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dirtboy

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
That's right, because their business is none of my business and shouldn't be any of yours either, not in this Country. :|

But the management of Exxonmobil is your business?

Yes, because they are raping me.

You have a choice. You don't have to buy Exxonmobil gas. You could take public transportation or physical transportation. You delibrately choose to make yourself a slave of the oil companies. I think you like it. Change your lifestyle to your beliefs and maybe people will actually listen.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
That's right, because their business is none of my business and shouldn't be any of yours either, not in this Country. :|

But the management of Exxonmobil is your business?

Yes, because they are raping me.

You have a choice.

You don't have to buy Exxonmobil gas.

You could take public transportation or physical transportation.

You delibrately choose to make yourself a slave of the oil companies.

I think you like it.

Change your lifestyle to your beliefs and maybe people will actually listen.

Wrong again dirt.

Show me where there is public transportation in New Orleans.

The best it had, before even the Hurricane took them out, was some street cars within a few blocks of the City and I don't work in the city itself.

You're getting really old with the dis-information garbage spewage.
 

dirtboy

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
You are right again dirtboy.

I like to make excuses for not living up to my own ideals. Here's one: Show me where there is public transportation in New Orleans.

Here's another excuse: The best it had, before even the Hurricane took them out, was some street cars within a few blocks of the City and I don't work in the city itself.

You're spot on exposing me for what I really am -- a hypocrite.

I am right again. Move closer to your job. New Orleans didn't force you to live where you do now, nor do they force you to work where you do now. Nobody for that matter is forcing you to live in New Orleans.

You could change both, but you choose not to. As I continue to point out, if you really believed what you say, you'd change accordingly. You don't believe you should be subject to your own rules. You think everyone else in this country should. Hence, you are a hypocrite.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: zendari


But the management of Exxonmobil is your business?

Yes, because they are raping me.

Awwwwwww poor baby, crying because a company isn't giving you handouts and asking fair market price for their products. What a concept.

Try shopping elsewhere.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: zendari
But the management of Exxonmobil is your business?

Yes, because they are raping me.

Awwwwwww poor baby, crying because a company isn't giving you handouts and asking fair market price for their products. What a concept.

Try shopping elsewhere.

Interesting, yet inane retort.

How is the price of the proven to be false prices of both Oil and Gas fair market price???

Where else can you find the product cheaper?

All the stations are within pennies of each other.

That's price rape not fair market.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
You are right again dirtboy.

I like to make excuses for not living up to my own ideals. Here's one: Show me where there is public transportation in New Orleans.

Here's another excuse: The best it had, before even the Hurricane took them out, was some street cars within a few blocks of the City and I don't work in the city itself.

You're spot on exposing me for what I really am -- a hypocrite.

I am right again.

Move closer to your job.

New Orleans didn't force you to live where you do now, nor do they force you to work where you do now. Nobody for that matter is forcing you to live in New Orleans.

You could change both, but you choose not to. As I continue to point out, if you really believed what you say, you'd change accordingly. You don't believe you should be subject to your own rules. You think everyone else in this country should. Hence, you are a hypocrite.

No you're so wrong again the entire city of New Orleans should slapping you upside the head.

Do you look at the news?

Do you see what happened to those that lived closer to the city?

It went UNDER water.

I'm an Engineer and when I moved here folks that know me here and including vacationed members will tell you when I saw from the 18th floor of the Marina Towers buildings at 17th street looking at the roof tops the same height as the water in the canal I said you couldn't pay me to live there.

I was right. Apparently you would've chosen to live on that side closer to the job.

Your crappy remarks are not just out of line to me but to the entire population of New Orleans.

You live up to your avatar name well and I am done with you.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Interesting, yet inane retort.

How is the price of the proven to be false prices of both Oil and Gas fair market price???

Where else can you find the product cheaper?

All the stations are within pennies of each other.

That's price rape not fair market.

What's been proven to be false? Your nonsensenical disregard of any numbers you don't like?
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Interesting, yet inane retort.

How is the price of the proven to be false prices of both Oil and Gas fair market price???

Where else can you find the product cheaper?

All the stations are within pennies of each other.

That's price rape not fair market.

What's been proven to be false? Your nonsensenical disregard of any numbers you don't like?

Not surprised you haven't been paying attention and/or can't read.

The Oil Barons continue to say that there is no Oil shortage and hasn't been any and that they could not understand why the price was so high.

Are you disagreeing with your Gods???
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: zendari

What's been proven to be false? Your nonsensenical disregard of any numbers you don't like?

Not surprised you haven't been paying attention and/or can't read.

The Oil Barons continue to say that there is no Oil shortage and hasn't been any and that they could not understand why the price was so high.

