OKC Mayor Candidate Calls for the Eradication of All Muslims

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

the Word is what has been here since the beginning of time,

Time existed before words.

 

[mikeymikec]

Let's see the response from the state Republican Party.

"Oh no, this is terrible!"
<guy gets enough votes>
"So when can you start?"

 

[Muse]

Time existed before words.

Not sure that's true. Time is an invention of man, so are words. Which came first, I don't know.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I could understand that position as a teenager, in the days after 911.
But where were the elders to lead by example, to teach her a better way than her barbaric savagery?
And today, as a candidate for office? No excuse for the party not to run her out of town.
That Republicans can coalesce around someone who espouses this shit, maybe the second amendment wasn't such a bright idea. Who thinks they're going down without a fight?

The elders either got cancelled or died without teaching anything, so now it's just a bunch of children running around like little idiots, all Lord of the Flies style.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Not sure that's true. Time is an invention of man, so are words. Which came first, I don't know.

Humans discovering/naming a thing != Inventing.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Time is an invention of man

Time existed before humans named it.

 

[kt]

Not sure that's true. Time is an invention of man, so are words. Which came first, I don't know.

Concept of time isn't invented, it's discovered. Just like gravity isn't invented, it exists before being discovered.

 

[pmv]

Concept of time isn't invented, it's discovered. Just like gravity isn't invented, it exists before being discovered.

I can't say I've kept up with physics since university, but I have the impression that the nature of time is still not a settled question. It seems that it's related to the difficulty of reconciling QM and general relativity.

Problem of time - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[kt]

I can't say I've kept up with physics since university, but I have the impression that the nature of time is still not a settled question. It seems that it's related to the difficulty of reconciling QM and general relativity.

Problem of time - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That's interesting. Now, how can I use this to my advantage to explain why I am late to meetings?

 

[hal2kilo]

Not sure that's true. Time is an invention of man, so are words. Which came first, I don't know.

Sounds like you don't think a tree falling in the woods makes any sound without anybody around. On a certain level, you may be right.

 

[Amused]

Not sure that's true. Time is an invention of man, so are words. Which came first, I don't know.

If time is an invention of man that we use clocks to measure, Distance is an invention of man that we use rulers to measure.

 

[hal2kilo]

If time is an invention of man that we use clocks to measure, Distance is an invention of man that we use rulers to measure.

It's one of the dimensions man can have access to.

 

[Moonbeam]

Not sure that's true. Time is an invention of man, so are words. Which came first, I don't know.

Not sure that's true. Time is an invention of man, so are words. Which came first, I don't know.

I would argue that time came before words for these reasons: Time is either infinite backward, infinite forward, of cyclical. The proposition that time exists, the concept of time as an object of thought depends on words, so, while the discussion of time as a property of the universe depends on words, any description of actual properties of the universe would have had to have already been present to be discovered or discussed. So since when the arrow of time is played backward we reach a place so hot that matter couldn't exist, and the laws of physics make no sense, it seems reasonable to me to think that words of the kind we are talking about here could not have existed either. But time itself did.

 

[Moonbeam]

Also, looking at it from another perspective, time being infinite backward, there is no date at which words could have come before it. And if time is cyclical the same would apply. Time would restarted the instant the cycle repeats. In the case of time being infinite forward but having a starting point, again time would emerge the moment space did.
And since the expansion appears to have been from an infinitely small thingi, if there were any words around they would have had to have been very very small.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Time exists without humans.

Words do not.

 

[Pohemi]

Crazy rethuglican espouses theocide, leading to philosophical discussion of the definition of 'time'

lol

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

We had the time for a few words.

 

[skyking]

you rejects could argue over the quality of a fart long after it had dissipated.

 

[Moonbeam]

you rejects could argue over the quality of a fart long after it had dissipated.

Nobody but you is arguing that.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

There was a time when I could fart out a word.

 

[skyking]

^See?^ See what we are working with?

 

[ch33zw1z]

Crazy rethuglican espouses theocide, leading to philosophical discussion of the definition of 'time'

lol

How do humans know time exists with out them? Lol

 

[ch33zw1z]

Wrtop, I'm not surprised by this. I was raised evangelical far from OK but the way christians raising us viewed Muslims it was like the crusades never ended.

 

[zinfamous]

Dang, if it weren't for these low-level, local GOP cells and their slow members reading the GOP manifesto out loud and in public, the wider GOP Christian jihadist movement would have a slightly easier time moving forward with their plans to claim the US and orchestrate their genocide against the educated, the non-white, and the non-christains.

 

[Muse]

Time existed before humans named it.

I don't think so. Human's invented it. Time is an illusion. Humans have created many illusions.