Okay, now is not the time for war with North Korea

[Zorkorist]

South Korea is only like 1 foot from North Korea.

Families have been split, etc.

Their Government stops people from visiting relatives.

There isn't much to discuss.

-John

 

[StageLeft]

no no no,,,

You are obsessed. I must be a GOD to you. You PM every time you need my guidance.

I do because you are the only one here who doesn't spew bullsh*t about Korea. You know the real honest truth and are not tainted by such things as history and news, all of which are written by fallible people. You go with your heart and trust in Dear Leader and nobody else here is brave enough to do that.

 

[Brainonska511]

Update on the ship that sank:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/04/16/south.korea.ship/index.html?hpt=T2

"There is a higher possibility of an external rather than an internal explosion," Yoon Duk-yong, the co-head of a government-appointed team to investigate the March 26 sinking of the corvette Cheonan, said Friday in a televised press conference.

 

[tk149]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100519/ap_on_re_as/as_skorea_ship_sinks

SKorea's top diplomat: 'Obvious' NKorea sank ship

SEOUL, South Korea – North Korea is clearly responsible for the sinking of a South Korean navy ship and there is sufficient evidence to take the issue to the United Nations, South Korea's top diplomat said Wednesday.
Foreign Minister Yu Myung-hwan's comments came a day before the release of a much-anticipated report on the incident and are the first by a South Korean official clearly saying North Korea was behind it.
Speculation has steadily increased that a North Korean torpedo brought down the 1,200-ton Cheonan on March 26 in the Yellow Sea near the two countries' disputed western sea border. A total of 46 sailors from the 104-man crew died.
The government launched a joint military-civilian probe with help from foreign countries including the United States. It has determined that a "strong underwater explosion generated by the detonation of a torpedo" caused the ship to split apart and sink, Yu said in a speech to Seoul-based European business executives.
Asked later by reporters if North Korea sank the Cheonan, Yu replied, "I think it's obvious." He added that "we have enough evidence" to take the sinking to the U.N. Security Council. Yu declined to provide details ahead of the release of the report.
Impoverished yet nuclear-armed North Korea has denied involvement in the sinking, one of South Korea's worst naval disasters. Vice parliamentary speaker Yang Hyong Sop criticized Seoul earlier this week for "unreasonably" linking his country to the incident, according to the North's state radio station.
The report's release is likely to further increase tensions on the divided Korean peninsula, where the 1950-53 Korean War ended in a truce, rather than a peace treaty. The land border is the world's most heavily armed and the western sea border has been the site of several deadly naval clashes since 1999.
Any reaction from North Korea, however, may take days or even weeks to emerge. The country usually speaks to the world through its state media.
South Korean media have reported that President Lee Myung-bak plans to give a speech on the sinking in a few days. U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton is due in Seoul next week for talks during an Asian tour. And North Korea announced Tuesday that it plans to convene a rare second session of its rubber-stamp parliament in early June.
Lee has vowed stern action against those responsible for the disaster. He has discussed the matter by phone this week with President Barack Obama and Japanese Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama.
Yu, the foreign minister, called Wednesday for "firm" action and pushed for support from the international community during his speech. He did not give specifics.
Options could include a request to the U.N. Security Council for tougher sanctions against the North, or for Washington to put North Korea back on its terrorism blacklist.
Investigators have collected evidence pointing to North Korea's involvement, South Korean media said.
Fragments of a torpedo propeller found near the disaster site are similar to parts from a North Korean torpedo that South Korea obtained seven years ago, the Chosun Ilbo newspaper reported Wednesday, citing unidentified government officials.
A serial number on the torpedo propeller was written in a font typically used in North Korea, and traces of explosives found in the wreckage resemble those used in the North Korean torpedo retrieved in 2003, it said.
South Korea's Defense Ministry said it could not confirm the reports.
In Washington, Assistant Secretary of State for East Asia Kurt Campbell said Wednesday he couldn't talk about the report's conclusions until it is released. "The United States has been deeply and actively involved in all aspects of the investigation, and the United States strongly supports its conclusions," Campbell said.

He said a major reason for Clinton's visit to Asia is to allow close consultations with her counterparts in South Korea, China and Japan about the sinking and to work on appropriate responses. In particular, he said, Clinton will be interested to learn from senior Chinese officials their assessments of developments in North Korea and their reaction to the report on the Cheonan. "We are concerned by a number of steps that North Korea has taken that we consider to be provocative," Campbell said.

 

[bfdd]

1+ million impotent military that ranks top 10 in the world with a back of China and Russia. Korea isn't Iraq where you can just barge in and steal oil and rape Iraqi women. NK regime isn't going anywhere long as China and SK is still standing. US in other hand...... Your hopes in East Asia colonies are being deprived slowly but surely. It's only a matter of time western apes tuck their tail between the legs and cluck back to the US of mutts.

Lol you're a moron.

