Ohio Early Voting Will No Longer Take Place On Sundays, Weekday Evenings

[Moonbeam]

Ah...I get it...that's the "real" reason this bipartisan group wanted to cut the in-person early voting period from 35 to 29 days. They're all just racists masquerading as a "bipartisan" group in order to bullshit us by saying they need uniform voting hours within the State to avoid legal challenges if some counties set longer voting periods than others...which courts would likely deem to be unfair under equal protection grounds. Those sneaky bastards!

There are 22 States in the U.S. that don't allow any in-person early voting...are these States all run by racist "bipartisans" as well? Also, of the 28 States that do allow in-person voting, very few allow more than 15 days. The 29 days being proposed for Ohio doesn't seem highly unreasonable to me. But hey...if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/absentee-and-early-voting.aspx

http://www.longdistancevoter.org/early_voting_rules

How does a known racist get on a bipartisan commission.? Was the intention to have racism but just not too much of it? Maybe just racism against partly black people? How could you meet with a racist to do a deal? I regard republican attempts to suppress the minority vote to be just that and I also consider such folk to be traitors. I would revoke their citizenship. I'm a Nazi about the right to vote. I have a conservative brain defect that feels immense disgust at this sort of shit. Oh well, I'll just have to rationalize away the issue.

 

[Matt1970]

How does a known racist get on a bipartisan commission.? Was the intention to have racism but just not too much of it? Maybe just racism against partly black people? How could you meet with a racist to do a deal? I regard republican attempts to suppress the minority vote to be just that and I also consider such folk to be traitors. I would revoke their citizenship. I'm a Nazi about the right to vote. I have a conservative brain defect that feels immense disgust at this sort of shit. Oh well, I'll just have to rationalize away the issue.

Same way one gets elected President Pro Tempore.

 

[emperus]

That does not answer my question. You lied about what I said and exhibit a total lack of integrity by not admitting it. I'm not going to play your games.

Where did I say you said you wanted to deny people their right to vote in my quote below? If you want to feign anger at least feign it for the right thing.

I always wondered why they could get away with this nonsense. Well reading Boomerang, MAtt and Doc's posts it all makes sense.

These people are the same ones who wrap themselves in the flag, and profess their patriotism and love for country all while trying to willfully deny people their right to vote.

How do you guys defend that and call yourselves Americans?

My quote was in response to my first post at how the GOP explains it to their base. And reading ur post, I understood; you don't care. Because it's not about what's right or what's wrong for you. What's right is what ur side does.

I then went on to say that these people (the Republican Party) are the ones who wrap themselves in the flag yet try to deny people the right to vote. They conveniently forget what our forefathers strove, fought and died for. It's Un-American.

So, I'm not playing your word soup game. This has been a systematic effort, including Voter ID, to prevent certain groups from voting. Who sits down and says we can win elections if we make it harder for this group to vote. You seem to think this new law which is part in parcel of that strategy is all hunky dory. All your posts have been in defense of it. So, I actually judge people through their actions.

It's Un-American.

 

[Fern]

So basically..

Early voting only during normal business hours for the average working stiff...

put another way...

You can only early vote during the time when you're most likely obligated to be somewhere else... like your JOB!

Tell me again how this benefits Republicans?

Only?

Tell me again how Democrats have no reading comprehension problems...

From the article:

The AP reports voters will only get two Saturdays to cast early, in-person ballots during the statewide election this fall.

That seems to be plenty. This is a big fuss about nothing.

Plus I get a chuckle about people not being able to vote because of work, as if many even have jobs.

Fern

 

[Fern]

Help me understand two things.

1.) If you had 6 hour waits during the last election, one would think you would increase not cut the voting hours right? So why would u cut them?
-snip-

First, you help me understand how a state can have 29 days of voting PLUS absentee ballots mailed to EVERYONE (a crazy idea IMO, but whatever) and still have a 6 hour wait.

It's almost like no one ever took advantage of those early voting days.

Fern

 

[dmcowen674]

Ohio Early Voting Will No Longer Take Place On Sundays, Weekday Evenings

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/25/ohio-early-voting_n_4855834.html

Is there a legitimate counter-argument to this or does it just seem that the Republicans are trying the rig the rules?

Ordinary GOP procedure, Americans love it, nothing to see here, move along.

