So you condone rogue police work? It's against police SOP. It's that simple.She told him repeatedly to put his hands behind his back. He doesnt, he resists, he fights her then tries to run off. Deserved to get shot IMO.
Originally posted by: Skoorb
So you condone rogue police work? It's against police SOP. It's that simple.She told him repeatedly to put his hands behind his back. He doesnt, he resists, he fights her then tries to run off. Deserved to get shot IMO.
Thank god for the real media alternative. It actually works. I still have RM on here from my AOL escapade and even that crap couldn't run its own video. I hate RM.
Those are all maybes. Fact is she's a bad cop, and the police force shouldn't have people like her. The police force has rules and she doesn't follow them. That makes her a bad cop, and bad cops shouldn't be on the force. For starters her language is atrocious and pathetically unprofessional. She also sounds like a whiney bitch.I condone not fvcking with the person with the badge and gun. He could have EASILY gotten in his truck and fled and caused a accident with burning mangled vehicles and screaming babies trapped inside. And maybe even hit a tranker truck filled with petroleum which would have burst into flame or something.
Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: TechnoKid
There's corruption at its finest
It has nothing at all to do with corruption. You might want to peruse dictionary.com before making such a statement.
Corruption: n 1: lack of integrity or honesty
Integrity: n. Steadfast adherence to a strict moral or ethical code.
Oh I don't know. Putting an incompetent officer on the force, and then covering for her after she kills someone doesn't seem to adhere to either the ethical and moral code I'd expect out of law enforcement officers or any sense of honesty. Nor does covering for her seem particularly honest or ethical. I'd say that word fits.
You might want to take your own advice?
Edit: I'm a few minutes late with this I see. Oh well.
It had nothing to do with corruption. There has to be an outside influence or GAIN for it to be corruption. It's not just the loss of integrity. It has to be due to an outside force that compels someone(via gain) to do an act. How did she gain anything? Part of a definition is not the WHOLE meaning of the word.
*sigh* Couldn't you have just posted this inside that uber double post instead of making me respond to two almost identical posts?
Anyway, you said that part of a definition is not the whole meaning which is true. I notice you didn't bother to post the whole definition though. I'll do that.
n 1: lack of integrity or honesty; esp susceptibility to bribery; use of a position of trust for dishonest gain
Now, you said there HAS to be an outside influence or GAIN. I don't see where it says that here. It says "especially susceptibility to bribery" but it does not seem to say that is a key component. A very likely one of course but, according to the definition, essential
Edit: I also should say that I wasn't saying that she was corrupt but rather whoever pushed her through the program and also whoever is covering up for her and sheltering her from, at very least, the firing she deserves.
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Those are all maybes. Fact is she's a bad cop, and the police force shouldn't have people like her. The police force has rules and she doesn't follow them. That makes her a bad cop, and bad cops shouldn't be on the force. For starters her language is atrocious and pathetically unprofessional. She also sounds like a whiney bitch.I condone not fvcking with the person with the badge and gun. He could have EASILY gotten in his truck and fled and caused a accident with burning mangled vehicles and screaming babies trapped inside. And maybe even hit a tranker truck filled with petroleum which would have burst into flame or something.
She even tells him to watch his mouth when he swears once. The nerve!
You can't shoot somebody because they refuse to put their hands behind their back! She should have tried to either wrestle him at that point, or just taken out her baton and beaten on him a few times for good measure (cause he was a jackass), but you can't shoot somebody because they disobey you. He didn't threaten her in the least, so shooting was unwarranted.
Originally posted by: Amused
Even if you don't include the shooting, that tape is shocking because of her incompetence. She could have put the kid at ease and made the arrest MUCH more smooth than it was. Instead of immediately trying to cuff him after yelling at him for 10 minutes straight, she should have invited him back into her car and put him at ease rather than making him a nervous wreck. I've seen it done before. Plus her overuse of foul language is completely unprofessional and the way she treats him is just asking for him to resist. Hell, If I was treated like that *I* would be a nervous wreck, too.
AFTER her failure to put him at ease, she should have stepped back and called for backup when he started struggling rather than shooting him out of anger.
She has serious anger and stress issues and should have NEVER become a police officer.
You'll see me side with the cops in the vast majority of cases, but not this one. She NEVER should have passed the academy, much less been hired on as an officer.
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Amused
Even if you don't include the shooting, that tape is shocking because of her incompetence. She could have put the kid at ease and made the arrest MUCH more smooth than it was. Instead of immediately trying to cuff him after yelling at him for 10 minutes straight, she should have invited him back into her car and put him at ease rather than making him a nervous wreck. I've seen it done before. Plus her overuse of foul language is completely unprofessional and the way she treats him is just asking for him to resist. Hell, If I was treated like that *I* would be a nervous wreck, too.
AFTER her failure to put him at ease, she should have stepped back and called for backup when he started struggling rather than shooting him out of anger.
She has serious anger and stress issues and should have NEVER become a police officer.
You'll see me side with the cops in the vast majority of cases, but not this one. She NEVER should have passed the academy, much less been hired on as an officer.
makes you wonder. if the state of oklahoma found her fit to hire, what other incompetent minorities they'd be willing to put out there just to meet their quota.
i can see the AA is bad viewpoint, but you can't blame it all on AA, the department that hired her should take some heat also.
