the 'slime in the ice machines' guy?? anyways, sorry to hear that dude, I really hope you get this figured out
 

intogamer

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Yeah looks like Frys is very strict and doesn't override stuff easily

doesn't the CEO have better things to do than fix borked refunds?
 

douglasb

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Originally posted by: gsethi
I dont know why the cashier refused to refund you because of a spelling error on that green sheet. That green sheet is like a Frys Store Credit. You can use that to purchase anything from the store. (it must have a barcode on the top).

Go back to Frys, go straight to the checkout cashier (not the return department or customer service), give that green sheet to them. They will ask you to sign the bottom (meaning that you are cashing it out) and should give you the cash instantly. You dont need to show them your ID or anything.

You should have told the manager to talk with the incompetent CSR who processed your return and asked him to review the tapes before calling the security guard on you. If I were you, I would be sending a legal notice to them for the manager insulting you in public and threatening to call police on you for no fault of yours.

Do you have a cell phone ? next time use it and call your Attorney from right at the spot. And oh, he just cant charge you with trespassing b/c apparently the store is open for public and you were present in the public hours. Maybe go back later tomorrow, talk with the store manager and ask for an apology letter. Tell them to review the tapes from the day incident occured and tell them how badly you were treated.

and if they offer you anything in lieu of the trouble you went through, get it in writing as to why you are being offered something extra. (I doubt they would give you anything in writing though)

Actually, they DO ask for ID, which is why I couldn't get the refund in the first place. Had there been no misspelling, there wouldn't have been a problem. I did everything you said as far as telling him about the mistake and the return counter person, and they claimed once it's done, they can't fix it. I'm convinced they just were going to take my money, pure and simple.

Trust me, I don't have and can't afford an Attorney. Even if I could, it would cost way more than what I lost on the motherboard. I don't know if it's legal for him to charge me with trespassing or not, but I wasn't going to find out the hard way. I DO know it's illegal for them to stop you at the door and check your bag - it's called illegal detainment. It's illegal and probably half as effective and twice as expensive as RF tagging their merchandise and putting a detector at the door to go off when someone shoplifts. I don't know who makes the company policies, but I wouldn't buy any of their stock, I can tell you that much. I get the impression that the company is run by baboons.
 

gsethi

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Originally posted by: douglasb
Originally posted by: gsethi
I dont know why the cashier refused to refund you because of a spelling error on that green sheet. That green sheet is like a Frys Store Credit. You can use that to purchase anything from the store. (it must have a barcode on the top).

Go back to Frys, go straight to the checkout cashier (not the return department or customer service), give that green sheet to them. They will ask you to sign the bottom (meaning that you are cashing it out) and should give you the cash instantly. You dont need to show them your ID or anything.

You should have told the manager to talk with the incompetent CSR who processed your return and asked him to review the tapes before calling the security guard on you. If I were you, I would be sending a legal notice to them for the manager insulting you in public and threatening to call police on you for no fault of yours.

Do you have a cell phone ? next time use it and call your Attorney from right at the spot. And oh, he just cant charge you with trespassing b/c apparently the store is open for public and you were present in the public hours. Maybe go back later tomorrow, talk with the store manager and ask for an apology letter. Tell them to review the tapes from the day incident occured and tell them how badly you were treated.

and if they offer you anything in lieu of the trouble you went through, get it in writing as to why you are being offered something extra. (I doubt they would give you anything in writing though)

Actually, they DO ask for ID, which is why I couldn't get the refund in the first place. Had there been no misspelling, there wouldn't have been a problem. I did everything you said as far as telling him about the mistake and the return counter person, and they claimed once it's done, they can't fix it. I'm convinced they just were going to take my money, pure and simple.

Trust me, I don't have and can't afford an Attorney. Even if I could, it would cost way more than what I lost on the motherboard. I don't know if it's legal for him to charge me with trespassing or not, but I wasn't going to find out the hard way. I DO know it's illegal for them to stop you at the door and check your bag - it's called illegal detainment. It's illegal and probably half as effective and twice as expensive as RF tagging their merchandise and putting a detector at the door to go off when someone shoplifts. I don't know who makes the company policies, but I wouldn't buy any of their stock, I can tell you that much. I get the impression that the company is run by baboons.


They have never asked me for my ID when I have went to the cashier to get my $$$ back (over here in CA). I dont know why they asked you for your ID...is this the first time they asked you for ID or they always ask ?

If they would ask me for my ID, I would say "no, you dont need one. You have the receipt and thats all you need to process my return and refund me".

Even if you dont have an attorney, you can just take out your phone and act as if you are going to call your attorney :p trust me, that works wonders sometimes but you have to judge as to when to use that trick. (btw, i have an attorney :) but have still used this trick couple of times and has worked when I know that the other person was completly wrong). Even asking for the name and Employee ID of the other person sends some shivers down his body. you have to write them down on a piece of paper along with the time and location and not just memorize it. These little tricks do help and sometimes work in those times of needs

EDIT: You can still use that Green sheet as CASH at Frys for your next purchase or get a refund when you go there next time. Just go directly to the cashier and give it to them. If they ask for your ID, ask them why (That green sheet could have been a gift certificate given to you by someone else ;) ). If they mention the spelling mistake, tell them it was the CSRs fault and not yours. AGAIN, TALK POLITELY and CALMLY but be FIRM.

