Okay, now is not the time for war with North Korea

[AzN]

Why does the US want a war with NK? USA would have nothing to gain accept a couple hundred thousand KIAs.

NK continues to threaten conflict because it NEEDS aid. The only way to get aid is to use nuclear weapons as leverage.

It is not fear mongering to view this situation as a powder keg. Sooner or later war will erupt. It cannot last like this. Not indefinitely.

NK isn't suicidal yet, but if it enters a stage of failed state, it might lash out at South Korea.

Who knows. Could be tomorrow. could be 50 years. But it will happen unless North Korea is destroyed from within.

Why did US invade Korea in 1950? For the same reason why US wants a war with NK at present which is direct land access to China and Russia.

It's hilarious US calls 6 way talk to work things out with NK. Japan, SK, NK, China, Russia, and US terrorists.

I mean I can understand China, Russia, and SK but why the hell is Japan involved? Japan is nothing more than a vessel state of the US that doesn't even border Korea.

War? Not going to happen in our life time. If it does happen a power shift could happen. US sure doesn't want a war where a country that could hit them back. Of course not... US likes fighting with make believe terrorists or 3rd world countries that has no way of winning other than fight for their lives.

 

[Brainonska511]

I mean I can understand China, Russia, and SK but why the hell is Japan involved? Japan is nothing more than a vessel state of the US that doesn't even border Korea.

Because missiles can't travel over water. If only they could, then maybe Japan's opinions in that region would be relevant. Maybe some day, someone will bless us with missiles that can perform such amazing feats.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Aren't we still technically/on the government books at war with Korea?

 

[Kirby]

Why did US invade Korea in 1950? For the same reason why US wants a war with NK at present which is direct land access to China and Russia.

It's hilarious US calls 6 way talk to work things out with NK. Japan, SK, NK, China, Russia, and US terrorists.

I mean I can understand China, Russia, and SK but why the hell is Japan involved? Japan is nothing more than a vessel state of the US that doesn't even border Korea.

War? Not going to happen in our life time. If it does happen a power shift could happen. US sure doesn't want a war where a country that could hit them back. Of course not... US likes fighting with make believe terrorists or 3rd world countries that has no way of winning other than fight for their lives.

LOL, you really are a Pyongyang Pussy. We invaded for direct land access? Get the fuck out of here. Why don't you defect to NK? I'm sure your Glorious Leader would love another bitch in his work camps.

 

[Soltis]

LOL, you really are a Pyongyang Pussy. We invaded for direct land access? Get the fuck out of here. Why don't you defect to NK? I'm sure your Glorious Leader would love another bitch in his work camps.

Problem is he would need a backbone to do more than just type-trash.

 

[cyclohexane]

I have a "feeling" that China hates NK and sees it as big PIA. Maybe someday China kick NK's butt. Don't you wonder how China feel to have wannabe nuclear power in it's own backyard?

Confucius say: " If a man takes no thought about what is distant, he will find sorrow near at hand."

But China doesn't want to piss off NK either. The best way is for everyone to just ignore them.

 

[ebaycj]

North Korea produces nothing and nobody likes them. There is no reason anyone would want to occupy North Korea. Just smash their shit and call it a day.

Only real benefit would be allowing South Korea to expand, they are certainly space constrained as it is.

 

[AzN]

Because missiles can't travel over water. If only they could, then maybe Japan's opinions in that region would be relevant. Maybe some day, someone will bless us with missiles that can perform such amazing feats.

With your half witted logic anyone with ICBM needs to be involved in NK bilateral talk.

 

[EagleKeeper]

One does not need an ICBM to get between NK to Japan.

Please understand what the initials ICBM stand for

Inter Continental Ballistic Missile.

These are much different than a theatre tacticle missle. They travel further, take longer to setup a/ launch and carry a larger payload.
NK has demonstrated that they can not build such a missle that is reliable.

 

[Noobtastic]

One does not need an ICBM to get between NK to Japan.

Please understand what the initials ICBM stand for

Inter Continental Ballistic Missile.

These are much different than a theatre tacticle missle. They travel further, take longer to setup a/ launch and carry a larger payload.
NK has demonstrated that they can not build such a missle that is reliable.