 

[Jhhnn]

I live in a blue state that does not allow early voting. A blue state, can you believe that shit?!

Yeh, that's why Michigan has a Repub Legislature & Governor, I suppose. Blue as Blue can be.

Clearly, facts have no bearing on the formulation of your opinions.

 

[boomerang]

Yeh, that's why Michigan has a Repub Legislature & Governor, I suppose. Blue as Blue can be.

Clearly, facts have no bearing on the formulation of your opinions.

Jhhnn, you ignorant slut. That weed, that ganj, it's makin' you dumb bruddah.

 

[Jhhnn]

Plus I get a chuckle about people not being able to vote because of work, as if many even have jobs.

That's nice innuendo & slander, for sure, excellent smearing the victim routine all the way around.

Probably all Obama's fault, somehow, I'm sure.

 

[Jhhnn]

I honestly don't see it as a problem, given that all registered voters will receive absentee ballots. That last part completely outweighs any loss of days of the polls being open.

I don't pretend to understand Ohio's rules about late registration, walk in voting or any of that where some issues might exist.

Oregon votes entirely by mail with very high participation rates & negligible fraud, last time I checked.

I want everybody who is eligible to vote to do so. Making it easy works in that direction, and it's hard to see mail in ballots as anything but easy.

 

[emperus]

Only?

Tell me again how Democrats have no reading comprehension problems...

From the article:



That seems to be plenty. This is a big fuss about nothing.

Plus I get a chuckle about people not being able to vote because of work, as if many even have jobs.

Fern

If it were ever in doubt Fern... Your such a stand up guy. Btw, who are these many?

 

[emperus]

First, you help me understand how a state can have 29 days of voting PLUS absentee ballots mailed to EVERYONE (a crazy idea IMO, but whatever) and still have a 6 hour wait.

It's almost like no one ever took advantage of those early voting days.

Fern

Yes, because we should design systems for how we want people to use them not how people really do use them.

 

[TerryMathews]

Yes, because we should design systems for how we want people to use them not how people really do use them.

Right. Because the government always accommodates the way people want to live their lives...

Obamacare?

 

[Fern]

Yes, because we should design systems for how we want people to use them not how people really do use them.

You got an answer to the question?

I'd like to know how in previous yrs with 31 days of early voting, including evenings and Sundays, people had to stand in line for 6 hrs as you claim.

Either:

1. Your claim is untrue, or

2. People weren't using early voting, or

3. ?

Fern

 

[Jhhnn]

Right. Because the government always accommodates the way people want to live their lives...

Obamacare?

Nice dodge!

As if Obamacare has anything to do w/ the subject at hand.

 

[TerryMathews]

Nice dodge!

As if Obamacare has anything to do w/ the subject at hand.

Its the antithesis of "we should design systems for how we want people to use them not how people really do use them." Which makes it very relevant to Eskimo's point.

Sorry if you were having a hard time following the conversation?

 

[cubby1223]

Another thread about how the white people are oppressing blacks.

What's tomorrow's topic?

 

[HomerJS]

You got an answer to the question?

I'd like to know how in previous yrs with 31 days of early voting, including evenings and Sundays, people had to stand in line for 6 hrs as you claim.

Either:

1. Your claim is untrue, or

2. People weren't using early voting, or

3. ?

Fern

Ohio adopted 35 days of early voting after 2004 when people waited for up to 7 hours. The results were so good in 2008 what did they do? Start cutting it back.

In 2004, Ohio had the longest lines in the country on Election Day, with some voters—particularly in large urban areas—waiting as long as seven hours to vote. A DNC survey estimated that 174,000 Ohioans—3 percent of the state’s electorate—left without voting. George W. Bush won the state by just 118,000 votes.

In response to the long lines, Ohio adopted thirty-five days of early voting in 2008, including on nights and weekends, to make voting more convenient. But following the large Democratic turnout in 2008, Ohio Republicans drastically curtailed early voting in 2012 from thirty-five to eleven days, with no voting on the Sunday before the election, when African-American churches historically rally their congregants to go to the polls.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/177454/ohio-gop-resurrects-voter-suppression-efforts#

 

[boomerang]

Another thread about how the white people are oppressing blacks.

What's tomorrow's topic?

Kill whitey?