EDIT 2: and you cannot buy their stock as the company is privately held, its not public :p I dont normally shop at Frys, only go there for emergency stuff that I need (or when there is some very good deals ... like those 200gb seagate hard drives for ~60 couple of yrs ago)

btw, you are looking for the Scythe Ninja hsf. I think that newegg has them on sale for $39 shipped (the SCNJ-1000P version that comes with the fan also).
 

Tig Ol Bitties

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Sorry to hear your misfortunes, sounds like you got a bunch of Nazis workin at your location following some military rulebook. I too live in california and have 4 Fry's within 20 miles from where I live and returned stuff I paid with cash to all of them at one point or another and not once did they ever ask for ID for that stupid green sheet.

As gsethi stated, you should have forwarded that manager to the idiot who did your return since it was HIS mistake for messing up your name, unless that runaround you stated involved all of that. If so, then yea, I wouldnt shop there again until I got my refund and call HQ or whatever.

 

CrackRabbit

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Someone who is rather close to me works for Fry's (she was a CS supervisor until recently) and worked at the Webster location, the customer service management there is rude and incompotent, try taking your green sheet to the store on 59@ 610 in Sugarland, much better staff there, even if the store is in a worse part of town.
Also as others have stated that green sheet is basicaly a gift certificate, good at any fry's store. Simply go in and say you want to cash it out. They should oblige without any hassle at all.
 

imported_Phil

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Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Someone who is rather close to me works for Fry's (she was a CS supervisor until recently) and worked at the Webster location, the customer service management there is rude and incompotent, try taking your green sheet to the store on 59@ 610 in Sugarland, much better staff there, even if the store is in a worse part of town.
Also as others have stated that green sheet is basicaly a gift certificate, good at any fry's store. Simply go in and say you want to cash it out. They should oblige without any hassle at all.

Yeah, just say that your ID is at home or something.
 

neegotiator

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Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Someone who is rather close to me works for Fry's (she was a CS supervisor until recently) and worked at the Webster location, the customer service management there is rude and incompotent, try taking your green sheet to the store on 59@ 610 in Sugarland, much better staff there, even if the store is in a worse part of town.
Also as others have stated that green sheet is basicaly a gift certificate, good at any fry's store. Simply go in and say you want to cash it out. They should oblige without any hassle at all.

hey i resent that! ;)
 

CrackRabbit

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Originally posted by: neegotiator
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Someone who is rather close to me works for Fry's (she was a CS supervisor until recently) and worked at the Webster location, the customer service management there is rude and incompotent, try taking your green sheet to the store on 59@ 610 in Sugarland, much better staff there, even if the store is in a worse part of town.
Also as others have stated that green sheet is basicaly a gift certificate, good at any fry's store. Simply go in and say you want to cash it out. They should oblige without any hassle at all.

hey i resent that! ;)


Oh downtown Sugarland is nice enough, but the area the fry's is in is farking GHETTO.
 

rhino56

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wow i would never shop there with a rating of 3.10
i always check reseller ratings if i go outside of newegg or jab-tech

fry's rating
 

CrackRabbit

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Originally posted by: rhino56
wow i would never shop there with a rating of 3.10
i always check reseller ratings if i go outside of newegg or jab-tech

fry's rating


Just so you know, like oh so many companies now, Outpost.com is a wholy separate entity from the Fry's retail stores.
 

KoopaTroopa

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Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Someone who is rather close to me works for Fry's (she was a CS supervisor until recently) and worked at the Webster location, the customer service management there is rude and incompotent, try taking your green sheet to the store on 59@ 610 in Sugarland, much better staff there, even if the store is in a worse part of town.
Also as others have stated that green sheet is basicaly a gift certificate, good at any fry's store. Simply go in and say you want to cash it out. They should oblige without any hassle at all.

out of curiosity, who's this CS supervisor you know? just wanted to know, because last time i returned a product, this really gorgeous lady took my return - and she said she was one of the only people who had been there since the webster location originally opened. grew up and went to high school in that area.

anyhow, i think you mean 59 and beltway 8, not 59 and 610
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Someone who is rather close to me works for Fry's (she was a CS supervisor until recently) and worked at the Webster location, the customer service management there is rude and incompotent, try taking your green sheet to the store on 59@ 610 in Sugarland, much better staff there, even if the store is in a worse part of town.
Also as others have stated that green sheet is basicaly a gift certificate, good at any fry's store. Simply go in and say you want to cash it out. They should oblige without any hassle at all.

lol Sugar land is way better part of town than NASA area wtf are you smoking.. our property values are through the roof...

and Frys in general rocks never had a problem with them.. delt with them all the time when I lived in Palo Alto CA. and still use the sugar land store about 1 time a week.. never had any issues and Ive returned alot of stuff..
 

captains

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the beauty of having a lawyer is that u can call them anytime... i would have stood right next to the manager and said hold on i'm calling my lawyer.. call lawyer talk about how you want to sue each employee and the store and start taking names... prolly within 5 mins u would have your refund and be on your way... if not your already on the phone with your lawyer, follow through with the next appropriate steps
 

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Originally posted by: Mike
Ouch, might want to get the local media envolved...that will make them tune their attitude real quick.

Here in San Diego, 3 of the main news stations had a segment where the dealt with consumer issues in the community.