Ohio Early Voting Will No Longer Take Place On Sundays, Weekday Evenings

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fskimospy

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Here goes the actual reforms that were recommended.
http://www.oaeo.us/report-and-recommendations-for-absentee-voting-reform/

It reads like someone wanted to close the polls on Sundays and so they compromised to close it at 4pm on Sundays for Presidential elections and not open it all on Sundays during non-presidential elections. I'm still at a loss why the would close at all the Sunday or even the day before the election seeing elections fall on Tue I believe. How much more of a cost can that be? Isn't voting the fundamental exercise of our freedom?

The reason is that a lot of black voter mobilization comes from churches and the plan used to be that everyone would go to church and then go vote. This acts primarily to suppress black votes. (no joke, that's really why)
 

boomerang

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Why don't we both allow both the extended mailing of the votes and the extended opening of the polls. Isn't the goal to get the highest participation rate possible?

It's both. I think mailing of votes would present more problems counting them then actual in person tabulation. I think that is where the majority of fraud can happen.

What further bothers me is that for the last few years, we hear a lot about voter id laws. How do absentee ballots make the system more safer than in poll voting?
I totally agree with you that absentee voting is much more prone to fraud.

I can't answer the rest of your questions. You should direct them to officials in Ohio as they are the ones that made these decisions. I believe it was touched on earlier that elections are extremely costly. More days/evenings with the polls open costs more. Wishing that wasn't so doesn't change it.
 

Thebobo

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Here goes the actual reforms that were recommended.
http://www.oaeo.us/report-and-recommendations-for-absentee-voting-reform/

It reads like someone wanted to close the polls on Sundays and so they compromised to close it at 4pm on Sundays for Presidential elections and not open it all on Sundays during non-presidential elections. I'm still at a loss why the would close at all the Sunday or even the day before the election seeing elections fall on Tue I believe. How much more of a cost can that be? Isn't voting the fundamental exercise of our freedom?

Omg /facepalm it has Nothing to do with fraud or money its

BECAUSE THE WANT TO SUPPRESS THE VOTE FOR LORDS SAKE!

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Fern

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The reason is that a lot of black voter mobilization comes from churches and the plan used to be that everyone would go to church and then go vote. This acts primarily to suppress black votes. (no joke, that's really why)

Or, maybe it suppresses church attendance and liberals should be happy to see more 'separation of church and state'.

Fern
 

emperus

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Or, maybe it suppresses church attendance and liberals should be happy to see more 'separation of church and state'.

Fern

Do you think this plan is a good idea? If so, why would you close the polls 2 days before the actual election day. Wouldn't that cause more confusion than anything?
 

davmat787

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The Sabbath shouldn't be used for voting for your favorite flavor of devil anyway. :colbert:
 

MtnMan

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The US has one of the lowest rates of voter turnout, and the politicians want to make it even tougher to vote. The contempt that politicians have for citizens is only exceeded only by my contempt for these self-serving leaches.

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boomerang

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The US has one of the lowest rates of voter turnout, and the politicians want to make it even tougher to vote. The contempt that politicians have for citizens is only exceeded only by my contempt for these self-serving leaches.
But Ohio just made it easier. Short of electronic voting through the internet, what's easier than voting by mail?

Seems like a lot of misguided drama.
 

HomerJS

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You do realize that in order to have people vote, you have to actually staff all these polling stations right? Polling stations mostly staffed by volunteers, and you also need support staff for the voting machines and all that jazz at the ready. There's a cost to doing all this stuff, and I haven't seen anyone show any particular reason why we need to spend additional time and resources on this.

You do realize in densely populated inner cities people waited in line up to 7 hours for 2004 election? They were forced to extend after that, now they are cutting back.

But I guess its ok to make black people wait.
 

boomerang

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You do realize in densely populated inner cities people waited in line up to 7 hours for 2004 election? They were forced to extend after that, now they are cutting back.

But I guess its ok to make black people wait.
For the price of a stamp, people of all races, creeds, colors and sexual orientations will not have to wait even one second.

