Ok, I'v had enough of Israel!!!

[burnedout]

Now, what would be point of carrying bombs to the wounded. They are trying to save lifes, not take them away

Let's pretend there has been an armed altercation between two parties. Party A sends an ambulance to pick up the dead and injured. Problem is the ambulance must be searched by party B because party B cannot trust party A. So why can't party B trust party A? Because party A has demonstrated in previous incidents that it uses these particular "humanitarian" vehicles in the transport of weapons. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You mean to tell me you trust party A with their carbombs, human bombs and other nutcases screaming intifada? Sure, we'll trust them

<edit>edited for clarity</edit>

 

[Grommet5]

Facts, bah everything you said is probably based on assumption. i bet you have actually had a look into once those ambulances while your served in the IDF. thats why you can be certain every ambulance trasnports militants.

 

[ThePresence]

<< Just for reference the International Red Cross has filed an offical complaint with the U.N. saying Israel is commiting War Crimes principly Crimes Against Humanity for attacking ambulances. >>



Yay.

 

[ThePresence]

<< Facts, bah everything you said is probably based on assumption. i bet you have actually had a look into once those ambulances while your served in the IDF. thats why you can be certain every ambulance trasnports militants. >>



NO, indeed you cannot be certain that every ambulance transports militants. But I dont wanna be the one taking the chance of opening the door to the ambulance. OK, i hope to be back on later today.

 

[etech]

Grommet5

It only takes terrorists one time on violating the sanctity of ambulances by using them to transport more terrorists or arms to make them all suspect.

 

[BoltCase]

burnedout, any evidence for that?

C'mon, did you read the article

IDF: Those ambulances carry terrorists and we have two videos to prove it.
CBS: Can you show us the video?
IDF: errrr... they're poor quality... and we lost them.. sorry, you just have to believe us because we are Israelis.

AND

Don't forget that a UN vheicle was shot and a UN nurse killed. Are those terrorist too?

Just because the IDF wear cute suits and use OUR FREE F-16s to kills civilains doesn't make those terrorists right.

 

[Passner]

What has been lost in this whole thread is that the Palestinians did almost the same exact thing. Shooting a guy and then not allowing an ambulence to come, forcing the man to bleed to death after 5 hours.


Israel did not go in, because they did not want it to seem like they were escalating the violence.


You people attack Israel for every little action, and look the other way when your beloved Palestinians do the same, or worse (much more often worse.)


I did not want to bring this word into play, but it is so obvious from everything you have written in this thread and others. Grommet5, you are a blatant anti-Semite or anti-Israel person. And Anti-Semite only applies to Jews according to the dictionary, so do not give the old "Arabs are Semites" argument.


Grommet5, you are just like ZAQ3211, if anyone remembers him. Your views should be totally disregarded.

 

[BoltCase]

<<
Grommet5

It only takes terrorists one time on violating the sanctity of ambulances by using them to transport more terrorists or arms to make them all suspect.
>>



It takes only one American black to commit a crime to make all blacks suspect.... or wait, now that bad and racist.. opppps.

and that probably justifies shooting at ambulances and killing a UN Nurse and two medics? Let's just shoot at all ambulances because they MIGHT carry terrorists. Wohoo, I love your logic.

This is ALL violation of Hauge and Geneva convections, but who cares I guess about International Law?

 

[Grommet5]

Passner, IF i'm an anti-semite because i don't support israel, than you must be an anti-arab for not supporting the palestinians.

 

[Passner]

Grommie Boy, there is a big difference between "not supporting Israel" and some of the things you have said in this thread.

 

[etech]

BoltCase

Find a link to the shooting of the nurse. Was there a firefight occurring at the time? Were the terrorist hiding behind the ambulance and the people trying to help the wounded?

War sucks, innocent people will get killed. The question is whether the Palestinians are at war with Israel are not. If they are at war then they cannot complain about the actions of the Israelis, if they are not at war then they should be stopping their people from committing the acts that require retalition by the Israelis.

 

[burnedout]

burnedout, any evidence for that?

Have any evidence to the contrary?

Don't forget that a UN vheicle was shot and a UN nurse killed. Are those terrorist too?

Where were they from?

Just because the IDF wear cute suits and use OUR FREE F-16s to kills civilains doesn't make those terrorists right.

Just because some nutcase screaming intifada, blows himself and others to smithereens using <IRANIAN, IRAQI, INSERT HOSTILE ANTI-ISRAELI COUNTRY NAME HERE> in a cafe or kills school kids doesn't make IDF wrong.

 

[ThePresence]

<< Passner, IF i'm an anti-semite because i don't support israel, than you must be an anti-arab for not supporting the palestinians. >>



No, not because you dont support Israel, but because you HATE israel, as evidenced in your "Zionist filth" comment earlier. And, BoltCase - Yes i am a racist. I have no problem being a racist against a certain kind of vehicle.

