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OMG, More Terrorism In Kashmir

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routan said:
uh, i didnt present it as "news". Even "news" will bring a slant to events. I posted this article to present voices of the people of Kashmir, so that people sitting on their couches posting away "facts" about a far off region are aware of the ground realities the people on the ground face.
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OMG, More Terrorism In Kashmir

...but you did post this as news, as evidenced by your thread title. If you were posting this as only opinion, a more honest title would have been "some guy in Kashmir has some thoughts about recent events." You have to realize that "terrorism" is a word that many people would not apply to this news story; it is a word that was used because of the author's bias - and presumably yours as well.
 
What, no routed fans have shown up yet to defend him? He'll thank you for your post if he agrees with you.

Ganesha may be silly, but how many murders have been committed in his name this past year?
 
NuclearNed said:
OMG, More Terrorism In Kashmir

...but you did post this as news, as evidenced by your thread title. If you were posting this as only opinion, a more honest title would have been "some guy in Kashmir has some thoughts about recent events." You have to realize that "terrorism" is a word that many people would not apply to this news story; it is a word that was used because of the author's bias - and presumably yours as well.
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NuclearNed, the thread title was in sarcasm, as there is no terrorism, but protests occurring in Kashmir, with protestors being shot at, and killed.
 
yasasvy said:
Moron, you have no sense of reality. Why do you think India spends millions of dollars on a single base on top of Siachen. It is also the worlds highest military base.

Have you ever read anything about Kargil war, and how it was fought?

It is easier to infiltrate into main land using the cover of mountains. Have you even wondered why is it taking so freaking long to catch a man known as Osama?
There is more probability that he will die of natural causes than by America/NATO bullets.
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Moron, if you read my post, you would have a better understanding of what I said. You are suggesting that Kashmir can be used as staging area for attack on mainland India. The mountaineous regions are on the North and West of Kashmir. Not the South and East. South and East is relatively flat terrain. So in the end, any attacks would still emanate from flat lands, which is the same as the long border between the two countries.
 
It's not just on AnandTech that people consider Pakistan guilty before proven innocent. Everyone everywhere considers Pakistan guilty before proven innocent. You might want to ponder why that is.
 
routan said:
Moron, if you read my post, you would have a better understanding of what I said. You are suggesting that Kashmir can be used as staging area for attack on mainland India. The mountaineous regions are on the North and West of Kashmir. Not the South and East. South and East is relatively flat terrain. So in the end, any attacks would still emanate from flat lands, which is the same as the long border between the two countries.
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Gosh, you need some geography lessons.

Now, where are the Terrorist camps located in Pakistan?

1. In POK
2. Along the Pak-Afghan border

What is the easiest and safest way to get into India from the camps in POK ?

Ans: Kashmir

Why is infiltration a serious issue in Kashmir, but not in other states along the border?

Ans: There are no terrorist camps in the states of Punjab and Sindh.

Why is that?

Ans: There are no terrorist camps because, Punjab(Largest economy of any state) and Sindh(2nd largest) are two of the most developed states in Pakistan and there is no place for spreading that fundamental Islamic shit cos people are busy doing something that is useful for the development of your country. These two states are helping Pakistan from becoming a completely failed state.
 
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yasasvy said:
Ans: There are no terrorist camps because, Punjab(Largest economy of any state) and Sindh(2nd largest) are two of the most developed states in Pakistan and there is no place for spreading that fundamental Islamic shit cos people are busy doing something that is useful for the development of your country. These two states are helping Pakistan from becoming a completely failed state.
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Isn't that because all the fighting in Punjab is Sikh and Hindus killing each other?
 
Orignal Earl said:
Isn't that because all the fighting in Punjab is Sikh and Hindus killing each other?
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India and Pakistan, both have Punjab as one of the states. Same names, different location.

There was no fighting between Hindu's and Sikhs. It was between Sikhs and the rest of India, for assassination of Indira Gandhi(Former Prime Minister of India).

A little history behind that:

Indira Gandhi was assassinated in retribution of killing a separatist/extremist leader known as Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale.

Read: Operation Blue Star.
Also read: Bombing of Air-India 182.
 
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Originally Posted by routan said:
uh, the border between the two countries is massive. Very stupid suggestion that any armed venture would go through a mountaineous region to then reach a flat terrain (to be completely visible), and then proceed to attack.
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MotF Bane said:
Fail.
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Let him be,. He is using madrassa math and jihadi logic.
 
yasasvy said:
Gosh, you need some geography lessons.

Now, where are the Terrorist camps located in Pakistan?

1. In POK
2. Along the Pak-Afghan border

What is the easiest and safest way to get into India from the camps in POK ?

Ans: Kashmir

Why is infiltration a serious issue in Kashmir, but not in other states along the border?

Ans: There are no terrorist camps in the states of Punjab and Sindh.

Why is that?

Ans: There are no terrorist camps because, Punjab(Largest economy of any state) and Sindh(2nd largest) are two of the most developed states in Pakistan and there is no place for spreading that fundamental Islamic shit cos people are busy doing something that is useful for the development of your country. These two states are helping Pakistan from becoming a completely failed state.
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Incredible. You know this information. The world doesnt do anything.