Originally posted by: Mill
All you have to do is watch.
All I can say as a CJ student and someone who wants to go into Law Enforcement was that she was 100% wrong. People on the officer.com message boards are outraged that she was not fired for this incident. A few OK state troopers said that was known to be a threat before she completed training, and that they campaigned against her hire. Not only that, but she attempted to quit the academy three times, but the brass begged her to stay because she would be the first Black female officer they had. Not only that, but she failed parts of the academy, and when she passed her FTO during training wanted to fail her. Unfortunately, she leaves a big black eye on anyone who believes in competent police work, and leaves a bigger black eye on her department. She was reassigned to other duties and will NOT be charged with a crime.
Originally posted by: Shockwave
ATOT certainly makes me laugh.
1) You guys wanna electrify anyone who drives drunk.
2) A cop pulls over a drunk driver, then non lethally shoots him to keep him from fleeing into his vehicle and endangering others. You guys wanna electrify her too.
Gee, lets have our cake and eat it to shall we? So, drunk driving is bad, and keeping people from driving drunk by any non lethal means is bad too...
One thing is for sure, I'll NEVER understand ATOT!
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Now thats funny. Truly. Maybe others think its wrong, and I dont wanna get in a big argument, but I think its perfect. Maybe if they play it on TV it'll keep dillweeds from being...Well, dillweeds, and just do twhat the person with the badge and gun says.
In *MY* (And note the MY) opinion, if you dont dot your I's and cross your T's with the "nice" officer they have every right to use deadly force. She told him repeatedly to put his hands behind his back. He doesnt, he resists, he fights her then tries to run off. Deserved to get shot IMO.
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: Skoorb
So you condone rogue police work? It's against police SOP. It's that simple.She told him repeatedly to put his hands behind his back. He doesnt, he resists, he fights her then tries to run off. Deserved to get shot IMO.
Thank god for the real media alternative. It actually works. I still have RM on here from my AOL escapade and even that crap couldn't run its own video. I hate RM.
I condone not fvcking with the person with the badge and gun. He could have EASILY gotten in his truck and fled and caused a accident with burning mangled vehicles and screaming babies trapped inside. And maybe even hit a tranker truck filled with petroleum which would have burst into flame or something.
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Shockwave
ATOT certainly makes me laugh.
1) You guys wanna electrify anyone who drives drunk.
2) A cop pulls over a drunk driver, then non lethally shoots him to keep him from fleeing into his vehicle and endangering others. You guys wanna electrify her too.
Gee, lets have our cake and eat it to shall we? So, drunk driving is bad, and keeping people from driving drunk by any non lethal means is bad too...
One thing is for sure, I'll NEVER understand ATOT!
1) I've never wanted to execute drunk drivers.
2) I've never advocated lethal force by a police officer when their own life or the lives of other is not immediately threatened.
3) Shooting is NOT "non-lethal." She's just as bad a shot as she is a cop, that's all. Shew could have just as easily have killed him.
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Shockwave
ATOT certainly makes me laugh.
1) You guys wanna electrify anyone who drives drunk.
2) A cop pulls over a drunk driver, then non lethally shoots him to keep him from fleeing into his vehicle and endangering others. You guys wanna electrify her too.
Gee, lets have our cake and eat it to shall we? So, drunk driving is bad, and keeping people from driving drunk by any non lethal means is bad too...
One thing is for sure, I'll NEVER understand ATOT!
1) I've never wanted to execute drunk drivers.
2) I've never advocated lethal force by a police officer when their own life or the lives of other is not immediately threatened.
3) Shooting is NOT "non-lethal." She's just as bad a shot as she is a cop, that's all. Shew could have just as easily have killed him.
1) Well, maybe not kill per se, but theres a HUGE hatred of drunk drivers on ATOT.
2) Just because you use a gun doesnt mean its lethal force.
3) You can shoot someone in the ass with little worry of killing them, especially with a 9mm (Standard police issue)
But yes, she IS a bad cop, I wont argue that particular point
You are right. Cops, even good ones, are not trained to give non-lethal shots at a person, because a bullet can always kill somebody even if it's plenty far from any vital organs, thanks to blood loss and surgical complications or infection. On a movie you see people shoot a person in the shoulder to wing them but in real life police are trained to not even try; if they are going to fire, it's shoot to kill. So, essentially she was trying to kill this guy (although that presumes that she was going by standard training, which we see her she wasn't!).Use of a firearm with normal ammunition is ALWAYS considered use of lethal force. No one has good enough aim to control exactly where the bullet enters, and even a shot in the arm or leg can sever an artery and cause death within a minute.
Originally posted by: Skoorb
So you condone rogue police work? It's against police SOP. It's that simple.She told him repeatedly to put his hands behind his back. He doesnt, he resists, he fights her then tries to run off. Deserved to get shot IMO.
Thank god for the real media alternative. It actually works. I still have RM on here from my AOL escapade and even that crap couldn't run its own video. I hate RM.