 

[Grommet5]

<<Palestinians do the same, or worse (much more often worse>>

How could they do worse? First of all, the israeli authorities are armed with the latest weapons, helicopters, and jets. The number of dead palestinians is higher than those of the israelies. If anything the israelies are doing more.

 

[etech]

First of all, the israeli authorities are armed with the latest weapons, helicopters, and jets.

Good point, the Israelis if they wanted could wipe the Palestinians off the map. Do you think if the situation was reversed that Israel would not be wiped out?

 

[Grommet5]

Passner,
<<Grommie Boy, there is a big difference between "not supporting Israel" and some of the things you have said in this thread>>

That comment was made in response to the racist comment made my ThePresence and i quote:
"Question: How long does it take a Palestinian woman to make a bomb?
Answer: nine months"

 

[ThePresence]

OK, Grommet5, you bought into all the palestinian propoganda. Want a little prespective? do u even care to hear the other side? Text

 

[Grommet5]

etech,

<<the Israelis if they wanted could wipe the Palestinians off the map>>

No, they wouldn't because that would make them look like a nazi-esque regime. They would rather wipe the palestinians out slowly under a disguise of retaliation killings.

 

[BoltCase]

<< burnedout, any evidence for that?

Have any evidence to the contrary? >>



Wow, how stupid can you get? Can't you see the fallacy of your reply? This is way too stupid for me to even bother to reply to.


Don't forget that a UN vheicle was shot and a UN nurse killed. Are those terrorist too?

Where were they from?

How does that matter? Shooting an ambulance with UN, Red Cressent/Cross on it is a violation of international law (and human law too which is being ignored a little bit too much). JUST because you suspect that they might carry terrorists and kill 3 innocents civilians is a war crime.



<< Just because the IDF wear cute suits and use OUR FREE F-16s to kills civilains doesn't make those terrorists right.

Just because some nutcase screaming intifada, blows himself and others to smithereens using <IRANIAN, IRAQI, INSERT HOSTILE ANTI-ISRAELI COUNTRY NAME HERE> in a cafe or kills school kids doesn't make IDF wrong. >>



Those school kids are Israeli terrorists!!! Israelis are killing purposuly civilians but they claim not to .. oh just 1000 civilains got killed by accidents .. include a 100 or so kid... accident.. yeah. a suicide bomber also kill Israelis by accident I'm sure about that. It's not his fault that Israelis happen to be around when he detonate himself/herself, it's an accident.

Even though Israelis have all the latest weaponary (Free from us I might add), the Palestinians were able to seed fear ALL over Israel. There attacks on Palestinian lands led to NOTHING, just more Israelis and Palestinians getting killed and more bombing in Israel.

 

[BoltCase]

<<
Good point, the Israelis if they wanted could wipe the Palestinians off the map. Do you think if the situation was reversed that Israel would not be wiped out?
>>



oh believe me, the Israelis WANT to wipe Palestinians off the map, they simply cannot. This will lead to WWIII. It's the same reason they cannot touch The Dome of the Rock, the jews want to rebuild their religious thingie there but they can only dream about it.. maybe make a computer model of it, that's all

 

[Czar]

ThePresence,
its obvios you have just read the title of this thread and judged me from that, read my most recent posts here.

 

[ThePresence]

<< Those school kids are Israeli terrorists!!! Israelis are killing purposuly civilians but they claim not to .. oh just 1000 civilains got killed by accidents .. include a 100 or so kid... accident.. yeah. a suicide bomber also kill Israelis by accident I'm sure about that. It's not his fault that Israelis happen to be around when he detonate himself/herself, it's an accident. >>



Ummmmm....why would Israel want to kill innocent palestinians? Is there a point to it? Do they further their goals by killing innocent civillians? Does it make them look good in the eyes of the world? Or is it their hatred of the Palestinians? Dude, get a grip. Killing civillians is the one thing the IDF tries to avoid at all costs. It's stressed time and time again in IDF training courses. But what the hell, im not gonna change your opinion by giving you the facts.

 

[Czar]

No one has ever brought forward proof that the Ambulances are used to carry terrorists or weapons.

 

[ThePresence]

<< ThePresence,
its obvios you have just read the title of this thread and judged me from that, read my most recent posts here. >>



Oh, so at the the time when you posted this thread, you were anti-Israel, now you are rehabilitated. Good to hear, but hard to believe.

 

[Czar]

Passner


<< What has been lost in this whole thread is that the Palestinians did almost the same exact thing. Shooting a guy and then not allowing an ambulence to come, forcing the man to bleed to death after 5 hours. >>


didnt know about that, any links?