Are you disagreeing with your Gods???

The price is high because people like you own gas guzzlers and pay it.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: zendari

What's been proven to be false? Your nonsensenical disregard of any numbers you don't like?

Not surprised you haven't been paying attention and/or can't read.

The Oil Barons continue to say that there is no Oil shortage and hasn't been any and that they could not understand why the price was so high.

Are you disagreeing with your Gods???

The price is high because people like you own gas guzzlers and pay it.

I own a gas guzzler??? That's news to me.

Where do you and dirt get your false disinformation???
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: zendari

What's been proven to be false? Your nonsensenical disregard of any numbers you don't like?

Not surprised you haven't been paying attention and/or can't read.

The Oil Barons continue to say that there is no Oil shortage and hasn't been any and that they could not understand why the price was so high.

Are you disagreeing with your Gods???

The price is high because people like you own gas guzzlers and pay it.

I own a gas guzzler??? That's news to me.

Where do you and dirt get your false disinformation???



Given the distance you claim to commute each day and the minivan that only gets low 20mpg, i think it is fair to classify it as a gas guzzler. It would not be difficult for you get something that gets 35mpg or better.
 

dirtboy

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: zendari

What's been proven to be false? Your nonsensenical disregard of any numbers you don't like?

Not surprised you haven't been paying attention and/or can't read.

The Oil Barons continue to say that there is no Oil shortage and hasn't been any and that they could not understand why the price was so high.

Are you disagreeing with your Gods???

The price is high because people like you own gas guzzlers and pay it.

I own a gas guzzler??? That's news to me.

Where do you and dirt get your false disinformation???

We read your posts, like everyone else here that acknowledges your hypocracy. More excuses from the party who is full of excuses for why they can't do this or that, mainly, win elections. Probably because their party is accusing others of driving gas guzzlers when they admit to owning a guzzler and admit to living a long way from their job.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: zendari

What's been proven to be false? Your nonsensenical disregard of any numbers you don't like?

Not surprised you haven't been paying attention and/or can't read.

The Oil Barons continue to say that there is no Oil shortage and hasn't been any and that they could not understand why the price was so high.

Are you disagreeing with your Gods???

The price is high because people like you own gas guzzlers and pay it.

I own a gas guzzler??? That's news to me.

Where do you and dirt get your false disinformation???

Given the distance you claim to commute each day and the minivan that only gets low 20mpg, i think it is fair to classify it as a gas guzzler. It would not be difficult for you get something that gets 35mpg or better.

This is rich. Let me get this straight.

Now the gas guzzling republicans that drive sub 10 mpg SUV's are calling vehicles that get 20+ mpg gas guzzlers??? :confused:

I don't have the money to start on payments for a new vehicle.

If I did I would absolutely get a hybrid.
 

dirtboy

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
This is rich. Let me get this straight.

Now the gas guzzling republicans that drive sub 10 mpg SUV's are calling vehicles that get 20+ mpg gas guzzlers??? :confused:

So you're saying if your car gets 20+ mpg that you're not supporting the Oil Thugs?

That's RICH.

Is that a standard you set because your van gets 20mpg? Why shouldn't the standard be 100mpg???
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
This is rich. Let me get this straight.

Now the gas guzzling republicans that drive sub 10 mpg SUV's are calling vehicles that get 20+ mpg gas guzzlers??? :confused:

So you're saying if your car gets 20+ mpg that you're not supporting the Oil Thugs?

That's RICH.

Is that a standard you set because your van gets 20mpg? Why shouldn't the standard be 100mpg???

Show me the 100 mpg standard. Hybrids don't even get that. They run around 35 to 50.

My 20+ is a hell of a lot better than the giant SUV's getting 10mpg and less.

 

dirtboy

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
This is rich. Let me get this straight.

Now the gas guzzling republicans that drive sub 10 mpg SUV's are calling vehicles that get 20+ mpg gas guzzlers??? :confused:

So you're saying if your car gets 20+ mpg that you're not supporting the Oil Thugs?

That's RICH.

Is that a standard you set because your van gets 20mpg? Why shouldn't the standard be 100mpg???

Show me the 100 mpg standard. Hybrids don't even get that. They run around 35 to 50.

My 20+ is a hell of a lot better than the giant SUV's getting 10mpg and less.

You said you'd take the country to steam power; I asked why you're setting the bar so low for mpg. My only guess was that you'd set the bar low to criticize anyone who gets worse mileage than you.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: zendari

What's been proven to be false? Your nonsensenical disregard of any numbers you don't like?

Not surprised you haven't been paying attention and/or can't read.

