OMG my friend just bought a Mac Powerbook...

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: GL

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: SpiderX
And she just asked me if a certain website was "mac compatible".

And why did she buy a mac you may ask? Because she thought they were cute. :disgust:

Is she blond or a former star in the shortlived sitcom "Clueless"?

I could see it if she were a Mac person, but buying a 95% incompatible notebook albeit a fast one because it looks cute....is bordrline nuts. But then again, isn't this Steve Jobs target group?

Jobs is targetting both extremes. He's targetting the university research market/scientific computing community on one end and the media hub newbie market on the other end of the spectrum. He's leaving the void in between that holds the masses for the PC.

Ornery
That hardware switch I think you've heard about was the transition to PowerPC in the early 90s. Apple is sticking with that for years and years to come. Eventually the x86 crowd will have to dump IA32 as well so you'll see this same transition.

He is also targetting professional admins and developers. In fact, most of the people I know that own Macs are developers/admins or something in between.

Exactly. I am a network admin/engineer and I use Macs all the time.

 

Originally posted by: ElFenix
albooks kick arse

 

[Ornery]

I won't even dabble with AMD because of the compatibility with my other equipment. These machines get upgraded and parts passed from one PC to another all the time. Throwing an AMD into the mix screws that all up. Hardware isn't as much of an issue with a notebook, since it's so proprietary in the first place, but at least the software can, or should be swappable.

If I were buying my very first PC or notebook today, I'd still be worried about compatibility with peers and future upgrades. Going against the grain is all well and good till it starts costing me a premium. I can snag used parts and software for next to nothing for a Wintel machine. VERY easily obtainable, too. Can the same be said for Macs? Why would I want to take the chance, and pay extra for the privilege?

Thanks for the explanation on the Power PC thing. I've never been clear on that.

 

[SpiderX]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: SpiderX
And she just asked me if a certain website was "mac compatible".

And why did she buy a mac you may ask? Because she thought they were cute. :disgust:

Is she blond or a former star in the shortlived sitcom "Clueless"?

I could see it if she were a Mac person, but buying a 95% incompatible notebook albeit a fast one because it looks cute....is bordrline nuts. But then again, isn't this Steve Jobs target group?

She's blonde. Utterly blonde. lol

 

[MercenaryForHire]

I can't believe no one's said it yet.

:camera:s?

Edit - Also, SpiderX, your sig promises bewbies. Following links gets you nowhere other than to the SilentLightning home page, which I might ask why the hell it wants to open a secure site connection and then break it?

- M4H

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: mooojojojo

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: SpiderX
And she just asked me if a certain website was "mac compatible".

And why did she buy a mac you may ask? Because she thought they were cute. :disgust:

Is she blond or a former star in the shortlived sitcom "Clueless"?

I could see it if she were a Mac person, but buying a 95% incompatible notebook albeit a fast one because it looks cute....is bordrline nuts. But then again, isn't this Steve Jobs target group?

what's incompatible about the powerbook?

It's operating system with the majority of software?

Other than CrapUSA and Apple stores where can you purchase Mac software B&M?

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
I can't believe no one's said it yet.

:camera:s?

Edit - Also, SpiderX, your sig promises bewbies. Following links gets you nowhere other than to the SilentLightning home page, which I might ask why the hell it wants to open a secure site connection and then break it?

- M4H

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: mooojojojo

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: SpiderX
And she just asked me if a certain website was "mac compatible".

And why did she buy a mac you may ask? Because she thought they were cute. :disgust:

Is she blond or a former star in the shortlived sitcom "Clueless"?

I could see it if she were a Mac person, but buying a 95% incompatible notebook albeit a fast one because it looks cute....is bordrline nuts. But then again, isn't this Steve Jobs target group?

what's incompatible about the powerbook?

It's operating system with the majority of software?

Other than CrapUSA and Apple stores where can you purchase Mac software B&M?

MicroCenter sells Apple software. And why would you buy software at a B&M store anyway? There are a LOT of places you can buy software for Apple online.

There are TONS of software titles available for Apple computers. There is nothing incompatible about them.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: mooojojojo

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: SpiderX
And she just asked me if a certain website was "mac compatible".

And why did she buy a mac you may ask? Because she thought they were cute. :disgust:

Is she blond or a former star in the shortlived sitcom "Clueless"?

I could see it if she were a Mac person, but buying a 95% incompatible notebook albeit a fast one because it looks cute....is bordrline nuts. But then again, isn't this Steve Jobs target group?

what's incompatible about the powerbook?

It's operating system with the majority of software?

The majority of software is crap. I don't want to load more crap on my Mac.

Other than CrapUSA and Apple stores where can you purchase Mac software B&M?

One was mentioned, and I know of atleast one local shop here that sells Mac software.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Aceshigh

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Aceshigh
Blah.

Apple is the AOL of the computer hardware world. I'm not suprised a new Mac owner would ask if a site is mac-compatible.

*Shrug* It's a perfectly valid question, Safari isn't IE 6, so there are a handful of sites out there that will outright block you if you aren't using a machine with IE 6.

Apple has Internet Explorer.

An older version, and not for too much longer.

Even then, some of the stricter sites won't work if it's not the PC version of IE5/6.

 

[MistaTastyCakes]

Pics? Chances are she could be hot as long as she doesn't talk.

