OK...why does everyone have to bash the French?

DainBramaged

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Certain threads in OT have been started about the rioting in France and the concensus seems to be that they are getting what they deserve. Seriously, WTF? Nobody deserves to have mass rioting. Why must people bash the French? Which country had a four-minute shutdown of the ENTIRE nation in memory of those lost in 9/11? France. They shut down everything out of respect and sympathy and all they ever get back is hate. I wish people would grow the fvck up.
 

Titan

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It's just the way people post around here. I notice it too, it seems over-reactionary. Anytime a link about some criminal or even scammer comes up, we see all the posts about how they "deserve" this, and "should be" that. Everyone is quick to judge and sentence, not really based on our laws ironically enough, but based on emotion.

Hopefully they aren't all serious about what they say. But scarily, many of them sound so certain.
 

Legend

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While I disagree with their socialism, I also see no point in bashing them.
 

Todd33

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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
No more annoying than the blame America tirades we see here everyday.

You see no evil, hear no evil, say evil types are missing a big point.

Those who criticise the US are for the most part US citizens. We discuss problems, because discussion leads to enlightenment and maybe solutions. I know you only want to discuss America's problems when a Clinton is in office, but the rest of us like to discuss them all the time.

I don't waste a brain cell on French problems, I don't live there. Unlike your type, you love to attack other countries and the UN in attempt to deflect focus from your own countries problems. Case in point "Oil for Food" is brought up on the right every time Iraq is.
 

Ronstang

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I NEVER said the deserved what is happening to them. I said that the situation is a direct result of their shortsighted liberal socialism and is compounded by their lack of willingness to deal with the situation accordingly. They are ineffectual wimps so I can see why some may say they deserve what they are getting, but I NEVER said that. I hate the French for many many reasons but I still would not wish the riots upon them.
 

DainBramaged

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
I NEVER said the deserved what is happening to them. I said that the situation is a direct result of their shortsighted liberal socialism and is compounded by their lack of willingness to deal with the situation accordingly. They are ineffectual wimps so I can see why some may say they deserve what they are getting, but I NEVER said that. I hate the French for many many reasons but I still would not wish the riots upon them.

See, I agree with that. I believe that their system of government is fundamentally flawed but I still would never wish harm upon people just because of that. I don't get why people wish harm on others just because they don't agree with our politics.
 

ShadesOfGrey

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Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
No more annoying than the blame America tirades we see here everyday.

You see no evil, hear no evil, say evil types are missing a big point.

Those who criticise the US are for the most part US citizens. We discuss problems, because discussion leads to enlightenment and maybe solutions. I know you only want to discuss America's problems when a Clinton is in office, but the rest of us like to discuss them all the time.

I don't waste a brain cell on French problems, I don't live there. Unlike your type, you love to attack other countries and the UN in attempt to deflect focus from your own countries problems. Case in point "Oil for Food" is brought up on the right every time Iraq is.

Please point to where I bashed France?
My comments were on the OP suggesting the negativity towards France is annoying. I would agree, just as the blame America tirades are.

Oil for food affects everyone since it is a UN problem. The scandal that it is demands that we make changes to that institution since it doesn't seem to want to hold itself accountable and there is no system in place to hold it accountable - unlike the American system.
 

dahunan

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US Congress opts for "freedom fries"


French fries are off the menu for US legislators
French fries in the House of Representatives' cafeterias will now be known as "freedom fries" as part of a Republican protest at France's opposition to a war on Iraq.
Republican representative Bob Ney, whose committee is in charge of the eateries, said the action was "a small but symbolic effort to show the strong displeasure of many on Capitol Hill with the actions of our so-called ally, France".

French toast from now on will be known as "freedom toast".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2842493.stm

Now the guy responsible for starting the ban on french toast and french fries is against the war in Iraq - go figure

Our Politicians are those spoiled rich kids who were never disciplined and were always told they were better than everyone else.
 

ntdz

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We're just getting back at them for all the bashing they do of us :)
 

sandorski

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After 9/11 you couldn't even suggest that it was caused by something for many months. You'd get flamed hard by everyone, Left/Right. There are literally people taking the French situation as a big joke on these boards(especially in OT). There's something wrong here, don't you think?
 

bdude

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Originally posted by: ntdz
We're just getting back at them for all the bashing they do of us :)

They? Who the heck is they? Chirac? The French people?
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: bdude
Originally posted by: ntdz
We're just getting back at them for all the bashing they do of us :)

They? Who the heck is they? Chirac? The French people?

The French have the Gaul to think they are superior to us and we have the self hate to believe it. The French male is every woman's dream, sensitive and refined, and that makes pig farmers upset. They are convinced that women worship muscle of the brain.