The Oil Barons continue to say that there is no Oil shortage and hasn't been any and that they could not understand why the price was so high.

Are you disagreeing with your Gods???

The price is high because people like you own gas guzzlers and pay it.

I own a gas guzzler??? That's news to me.

Where do you and dirt get your false disinformation???

Given the distance you claim to commute each day and the minivan that only gets low 20mpg, i think it is fair to classify it as a gas guzzler. It would not be difficult for you get something that gets 35mpg or better.

This is rich. Let me get this straight.

Now the gas guzzling republicans that drive sub 10 mpg SUV's are calling vehicles that get 20+ mpg gas guzzlers??? :confused:

I don't have the money to start on payments for a new vehicle.

If I did I would absolutely get a hybrid.



Ever consider a good used vehicle. Your gas costs from what you claim would easily pay for a more effecient vehicle. But I think you would rather blame someone else for your problems.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Show me the 100 mpg standard. Hybrids don't even get that. They run around 35 to 50.

My 20+ is a hell of a lot better than the giant SUV's getting 10mpg and less.
That's like saying the Texans are better than the Browns.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: zendari

What's been proven to be false? Your nonsensenical disregard of any numbers you don't like?

Not surprised you haven't been paying attention and/or can't read.

The Oil Barons continue to say that there is no Oil shortage and hasn't been any and that they could not understand why the price was so high.

Are you disagreeing with your Gods???

The price is high because people like you own gas guzzlers and pay it.

I own a gas guzzler??? That's news to me.

Where do you and dirt get your false disinformation???

Given the distance you claim to commute each day and the minivan that only gets low 20mpg, i think it is fair to classify it as a gas guzzler. It would not be difficult for you get something that gets 35mpg or better.

This is rich. Let me get this straight.

Now the gas guzzling republicans that drive sub 10 mpg SUV's are calling vehicles that get 20+ mpg gas guzzlers??? :confused:

I don't have the money to start on payments for a new vehicle.

If I did I would absolutely get a hybrid.

Ever consider a good used vehicle. Your gas costs from what you claim would easily pay for a more effecient vehicle. But I think you would rather blame someone else for your problems.

No, not worth the risks of costly repairs for a used vehicle with unknown problems.

Best bet would be a motorcycle. I am looking for another Shadow like I used to have. Funny thing is I found my old bike as a guy had it for sale but it is already gone again.
 

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I bought a hydrid Honda Insight back in May of this year, it was used with about 65000 miles on the clock, it cost about $9500.
Since then its value has gone up about $2000 due to high gas prices, we've done 10,000 miles in it.
We get about 55mpg on average, 60mpg on the highway. Our old car (an Acura) used to get about 28mpg.
So to calculate the difference 55-28=27mpg better fuel economy, fuel savings so far have equated to about 175 gallons, which at an average price of $2.50 a gallon is $437. Which isn't bad.
 

dirtboy

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Gas Prices Take Welcome Fall
A sharp downturn in pump prices might last the winter.
by Joseph Szczesny (2005-10-31)

Gasoline prices are falling across the nation thanks to lower demand, as motorists cut back on their driving and an increase in imports of refined products puts more gasoline on the markets.

Observers are predicting that prices should decline further between now and Thanksgiving.


The average price of self-serve regular gasoline in the Los Angeles-Long Beach area is $2.829, which is 7.2 cents lower than last week, ten cents lower than last month and 39 cents higher than last year, according to the Automobile Club of Southern California's Weekend Gas Watch.

"Southern Californians have reduced their driving significantly in the past couple of months. Additionally across the nation, demand for gas is down two percent from this time last year," Auto Club spokeswoman Carol Thorp said. "Temporarily relaxed emissions standards have encouraged foreign imports of gasoline. Imports have more than made up for supply problems caused by Hurricanes Katrina and Rita," she added.

Pump prices dropped for the third consecutive week across Texas, according to AAA Texas' Weekend Gas Watch, which reported that prices dropped as much as 16 cents in only a week to an average of $2.53 for regular self-serve. "Despite these significant decreases in gasoline prices, motorists still pay an average of 55 cents a gallon more today than they did only a year ago," said Rose Rougeau, spokesperson for AAA Texas. "These are the highest gas prices ever recorded for this time of year," she added.

The national average for regular self-serve gasoline is $2.571 a gallon - 14 cents less than last week's average. Prices in the Southeast - states most affected by Katrina and Rita - have dropped to as low as $2.39 in Georgia and Alabama.

So far at least, the relatively high price of gasoline has had negligible impact on economic growth. The U.S Commerce Department estimated that the economy grew by 3.8 percent rate during the third quarter - partly because of strong sales of new motor vehicles.