 

[tRaptor]

Originally posted by: MistaTastyCakes
Pics? Chances are she could be hot as long as she doesn't talk.

lol

 

[hdeck]

her powerbook > you

 

[mooojojojo]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: mooojojojo

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: SpiderX
And she just asked me if a certain website was "mac compatible".

And why did she buy a mac you may ask? Because she thought they were cute. :disgust:

Is she blond or a former star in the shortlived sitcom "Clueless"?

I could see it if she were a Mac person, but buying a 95% incompatible notebook albeit a fast one because it looks cute....is bordrline nuts. But then again, isn't this Steve Jobs target group?

what's incompatible about the powerbook?

It's operating system with the majority of software?

Other than CrapUSA and Apple stores where can you purchase Mac software B&M?

which software is that exactly?

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Aceshigh

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Aceshigh
Blah.

Apple is the AOL of the computer hardware world. I'm not suprised a new Mac owner would ask if a site is mac-compatible.

*Shrug* It's a perfectly valid question, Safari isn't IE 6, so there are a handful of sites out there that will outright block you if you aren't using a machine with IE 6.

Apple has Internet Explorer.

An older version, and not for too much longer.

Even then, some of the stricter sites won't work if it's not the PC version of IE5/6.

Name one (other than Windows Update).

 

[mooojojojo]

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Aceshigh

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Aceshigh
Blah.

Apple is the AOL of the computer hardware world. I'm not suprised a new Mac owner would ask if a site is mac-compatible.

*Shrug* It's a perfectly valid question, Safari isn't IE 6, so there are a handful of sites out there that will outright block you if you aren't using a machine with IE 6.

Apple has Internet Explorer.

An older version, and not for too much longer.

Even then, some of the stricter sites won't work if it's not the PC version of IE5/6.

Name one (other than Windows Update).

well actually there are sitekreator.com is one. it's a product of the company I work for.. there are even features that won't work unless it's IE6 (I don't know exactly - I'm not a dev). but if I'm correct it requires IE5 at least.

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: mooojojojo

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Aceshigh

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Aceshigh
Blah.

Apple is the AOL of the computer hardware world. I'm not suprised a new Mac owner would ask if a site is mac-compatible.

*Shrug* It's a perfectly valid question, Safari isn't IE 6, so there are a handful of sites out there that will outright block you if you aren't using a machine with IE 6.

Apple has Internet Explorer.

An older version, and not for too much longer.

Even then, some of the stricter sites won't work if it's not the PC version of IE5/6.

Name one (other than Windows Update).

well actually there are sitekreator.com is one. it's a product of the company I work for.. there are even features that won't work unless it's IE6 (I don't know exactly - I'm not a dev). but if I'm correct it requires IE5 at least.

I am sure that there are pages that require Internet Explorer, but I have never run into one. I went to www.sitekreator.com on my iMac using IE 5.2 and it worked fine. I also attempted to load it using Mozilla on my PC and it did make mention of my browser not being compatible.

 

[mooojojojo]

I won't quote because it's getting too long.

Did you try using it? Like signing up and adding text and images and whatnot? I'd be grateful if you try Safari on it. No mac here to test it..

 

Originally posted by: mooojojojo

well actually there are sitekreator.com is one. it's a product of the company I work for.. there are even features that won't work unless it's IE6 (I don't know exactly - I'm not a dev). but if I'm correct it requires IE5 at least.

Any company that codes not only to one specific browser, but to one specific version of that browser does not deserve business.

 

[mooojojojo]

Originally posted by: dwell

Originally posted by: mooojojojo

well actually there are sitekreator.com is one. it's a product of the company I work for.. there are even features that won't work unless it's IE6 (I don't know exactly - I'm not a dev). but if I'm correct it requires IE5 at least.

Any company that codes not only to one specific browser, but to one specific version of that browser does not deserve business.

I'm sure you're right.
And everything that can be implemented with IE6 is for sure possible on Netscape.

 

Originally posted by: mooojojojo

I'm sure you're right.
And everything that can be implemented with IE6 is for sure possible on Netscape.

The Gecko engine which powers Mozilla, Netscape, Firebird, Camino, etc is the most standards compliant . If you code towards it chances it will work on anything.

 

[mooojojojo]

Originally posted by: dwell

Originally posted by: mooojojojo

I'm sure you're right.
And everything that can be implemented with IE6 is for sure possible on Netscape.

The Gecko engine which powers Mozilla, Netscape, Firebird, Camino, etc is the most standards compliant . If you code towards it chances it will work on anything.

and what if the standards don't have the required features?

 

Originally posted by: mooojojojo

and what if the standards don't have the required features?

Then you are doing it wrong. That's the point of standards is to make your site accessible to everyone. If you want to isolate a portion of your audience just for some whiz-bang feature only found in IE 6 you really need to step back and rethink your strategy.

 

[mooojojojo]

Originally posted by: dwell

Originally posted by: mooojojojo

and what if the standards don't have the required features?

Then you are doing it wrong. That's the point of standards is to make your site accessible to everyone. If you want to isolate a portion of your audience just for some whiz-bang feature only found in IE 6 you really need to step back and rethink your strategy.

it's not my stragegy but I can see you're pretty smart. what do you do?

btw - did you see the site before speaking?

 

Originally posted by: mooojojojo

it's not my stragegy but I can see you're pretty smart. what do you do?

btw - did you see the site before speaking?

Yes. Just because your guys coded to IE does not mean it's not possible under other browers. Some friends of mine coded almost the exact same concept which worked under Netscape back in 2001.