 

[piasabird]

We probably have tactical nukes in South Korea right now. Never underestimate the ability of the USA Military. This does not even include subs with nukes. Maybe North Korea could inflict some damage, and maybe North Korea would be too scared to try. I dont think we would Use Nukes. The korean Peninsula is a very small land mass and it is over-populated. Besides there being nowhere to go, we have thousands of USA troops in harm's way. We have an air base in the South "Osan Air Base", and we probably would carpet bomb Korth Korea immediately from Korea and Japan. All around it would be a bloody war. Besides we have our own brigades of artillery and tanks and jets and apache attack helicopters.

I was looking at some photos of places I served in South Korea and the amount of new high-rise apartments is amazing. The small little sleepy mountain towns have muchroomed into thriving metroplolitan cities.

 

[werepossum]

We probably have tactical nukes in South Korea right now. Never underestimate the ability of the USA Military. This does not even include subs with nukes. Maybe North Korea could inflict some damage, and maybe North Korea would be too scared to try. I dont think we would Use Nukes. The korean Peninsula is a very small land mass and it is over-populated. Besides there being nowhere to go, we have thousands of USA troops in harm's way. We have an air base in the South "Osan Air Base", and we probably would carpet bomb Korth Korea immediately from Korea and Japan. All around it would be a bloody war. Besides we have our own brigades of artillery and tanks and jets and apache attack helicopters.

I was looking at some photos of places I served in South Korea and the amount of new high-rise apartments is amazing. The small little sleepy mountain towns have muchroomed into thriving metroplolitan cities.

South Korea is a true success story and shows the power of capitalism coupled with smart people and hard work.

 

[AzN]

South Korea is a true success story and shows the power of capitalism coupled with smart people and hard work.

At what cost? When you lose your freedom there is no amounts of money in the world that can replace it.

 

[JS80]

At what cost? When you lose your freedom there is no amounts of money in the world that can replace it.

Great, you're back.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

At what cost? When you lose your freedom there is no amounts of money in the world that can replace it.

What freedom have they lost?

P.S. Go here too! http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2074354

 

[FallenHero]

If China doesn't want a war near it's boarder, there won't be one. NK isn't dumb enough to piss off the Chinese and the US at the same time. China has an interest in keeping NK in check.

 

[Zorkorist]

Nortk Korea is flat looney, and China does have an interest in squashing them, as China is not looney.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

At what cost? When you lose your freedom there is no amounts of money in the world that can replace it.

Capitalism is freedom, AZN. Anything less, is charity.

-John

 

[Patranus]

Its ok, Obama will just spew some more hot air and do nothing as usual.

 

[Zorkorist]

He might enact Health Care Reform.

-John

 

[spacejamz]

At what cost? When you lose your freedom there is no amounts of money in the world that can replace it.

Exactly... just ask the citizens of North Korea....

 

[AzN]

Capitalism is freedom, AZN. Anything less, is charity.

-John

nonono

Capitalism is extension of slavery.

 

[AzN]

Exactly... just ask the citizens of North Korea....

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. NK citizens support their country as much as you American pigs do with your stolen land of opportunity. :hmm:

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Its ok, Obama will just spew some more hot air and do nothing as usual.

Gee, since you are such the all-knowing anonymous internet chickenhawk, just what would you do (other then thread-crap while taking pot-shots at Obama)?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. NK citizens support their country as much as you American pigs do with your stolen land of opportunity. :hmm:

Sure they do, because Dear Leader points guns at them or threatens them with starvation in a gulag if they don't.

Ironic that you talk about "loss" of freedom in a capitalist society, when in fact, you're South Korean and the freedoms afforded to you enable you to 1) travel outside of the country and to the US 2) post your ill-informed drivel on a site seen all over the world. Let's see North Korean citizens do either of those two things.

It is comedy gold that you hate the US so much and yet, you don't mind being here and enjoying what the country has to offer. Hypocrite.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Opps! was that our torpedo in the belly of your ship I knew we lost one around here somewhere. So solly, you no make sanctions, we make war OK

 

[tk149]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100520/ap_on_re_as/as_skorea_ship_sinks

NKorea warns of war if punished for ship sinking
North Korea said Thursday that South Korea fabricated evidence implicating the North in a torpedo attack in order to pick on the North and any attempt at retaliating for the warship's sinking would be answered with "all-out war."
South Korean President Lee Myung-bak vowed "stern action" for the attack after a multinational investigation issued its long-awaited results Thursday, concluding the North fired a torpedo that sank the Cheonan navy ship March 26 near the Koreas' tense sea border.

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[tk149]

You really have to wonder about ol' Kim. Does he wake up some mornings and think to himself, "I'm gonna fvck somebody up today. Just for the helluva it."

 

[K1052]

China is going to have to throw NK under the bus one of these days in order to take it's relations/influence with the rest of Asia to the next level and they keep providing opportunities.

 

[CrackRabbit]

China is going to have to throw NK under the bus one of these days in order to take it's relations/influence with the rest of Asia to the next level and they keep providing opportunities.

That day may be rapidly approaching. :|
When it arrives it will take years for the Korean peninsula to recover.