Exactly. At this point there is no evidence to support the fact that North Korea will attack South Korea or provoke a war. Right now the state only has one or two nuclear weapons. However, if North Korea manages to develop 5 or 6...then it is in a position to use the weapons offensively.

 

[AzN]

One does not need an ICBM to get between NK to Japan.

Please understand what the initials ICBM stand for

Inter Continental Ballistic Missile.

These are much different than a theatre tacticle missle. They travel further, take longer to setup a/ launch and carry a larger payload.
NK has demonstrated that they can not build such a missle that is reliable.

Please read the original quotes. I wasn't even talking about NK being capable of building ICBM.

 

[dawp]

Why did US invade Korea in 1950? For the same reason why US wants a war with NK at present which is direct land access to China and Russia.

It's hilarious US calls 6 way talk to work things out with NK. Japan, SK, NK, China, Russia, and US terrorists.

I mean I can understand China, Russia, and SK but why the hell is Japan involved? Japan is nothing more than a vessel state of the US that doesn't even border Korea.

War? Not going to happen in our life time. If it does happen a power shift could happen. US sure doesn't want a war where a country that could hit them back. Of course not... US likes fighting with make believe terrorists or 3rd world countries that has no way of winning other than fight for their lives.

It was the North Koreans that invaded, not the other way around. and only because China came to the aid of NK is the only reason Korea isn't united today.

You might want to make sure you get your facts straight before posting.

 

[EagleKeeper]

It was the North Koreans that invaded, not the other way around. and only because China came to the aid of NK is the only reason Korea isn't united today.

You might want to make sure you get your facts straight before posting.

People that are biased do not want to use facts - only what information they are brainwashed with.

And NK published facts might differ from the rest of the world. Can not realize that. The rest of the world listens to propoganda; NK only delivers facts:hmm:

 

[EagleKeeper]

Please read the original quotes. I wasn't even talking about NK being capable of building ICBM.

I mean I can understand China, Russia, and SK but why the hell is Japan involved? Japan is nothing more than a vessel state of the US that doesn't even border Korea.Because missiles can't travel over water. If only they could, then maybe Japan's opinions in that region would be relevant. Maybe some day, someone will bless us with missiles that can perform such amazing feats.

With your half witted logic anyone with ICBM needs to be involved in NK bilateral talk.

You indicated why would one want to involve Japan in talks.

My comment is that you may not understand the difference between and ICBM and a tactical missile.

Japan is at risk from NK for any type of missile launch.

And missiles can travel over water, just like an airplane.

In reverse, why is Russia needed to be involved. They have no troops or border with NK

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You may wish to review what you post (use the preview button) so what you intend to state is not twisted and lead to either you creating a false impression of your opinions or showing that you have no knowledge of what you are posting about. Ex: Missiles can not travel over water

People will detect the errors in your posts which serve to weaken your arguments.

And possibly answering legit questions might improve your standing in terms of your qualifications vs regurgitating what you have heard.

EagleKeeper and others have posed questions to you requesting details on your qualifications to state your positions with such extreme views.

Everytime you duck/ignore them.

Therefore the consequence is that people are willing to challenge every assumption and/or place you on the defensive.

 

[Cattykit]

Why did US invade Korea in 1950? For the same reason why US wants a war with NK at present which is direct land access to China and Russia.

It's hilarious US calls 6 way talk to work things out with NK. Japan, SK, NK, China, Russia, and US terrorists.

I mean I can understand China, Russia, and SK but why the hell is Japan involved? Japan is nothing more than a vessel state of the US that doesn't even border Korea.

War? Not going to happen in our life time. If it does happen a power shift could happen. US sure doesn't want a war where a country that could hit them back. Of course not... US likes fighting with make believe terrorists or 3rd world countries that has no way of winning other than fight for their lives.

NK invaded SK. That's a well known fact. Those who heartly argued otherwise even kept themselves quite since the release of U.S.S.R documents.

Why is Japan involved? NK has been firing missles over Japan for a while. Shouldn't they be worried? If I starting shooting bullets over your house, wouldn't you be worried?

 

[AzN]

You indicated why would one want to involve Japan in talks.

My comment is that you may not understand the difference between and ICBM and a tactical missile.

Japan is at risk from NK for any type of missile launch.

And missiles can travel over water, just like an airplane.