 

maddogchen

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Uh.....thats just how it is in offtopic. Someone posted "I'm sad", the first response was "go off yourself"
 

Martin

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Emmanuel Goldstein. Stupid, petty, spiteful people need a fictional figure into which they funnel all their hate. Ever since the riots started, the a large part of the right here has resembled those rallies in 1984, complete with the ridiculously contradictory rationalizations of their hate. Its nothing new, they did the same thing back in 02/03, when the 'French' hate-figure was constructed so that they could focus on one country, instead of acknowledging the entire world was against them.

You can see this in this thread as well. They like to think its because of "the failure of liberal socialism", while being ignorant of the fact that France lacks any form of AA and most forms of PC, two of the most hated aspects of "liberal socialism" in the US and that these riots are largely because of they don't have these things.

And what of The Plan? Of course, there is nothing in the world France can actually do which they could approve of. If they try to police the riots, they're being wimps, if they start killing or deporting people, the same lot of 'tards will be screaming "racist genociders!!!"

It would be very amusing watching how these people think, if it weren't so sad...
 

Martin

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
No more annoying than the blame America tirades we see here everyday.

QFT.

So, because some americans say things about their own country that you disagree with, you have to bash the French to get back at them? :roll:

see my above post for "ridiculously contradictory rationalizations"...
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Martin
Wow. Yes. Totally. I too am sick of that huge, gigantic horde of French poeple we have on this board, bashing America every single day...

Well apparently they haven't gotten their Passports just yet. We've got a whole group of people who hate America so much I'm willing to bet they'd love it in France. :p
 

Martin

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Martin
Wow. Yes. Totally. I too am sick of that huge, gigantic horde of French poeple we have on this board, bashing America every single day...

Well apparently they haven't gotten their Passports just yet. We've got a whole group of people who hate America so much I'm willing to bet they'd love it in France. :p

Ahh, the good old "love it or leave it". Could we please get a few more clichés? How about "We built this contry" and "We saved their asses!". Don't worry, they don't have to relate to the topic in any logical way, just throw them out...
 

ahurtt

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It is a well-known and documented scientific fact that among the most difficult of innate human urges to overcome is the natural tendency, when witnessing somebody who has egg on their face, to blurt out the phrase, "I told you so." Almost every person who ever was, is, or will be on the face of this planet will cave in to this basic biological urge at some point in their lives. Some can resist more than others but everybody breaks eventually. So to answer the question, "why all the French bashing?" It's just human nature.
 

UglyCasanova

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Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
No more annoying than the blame America tirades we see here everyday.

QFT.

So, because some americans say things about their own country that you disagree with, you have to bash the French to get back at them? :roll:

see my above post for "ridiculously contradictory rationalizations"...

The French bashing is more of a joke than anything, and yes I tire of it as well. I'm not offended by it, just as I am not offended by the jokes about Canada and their tank, but the jokes and subject is just so worn out that I find them annoying and childish now more than anything.

Not sure if we have any French posters here or not, but I know there are several posters from various countries that frequent P&N who are pretty vocal about their dislike of America. There are rednecks and plenty of HS or younger kids who post on here who really actually do have a hate for the French, but those are the posts that I just skip over. Not even worth reading.

I have noticed that whenever someone mentions anything bad about the French someone has to chime in with a post condemning them for their French bashing. About as reliable as Old Faithful erupting on time or 15 chubby pimple faced 17 year old virgins going REPOST! in ATOT. It's as if it were gay bashing, or racists jokes, or something like that. But look through any thread in P&N and you can find someone criticizing America. And usually someone is bashing the liberals for being this and that, but moreover I see constant bashing (I hate that word) of Republicans and especially Christians. I am neither so don't think I am taking offense to it, but I've read post after post after post of Christians being described as lunatics and the Republicans as rednecks.

Does any of this matter? No, the majority of us are thick skinned enough to take the bashing if it is directed toward us and smart enough to realize that some of it is jokes (especially in OT, here in P&N I see a lot more of the puberty driven hatred of either France or America). And although to me the OP just comes off as whining over an extremely trivial matter, he is right that it is getting old though. I just wish everyone would realize how immature and annoying they appear when they post things "bashing" someone, be it the French, the RRR as dave calls it, the Propogandists, whoever. The majority of the time these people have nothing else to offer to the discussion so this is their chance to be the top dog.
 

kogase

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Some people (and by some people I mean ShadesOfGrey and Pabster) cannot admit a fault of their own "side" without mentioning a fault of the other "side". It's never "Yeah, that's pretty stupid". It's always "Yeah, but the other side is bad too". It's pathetic to watch.
 

jpeyton

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Pabster & The Freedom Fry Blowhards exude the "with us or against us" mentality that is poisoning the easily terrorized minds of middle America.