The rising price of gasoline, however, is adding to the inflationary pressures that have been building in the economy in response to the rising prices of oil and transportation fuels. Transportation costs have been rising and the costs of resins used for the plastics and other materials critical to manufacturers also have been increasing rapidly. More data on inflation is due out this week in the form of new government data on personal consumption expenditures and a report from the Institute for Supply Management, which is due on Tuesday.

Meanwhile, oil companies reported record profits last week with Exxon/Mobil reporting $9.9 billion in earnings - the largest quarterly profit in U.S. history. The profits have prompted calls for a windfall profits tax among Congressional Democrats. Even Congressional Republicans have warned that oil companies are facing a backlash.

The threat of inflation triggered by the increase in oil prices, however, makes it a foregone conclusion that the Federal Reserve board will again raise interest rates when it meets this week. As part of its continuing effort to keep inflation at bay, the board is expected to raise the Fed funds rate to four percent. The rate was just one percent in mid-2004.

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Looks like the fear mongering of the left is just that; them chasing their own tails. Looks like we are importing gasoline and adding to the trade deficit. Looks like the left's desperation to get cheap gas is adding to the thing they say makes our country bad.

As I stated weeks ago, prices would fall due to reduced consumption. Looks like I was right, again.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
No, not worth the risks of costly repairs for a used vehicle with unknown problems.

Best bet would be a motorcycle. I am looking for another Shadow like I used to have. Funny thing is I found my old bike as a guy had it for sale but it is already gone again.

If you want to set a 20 mpg limit as President, don't you think you should be an example for the public with a 50 mpg car instead of skating by on the minimum?

Maybe you should cancel your ISP so you can buy a new car.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: dirtboy
Gas Prices Take Welcome Fall
A sharp downturn in pump prices might last the winter.
by Joseph Szczesny (2005-10-31)

Gasoline prices are falling across the nation thanks to lower demand, as motorists cut back on their driving and an increase in imports of refined products puts more gasoline on the markets.

Observers are predicting that prices should decline further between now and Thanksgiving.


The rising price of gasoline, however, is adding to the inflationary pressures that have been building in the economy in response to the rising prices of oil and transportation fuels. Transportation costs have been rising and the costs of resins used for the plastics and other materials critical to manufacturers also have been increasing rapidly.

Meanwhile, oil companies reported record profits last week with Exxon/Mobil reporting $9.9 billion in earnings - the largest quarterly profit in U.S. history. The profits have prompted calls for a windfall profits tax among Congressional Democrats. Even Congressional Republicans have warned that oil companies are facing a backlash.

The threat of inflation triggered by the increase in oil prices, however, makes it a foregone conclusion that the Federal Reserve board will again raise interest rates when it meets this week.

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Looks like the fear mongering of the left is just that; them chasing their own tails. Looks like we are importing gasoline and adding to the trade deficit. Looks like the left's desperation to get cheap gas is adding to the thing they say makes our country bad.

As I stated weeks ago, prices would fall due to reduced consumption. Looks like I was right, again.

You think all this is OK??? :confused:

You Republicans talk out of both sides of your mouth.

On one hand you say it's not going to happen that higher prices won't affect anything, then on the other hand when you see the lower classes can't handle the higher prices you say "Oh consumption is down".

No sh!t sherlock.

You can't have it both ways.
 

dirtboy

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
You think all this is OK??? :confused:

You Republicans talk out of both sides of your mouth.

On one hand you say it's not going to happen that higher prices won't affect anything, then on the other hand when you see the lower classes can't handle the higher prices you say "Oh consumption is down".

No sh!t sherlock.

You can't have it both ways.

You think this is BAD??? :confused:

You liberals babble about things you have no clue about.

One one hand you said high prices are bad, then when they fall you deny the facts. When they do fall, you complain that prices should be high!

You have yet to produce anything that showed high gas prices have hurt the economy. It hasn't changed your driving habits or forced you to get a more fuel efficient vehicle, so why would it affect anyone else???

I figured you would spin good news, because that's the job of every liberal. Make things look as bad as possible so you can win elections. Oh wait... you can't win. :laugh:
 

dmcowen674

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11-7-2005 Once Americans begin to turn up their thermostats, there will again be upward pressure on energy prices.

Oil and natural gas production in the Gulf of Mexico is recovering, it is still well below pre-hurricane levels. The U.S. Minerals Management Service said Friday that 52 percent of daily oil production and 46 percent of natural gas production in the Gulf of Mexico remained off-line.

There are also three refineries that remain out of commission, draining the U.S. manufacturing capacity for gasoline, diesel and heating oil. Imports from Europe have helped offset that shortfall.