In reverse, why is Russia needed to be involved. They have no troops or border with NK

I still don't get your point is. ICBM can still hit any country. So anyone who has ICMB should be involved in NK talks. No? Japan has nothing to do with Korea. Please leave your lap dogs at home in NK bilateral talks. Japanese is part of the Korean problem not the solution.

FYI NK borders Russia.

 

[AzN]

NK invaded SK. That's a well known fact. Those who heartly argued otherwise even kept themselves quite since the release of U.S.S.R documents.

Why is Japan involved? NK has been firing missles over Japan for a while. Shouldn't they be worried? If I starting shooting bullets over your house, wouldn't you be worried?

Pfff.. Perhaps in your history books. NK was freeing our own people from invaders. That would be US. GO HOME!

 

[EagleKeeper]

You indicated why would one want to involve Japan in talks.

My comment is that you may not understand the difference between and ICBM and a tactical missile.

Japan is at risk from NK for any type of missile launch.

And missiles can travel over water, just like an airplane.

In reverse, why is Russia needed to be involved. They have no troops or border with NK

I still don't get your point is. ICBM can still hit any country. So anyone who has ICMB should be involved in NK talks. No? Japan has nothing to do with Korea. Please leave your lap dogs at home in NK bilateral talks. Japanese is part of the Korean problem not the solution.

FYI NK borders Russia.

Russia does have a 50km border with NK. mea culpa

The point on Japan is that NK has missiles that will reach Japan. With NK threatening to shoot missiles over Japanese airspace; Japan has a serious concern in keeping tensions low.

Russia and China have worries on the economic side. Neither would like a influx of people from North Korea over their borders. The havoc that it would reap on the local area would be enormous.

w/ the exception of South Korea; Japan is the nearest non-communist country to NK and could be involved if tensions flare up.

With missile technology, a country can be attacked that has no involvement in the conflict - just because of ideological differences or old hatreds. There are still people in the Koreas that directly remember what Japan did in WWII and at least a generation that have heard those first hand stories

 

[Cattykit]

Pfff.. Perhaps in your history books. NK was freeing our own people from invaders. That would be US. GO HOME!

Are you North Korean? I'm asking because only NK textbook would claim it was SK that started the war.

Go read Sovet Archives, then you'll understand how Kim Il-Sung wanted to start a war but Stalin refused only to change his mind later on.

 

[Brainonska511]

Are you North Korean? I'm asking because only NK textbook would claim it was SK that started the war.

Go read Sovet Archives, then you'll understand how Kim Il-Sung wanted to start a war but Stalin refused only to change his mind later on.

SHHHH!!

Stop trying to inject those silly facts and reasons. They're just Western propaganda against the glorious nation of NK, which will trample the souls of the infidels that continue to victimize the blameless leadership of NK.

 

[Zorkorist]

Russia and China have worries on the economic side. Neither would like a influx of people from North Korea over their borders. The havoc that it would reap on the local area would be enormous.

As we all know, people are the economy. Do China and Russia expect a bunch of zombies to flee to their country? No.

The problem is not the people of North Korea, it is the leadership of North Korea, which countries like China, Russia, should be handling.

China and Russia are beginning to value people, and their individual contributions to society.

That one individual represses millions of people, through fear, torture, mind erasing, and conditioning, will ring a bell.., abd they will eliminate that person.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

Are you North Korean? I'm asking because only NK textbook would claim it was SK that started the war.

Go read Sovet Archives, then you'll understand how Kim Il-Sung wanted to start a war but Stalin refused only to change his mind later on.

This war that NK started...

It's after the Korean Peninsula was divided into two?

Or before? Couldn't have been before, because they were then one state.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

We lost the Korean War. And now there is North and South Korea.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

[Reagan]President of North Korea, Tear down your walls![/Reagan]

-John

 

[Jhhnn]

Near as I can tell, S Koreans' attitude is that the only time to engage their northern cousins militarily is if the Northerners jump up out of their holes and charge across the DMZ. At which point the northerners would likely be annihilated, given the superior technology, resources, allies, and defense preparation of the South. I'm confident that the Northerners realize this, as well.

Given that our being there is theoretically to serve the interests of S Korea, an actual ally, the smart and sensible move on our part is to follow their lead, something the Bush Admin really didn't comprehend. GWB's reception in Seoul was just one step shy of hostile, due largely to US saber rattling at the time.

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