I am sure you have verifiable sources for this. lol 🙄
 
yllus said:
It's not just on AnandTech that people consider Pakistan guilty before proven innocent. Everyone everywhere considers Pakistan guilty before proven innocent. You might want to ponder why that is.
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"Everyone" is quite a stretch. But yes, the majority of people in United States also believe Obama is a Muslim. Illiteracy and stupidness go a long way.
 
yasasvy said:
India and Pakistan, both have Punjab as one of the states. Same names, different location.

There was no fighting between Hindu's and Sikhs. It was between Sikhs and the rest of India, for assassination of Indira Gandhi(Former Prime Minister of India).

A little history behind that:

Indira Gandhi was assassinated in retribution of killing a separatist/extremist leader known as Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale.

Read: Operation Blue Star.
Also read: Bombing of Air-India 182.
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All this happened because of POK and Pak-Afg terrorists. Pakistan was definitely behind this. Maoists supported by China aided. Dawood provided the know-how. Media and propaganda made it possible.
rofl :hmm:
 
routan said:
All this happened because of POK and Pak-Afg terrorists. Pakistan was definitely behind this. Maoists supported by China aided. Dawood provided the know-how. Media and propaganda made it possible. rofl
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Wow, talk about epic reading comprehension fail. Apparently, everything you said is false. I know you are being sarcastic you nincompoop.
 
yasasvy said:
This is the reason Pakistan is becoming a failed state. You live in denial.
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Pakistan
The structure of the Pakistani economy has changed from a mainly agricultural base to a strong service base. Agriculture now only accounts for roughly 20% of the GDP, while the service sector accounts for 53% of the GDP.[100] Significant foreign investments have been made in several areas including telecommunications, real estate and energy.[101][102] Other important industries include apparel and textiles (accounting for nearly 60% of exports), food processing, chemicals manufacture, and the iron and steel industries.[103] Pakistan's exports in 2008 amounted to $20.62 billion (USD).[26] Pakistan is a rapidly developing country.[104][105][106]

However, the Economic crisis of 2008 led Pakistan to seek more than $100 billion in aid in order to avoid possible bankruptcy.[107][108] This was never given to Pakistan and it had to depend on a more aggressive fiscal policy, backed by the IMF. A year later, Asian Development Bank reported that the Pakistan economic crisis was easing.[109] Furthermore it is projected that in 2010 Pakistan economy would grow at least 4 percent and could grow more with strong international economic recovery.[110]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan#Economy

India
Despite India's impressive economic growth over recent decades, it still contains the largest concentration of poor people in the world.[135] The percentage of people living below the World Bank's international poverty line of $1.25 a day (PPP, in nominal terms Indian Rupee symbol.svg 21.6 a day in urban areas and Indian Rupee symbol.svg 14.3 in rural areas in 2005) decreased from 60% in 1981 to 42% in 2005.[136] Since 1991, inter-state economic inequality in India has consistently grown; the per capita net state domestic product of India's richest states is about 3.2 times that of the poorest states.[137] Even though India has avoided famines in recent decades, half of children are underweight[138] and about 46% of Indian children under the age of three suffer from malnutrition.[135][139]

A 2007 Goldman Sachs report projected that "from 2007 to 2020, India’s GDP per capita will quadruple," and that the Indian GDP will surpass that of the United States before 2050, but India "will remain a low-income country for several decades, with per capita incomes well below its other BRIC peers."[140] Although the Indian economy has grown steadily over the last two decades; its growth has been uneven when comparing different social groups, economic groups, geographic regions, and rural and urban areas.[135] The World Bank suggests that India must continue to focus on public sector reform, infrastructure, agricultural and rural development, removal of labour regulations, improvement in transport, energy security, and health and nutrition.[141]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India#Economy
 
What's the point of those two wiki links? Because you just linked to an article saying that Pakistan as a whole was on the brink of bankruptcy and economic destruction while the other country (India) is growing quickly but has huge income gaps and disparity between the rich and the poor as hell people.

You just supported the idea that Pakistan is becoming a failed state.
 
RabidMongoose said:
What's the point of those two wiki links? Because you just linked to an article saying that Pakistan as a whole was on the brink of bankruptcy and economic destruction while the other country (India) is growing quickly but has huge income gaps and disparity between the rich and the poor as hell people.

You just supported the idea that Pakistan is becoming a failed state.
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It got you to read it didn't it.
Although you must of missed the last line in the Pakistan one.
I thought you don't pay attention to us Queen whore lovers and caste using peons anyways.
Just ignore me.
 
Orignal Earl said:
Pakistan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan#Economy

India

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India#Economy
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Ahh, economics. I am no economist, but I'll try to break it down for you.

As I already mentioned a few posts above, Pakistan has two developed states: Punjab and Sindh.

Looking at the demographics:

Punjab
Total share of Pakistan's GDP: ~55%

Sindh
Total share of Pakistan's GDP: ~30%

Rest includes North west frontier and Blaochistan

Look at this chart.

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Now as already mentioned above, POK, NWFP and Balochistan are backward regions.

The Pak Govt has virtually no control over NWFP and Baloch. It follows ago old system with tribes, village elders, etc. Since 2001 there is huge inflow of terrorists from Afghan.. and the ISI funds extremists in POK.

Now there is growing influence of Taliban and Al-Queda in those backward areas.

Al-Queda is training people along the border and inciting violence in the relatively peaceful area of Punjab and Sindh. Add to that, there is sectarian violence against Shia's, Ahmadiyya's and Sufi's.

OTOH, Pakistan's ISI is funding Violent Kashmiri Separatist movement(Reference available in wiki leaks documents).
 
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