You may now continue your misguided rage.
 

HomerJS

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For the price of a stamp, people of all races, creeds, colors and sexual orientations will not have to wait even one second.

You may now continue your misguided rage.

And how do we know who is filling out those ballots? Thought you were so concerned by so called fraud?

Meanwhile lets target the avenue disproportionately used by one group when we don't want that group to show up.
 

fskimospy

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And how do we know who is filling out those ballots? Thought you were so concerned by so called fraud?

Meanwhile lets target the avenue disproportionately used by one group when we don't want that group to show up.

It is interesting that those who claimed to be concerned about voter fraud want to increase the usage of the type of voting that is most susceptible to voter fraud.

Actually, it isn't surprising at all. They aren't against fraudulent votes, they are against democratic votes.
 
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It is interesting that those who claimed to be concerned about voter fraud want to increase the usage of the type of voting that is most susceptible to voter fraud.

Actually, it isn't surprising at all. They aren't against fraudulent votes, they are against democratic votes.
As Democrats are against Republican votes....will the circle be unbroken? Please don't forget the 2000 election and Democrat's disgusting attempts to disenfranchise the overseas military vote in Florida.
 

boomerang

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And how do we know who is filling out those ballots? Thought you were so concerned by so called fraud?
Not when Republican plants in the Post Office will be looking through the ballots. Only certain one's will get through. No fraud though, because that's a non-issue.
Meanwhile lets target the avenue disproportionately used by one group when we don't want that group to show up.
If any Democrats are to have a chance in Ohio, there better be people standing in line. A new day is dawning. Dirty politics across the board. Republicans really put one over on those Democrats with this bi-partisan change. Bunch of suckers.

What goes around, comes around. The tables are being turned.
 

Mai72

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I saw this last night on CNN. The Democrats are in the process of challenging this law as it makes its way through the courts. They have challenged it in the past with a 100% success rate. This will be overturned.

Thank god.
 

fskimospy

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As Democrats are against Republican votes....will the circle be unbroken? Please don't forget the 2000 election and Democrat's disgusting attempts to disenfranchise the overseas military vote in Florida.

I think the fact that you are reaching back fourteen years for your example is telling.

How about this. I'll count up every law or regulation I can find that republicans have created that appear intended to suppress democratic votes and you count up every democratic attempt to suppress republican votes and we see where we stand then.

You know as well as I do that the scope and scale is not even remotely comparable. False equivalence does nobody any favors.
 

Matt1970

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I saw this last night on CNN. The Democrats are in the process of challenging this law as it makes its way through the courts. They have challenged it in the past with a 100% success rate. This will be overturned.

Thank god.

Thank god. Finding a way to get your vote in during the four weeks of in person voting and having absentee ballots mailed to everyone is nearly impossible.
 
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I think the fact that you are reaching back fourteen years for your example is telling.

How about this. I'll count up every law or regulation I can find that republicans have created that appear intended to suppress democratic votes and you count up every democratic attempt to suppress republican votes and we see where we stand then.

You know as well as I do that the scope and scale is not even remotely comparable. False equivalence does nobody any favors.
You're right...it is false equivalence as what the Democrats did in 2000 was much, much more despicable.
 

Matt1970

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You're right...it is false equivalence as what the Democrats did in 2000 was much, much more despicable.

I remember the 2000 elections where Al Gore had his commercials running on TV saying to count every vote. He sure seemed like he was on our side. I also remember at the time watching his lawyers fight tooth and nail to disqualify any absentee military votes they could.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-campaign-trying-to-block-military-votes.html

Remember, "count every vote" Liberal to English translation means only count the Democrat votes.
 

emperus

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I always wondered why they could get away with this nonsense. Well reading Boomerang, MAtt and Doc's posts it all makes sense.

These people are the same ones who wrap themselves in the flag, and profess their patriotism and love for country all while trying to willfully deny people their right to vote.

How do you guys defend that and call yourselves Americans?