OMG, More Terrorism In Kashmir

[routan]

This is the reason Pakistan is becoming a failed state. You live in denial.

I am sure terrible leaders, the floods, the past Earthquake, cross-border terrorism, in-house terrorism, war on the West, a hostile neighbor on the right, Indian aided insurrections have nothing to do with it

 

[routan]

Ahh, economics. I am no economist, but I'll try to break it down for you.

As I already mentioned a few posts above, Pakistan has two developed states: Punjab and Sindh.

Looking at the demographics:

Punjab
Total share of Pakistan's GDP: ~55%

Sindh
Total share of Pakistan's GDP: ~30%

Rest includes North west frontier and Blaochistan

Look at this chart.

Now as already mentioned above, POK, NWFP and Balochistan are backward regions.

The Pak Govt has virtually no control over NWFP and Baloch. It follows ago old system with tribes, village elders, etc. Since 2001 there is huge inflow of terrorists from Afghan.. and the ISI funds extremists in POK.

Now there is growing influence of Taliban and Al-Queda in those backward areas.

Al-Queda is training people along the border and inciting violence in the relatively peaceful area of Punjab and Sindh. Add to that, there is sectarian violence against Shia's, Ahmadiyya's and Sufi's.

OTOH, Pakistan's ISI is funding Violent Kashmiri Separatist movement(Reference available in wiki leaks documents).

yasasvy, this is very good example of how someone can take "statistics" and make a complete hackery of realities.

Per you:

Punjab
Total share of Pakistan's GDP: ~55%

Sindh
Total share of Pakistan's GDP: ~30%

Looking at population statistics, the distribution of the people is almost exactly akin to each Province's share in the GDP. Of course one can argue that the people would go where economic prospects are available. One can also argue that water and fertile lands being present in Punjab and Sindh, more people settled in those provinces.

 

[cganesh75]

pok = pakistan occupied Kashmir right? if pakistan had left india alone and kashmir alone, why would there be a POK? and why would there be infiltration into India and why would there be Kargil war and suffocating Indian rules?

that OP you posted says "these are not terrorists, they are just normal people like you and me".. can you go into pakistan or afghanistan or iraq and differentiate between terrorist and normal people? they dont have a special ID saying they are terrorists..

you are talking about suffocating rules and military is causing all these tensions, but you need to look at why those rules are in place and why the military is there.. and continue the rules.. it is all because of the infiltration from pakistan..

 

[routan]

pok = pakistan occupied Kashmir right? if pakistan had left india alone and kashmir alone, why would there be a POK? and why would there be infiltration into India and why would there be Kargil war and suffocating Indian rules?

that OP you posted says "these are not terrorists, they are just normal people like you and me".. can you go into pakistan or afghanistan or iraq and differentiate between terrorist and normal people? they dont have a special ID saying they are terrorists..

you are talking about suffocating rules and military is causing all these tensions, but you need to look at why those rules are in place and why the military is there.. and continue the rules.. it is all because of the infiltration from pakistan..

cganesh75, every post from Indian AT Users attribute fault to some other party.

Lets break down your post: If one cannot go into Pakistan or Afghanistan or Iraq to differentiate between terrorists and normal people, what action would you like Pakistan to do to stop the "infiltration"? The million strong army is not able to stop the influx.

From a different angle, do you suggest that all the 80 people who were killed were terrorists? What about those who disappeared?

Are you also suggesting that every single insurgent movement, Maoists to Nagaland is a direct consequence of Pakistan infiltration? If not, then why is Kashmir exclusively Pakistan's issue, and nothing wrong can possibly be committed by India?

If Pakistan is responsible for all insurgent movements in India, it is extremely hard to imagine that a "failed" state with economy in tatters, a growing terrorism issue can do so well in perpetuating insurgency movements in India. More like laughable.

 

[cganesh75]

explain pakistan occupied kashmir please.. would love to hear you defend that..

lets take kargil war.. why didnt pakistan join forces with India and fight against terrorism? why should pakistan provide military support to POK but come back and say, what happens in POK is nothing to do with pakistan?

 

[cganesh75]

cganesh75, every post from Indian AT Users attribute fault to some other party.

Lets break down your post: If one cannot go into Pakistan or Afghanistan or Iraq to differentiate between terrorists and normal people, what action would you like Pakistan to do to stop the "infiltration"? The million strong army is not able to stop the influx.

From a different angle, do you suggest that all the 80 people who were killed were terrorists? What about those who disappeared?

Are you also suggesting that every single insurgent movement, Maoists to Nagaland is a direct consequence of Pakistan infiltration? If not, then why is Kashmir exclusively Pakistan's issue, and nothing wrong can possibly be committed by India?

If Pakistan is responsible for all insurgent movements in India, it is extremely hard to imagine that a "failed" state with economy in tatters, a growing terrorism issue can do so well in perpetuating insurgency movements in India. More like laughable.

ok. i will blame india for letting this happen. India is defending its borders.. its fighting bad elements in its country just like every other country does..nagaland to maoists or LTTE from srilanka.. they all had nothing to do with pakistan, but its proven that the terror attacks in mumbai, gujrat are all from pakistan..

 

[routan]

explain pakistan occupied kashmir please.. would love to hear you defend that..

lets take kargil war.. why didnt pakistan join forces with India and fight against terrorism? why should pakistan provide military support to POK but come back and say, what happens in POK is nothing to do with pakistan?

cganesh75, before I give you any explanation/respond to your post, why have you not responded to my questions or to my post? This is another example of how Indians cannot accept any blame, and just love saying every one else is responsible for everything that is/can be wrong.

edit: I was writing before your post above was completed. Apologies.

 

[routan]

ok. i will blame india for letting this happen. India is defending its borders.. its fighting bad elements in its country just like every other country does..nagaland to maoists or LTTE from srilanka.. they all had nothing to do with pakistan, but its proven that the terror attacks in mumbai, gujrat are all from pakistan..

cganesh75, okay, so are you saying that Kashmir cannot be entirely Pakistan's fault? That bad elements exist in Kashmir? I am not sure what your post is "blaming"/accepting?

 

[cganesh75]

cganesh75, okay, so are you saying that Kashmir cannot be entirely Pakistan's fault? That bad elements exist in Kashmir? I am not sure what your post is "blaming"/accepting?

all i am saying, is they shouldve just bombed the shit out of pakistan when pakistan first put its foot in kashmir.. there wouldnt be POK if it was not for pakistan..

 

[routan]

all i am saying, is they shouldve just bombed the shit out of pakistan when pakistan first put its foot in kashmir.. there wouldnt be POK if it was not for pakistan..

cganesh75, lol, and that ends this discussion. Its impossible to respond to your stupidity with reason. dont forget to also promote bombing nagaland and the dozens of Naxalite districts

 

[cganesh75]

cganesh75, lol, and that ends this discussion. Its impossible to respond to your stupidity with reason. dont forget to also promote bombing nagaland and the dozens of Naxalite districts

u still havent explained the POK, or the kargil war. you claimed that i didnt respond to your questions..

stupidity? that started from the first post when you posted somebody's opinion as news..

 

[routan]

u still havent explained the POK, or the kargil war. you claimed that i didnt respond to your questions..

stupidity? that started from the first post when you posted somebody's opinion as news..

cganesh75, I have no obligation to reply or explain, and I wont do so to a warmongering, hostile and stupid person like yourself.

As far as opinion being news, that has been addressed much before. But stupid people dont have good readings skills.

Have a nice day.