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

How does a known racist get on a bipartisan commission.? Was the intention to have racism but just not too much of it? Maybe just racism against partly black people? How could you meet with a racist to do a deal? I regard republican attempts to suppress the minority vote to be just that and I also consider such folk to be traitors. I would revoke their citizenship. I'm a Nazi about the right to vote. I have a conservative brain defect that feels immense disgust at this sort of shit. Oh well, I'll just have to rationalize away the issue.

Do you also consider those who actively engage in suppressing the overseas military vote to be traitors as well?

 

[emperus]

Do you also consider those who actively engage in suppressing the overseas military vote to be traitors as well?

You and this propaganda. You care so much about our troops but not about the right of representation so many fought for? Keep wrapping urself in the flag.

And btw, you should really stop repeating right wing propaganda. The issue is that Republicans wanted absentee ballots counted from Military personal that were received after the election, some 10 days after the election, with no postmark and from military personal who never asked for an absentee ballot who weren't even registered to vote. Sounds like fraud to me, no? And if you care so much about the troops, why are thye even voting this way? If they are serving our country overseas, shouldn't there be some better method for them to vote?

Judge Smith sounded skeptical about the idea. ''So you can have an undated ballot received by the supervisor of elections after the election has already taken place, and that should be counted?'' he asked.

Mr. Bartlit also argued that write-in absentee ballots should be accepted, even when the county has no record of a request for an absentee ballot.

And he argued that absentee ballots from unregistered voters in the military should be counted, citing a federal law that recommends that states waive registration for military voters but does not require such a waiver.

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/11/25/u...s-for-bush-want-judge-reinstate-military.html

And from a right wing rag you might more associate with.

According to unofficial tallies, 1,547 overseas absentee ballots — about 40 percent of the total Florida received — were thrown out by county elections workers, mostly because they lacked either a date or a signature, or in some cases because they were not filed by registered voters.

According to the order, Collier said the ballots should not have been discarded simply because they had no postmark. Furthermore, he ruled that federal write-in ballots must be accepted, even if there was no formal request for a write-in ballot.


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2000/12/2256/#759poRMWCaEbCqkc.99

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

You and this propaganda. You care so much about our troops but not about the right of representation so many fought for? Keep wrapping urself in the flag.

And btw, you should really stop repeating right wing propaganda. The issue is that Republicans wanted absentee ballots from Military personal that were received after the election, with no postmark and from military personal who never asked for an absentee ballot who weren't even registered to vote. Sounds like fraud to me no? And if you care so much about the troops, why are thye even voting this way? If they are serving our country overseas, shouldn't there be some better method for them to vote?



http://www.nytimes.com/2000/11/25/u...s-for-bush-want-judge-reinstate-military.html

And from a right wing rag you might more associate with.

Tell me something...do you think it would be acceptable for Republican poll watchers to be provided with detailed instructions on all the numerous ways possible to actively suppress the urban vote (and other Democratic stronghold areas) and not apply this "oversight" in Republican dominated regions of the State? Would you be OK with this?

 

[fskimospy]

Tell me something...do you think it would be acceptable for Republican poll watchers to be provided with detailed instructions on all the numerous ways possible to actively suppress the urban vote (and other Democratic stronghold areas) and not apply this "oversight" in Republican dominated regions of the State? Would you be OK with this?

You know this is already common practice in battleground states, right? (for both sides)

 

[emperus]

Tell me something...do you think it would be acceptable for Republican poll watchers to be provided with detailed instructions on all the numerous ways possible to actively suppress the urban vote (and other Democratic stronghold areas) and not apply this "oversight" in Republican dominated regions of the State? Would you be OK with this?

Funny how quickly you moved on from the suppressing the military vote talking point. So, you're not even going to respond to those articles? Or admt you really wasn't aware of what you were talking about? I guess you really don't know how much propaganda you've been fed.

But this thread was about an attempt to change the voting times in an apparent attempt at voter suppression. What does your new talking point have to do with that?

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Funny how quickly you moved on from the suppressing the military vote talking point. So, you're not even going to respond to those articles? Or admt you really wasn't aware of what you were talking about? I guess you really don't know how much propaganda you've been fed.

But this thread was about an attempt to change the voting times in an apparent attempt at voter suppression. What does your new talking point have to do with that?

I'm fully aware of the thread topic. Please answer the question.