Olbermann in trouble w/ NBC?

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Deeko

Lifer
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Since when do corporate policies trump our constitutional rights? I heard they were unalienable.

No one is legally stopping him from making those donations. However, if his contract stipulated that he can't do something, and he did it, he's in violation of that contract. He's not going to jail for it, he's being suspended from work.
 

PJABBER

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He didn't work for CNN. And he is a source of falsehoods as much as anyone else, if not more.

I read or heard that he did work for CNN at some point as well. Did a twice a day commentary or something. Don't know if it was sports or politics.
 

thraashman

Lifer
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I read or heard that he did work for CNN at some point as well. Did a twice a day commentary or something. Don't know if it was sports or politics.

He's specifically talking about my post where I accidentally typed CNN twice instead of NBC. It was a CNN article so I had those letters on my brain and I wasn't paying the closest attention so I mixed up my 3 letter initialisms. I edited my post. Guess this is why one should proofread. And maybe not respond to a thread while at work and talking to a co-worker.
 

Jiggz

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It's nothing but a "Dog and Pony" show. He'll be back in no time to harvest viewership!
 

PJABBER

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He's specifically talking about my post where I accidentally typed CNN twice instead of NBC. It was a CNN article so I had those letters on my brain and I wasn't paying the closest attention so I mixed up my 3 letter initialisms. I edited my post. Guess this is why one should proofread. And maybe not respond to a thread while at work and talking to a co-worker.
I am multitasking all the time as I post here and I sometimes think I have to edit 80% of my posts for spelling and grammatical errors on a re-read! I hate seeing those kind of errors in other people's posts, so I do make a point of making corrections in my own as I catch them. In a fast moving thread, it isn't unusual to have someone catch the first iteration in a quote, though, and that sometimes makes for a bit of a lol!
 

IndyColtsFan

Lifer
Sep 22, 2007
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It's nothing but a "Dog and Pony" show. He'll be back in no time to harvest viewership!

If he hurries, he can go pick up some more props for his dramatic television return, though I think he probably already has plenty of this:

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Patranus

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It's nothing but a "Dog and Pony" show. He'll be back in no time to harvest viewership!

No one watches MSNBC now, what makes you think this stunt will bring in new viewers?

My bet is Comcast is looking for a way to kick all of these fools to the curb. This is a perfect out.
 

IBMer

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No one watches MSNBC now, what makes you think this stunt will bring in new viewers?

My bet is Comcast is looking for a way to kick all of these fools to the curb. This is a perfect out.

Great and they can take CNN and Fox with them.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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meh. i don't think he should be fired. but if its in his contract and he didn't fallow it then i can see why they did it.

really i don't get why this is a story. i would understand if he gave to the GOP or Tea Party.
 

Craig234

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LOL at Craig's definition of a political hack like Olbermann somehow being honest! Olbermann is an out and out partisan that inevitably spins a destructive narrative without any attempt at balance. That you agree with his spin does not make him honest or trustworthy or balanced.

You have no clue about the difference between 'honest partisan' and 'dishonest partisan'.

I'm trying to come up with a way to give you some clue about it without hundreds of lines explaining a lot of details about it to you, and one simple way:

There is a difference between:

Olbermann: "Dear liberal audience, today, Republicans voted unanimously to filibuster an extension to unemployment benefits", and:

Olbermann: "Dear liberal audience, today, Republicans voted to make unemployment a federal crime with a jail sentence."

In the first, he's highlighting an accurate story that makes Republicans look bad, likely with some tone of derision about their position.

In the second, he's lying to attack Republicans.

Contrary to your apparently opinion, they're not the same thing.

For you, simply pointing out the truth and preferring one side to another makes him a 'hack'.

Now, in contrast, I can show you several clips of Fox people saying as a fact that Obama's trip to India will cost $200 million per day.

That's lying. There's a difference between Olbermann's pro-liberal telling the truth, and others' lying for their 'side'.

Not that their motives appear the same, either, with Fox being an explicit ideological organization with its views mandated from the top for the owner's benefit, while the advocates on MSNBC arrive at their views a lot more independently and honestly, in my opinion - not that it's completely black and white on either 'side'.

I invite you to post the examples of the 'lies', the more serious things you bundle in with Olbermann merely having a preference of which people and positions he agrees with, which are lacking from your attack posts, that are similar to the $200 million a day example by Fox - pick today's episode that hasn't aired yet as a test, pick this week, pick the last month.

Now, merely showing him saying something that's an opinion you disagree with isn't enough to make the points you claimed. If Fox had said, 'we think the expense of the President's trip to India is not worth the trip', they wouldn't have the same attacks. They might have others - that they're idiots for not understanding the President's job, that they're only making the attack for the sake of attacking Obama rather than having a reasonable point - but it wouldn't be the same as saying they're lying.

Let's face it - you won't be able to come up with the facts for your attacks. You can find the rare error or excess - Olbermann has apologized a few times - but not that many.

The question is whether you can get how wrong your attacks are, bundling his simply agreeing with one side over another, with his having a show that's targeted to people who are liberals in what it covers, not to the point of some dishonest excess, like covering Boehner killing one while not covering Pelosi killing a hundred, without the facts to back it up - or any indication you have any reasonable basis for the attacks.

That you are doing anything more than throwing mud name-calling without, and you are the one who better fits your own attacks.
 

werepossum

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Jul 10, 2006
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You're right, Olbermann is so much worse.
LOL!

If Olbermann gets fired, it will be because he is MSNBC's highest paid "news anchor" and delivers fuckall for the buck. By viewer he's likely the highest paid person in the infotainment business.
 

Throckmorton

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It's still a conflict of interest even though he's a liberal pundit... because he's a LIBERAL pundit not a Democratic pundit.
 

Throckmorton

Lifer
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BTW, why is it considered acceptable for newspapers to endorse candidates? That is far far far worse than an individual employee giving a donation.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
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Given his seeming meaninglessness in the media landscape, it's hard to imagine what inspires all the venom directed at the man.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
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BTW, why is it considered acceptable for newspapers to endorse candidates? That is far far far worse than an individual employee giving a donation.

Companies always make their own rules. It's why people fantasize about being the boss.


"Hit on Debra. Get rejected." Etc.
 

daishi5

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Serious question. What rights can a company require that you give up as a condition of employment?
 

thraashman

Lifer
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I am multitasking all the time as I post here and I sometimes think I have to edit 80% of my posts for spelling and grammatical errors on a re-read! I hate seeing those kind of errors in other people's posts, so I do make a point of making corrections in my own as I catch them. In a fast moving thread, it isn't unusual to have someone catch the first iteration in a quote, though, and that sometimes makes for a bit of a lol!

I don't mind at all someone correcting me when I make a mistake like that. I'd rather be told I'm wrong than be perpetuating false information because of a typo or wrecklessness.