Official Xbox 360? Thread...Part Deux

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PricklyPete

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Originally posted by: Aikouka
Here's an article from CNN pretty much saying how DLC makes games more expensive:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/fun.games/05/24/xbox.360.price.reut/index.html

I think it tries to push that DLC becomes almost forced if the user still wants to play the game. I think that's an understandable opinion as the same occurs with people that play games with expansion packs. Imagine a person that wants to play WoW without the BC expansion. Yeah, he won't find too many people to play with when he's stuck at 60, but at least there are plenty of other maps to find other than Epic's 4 new maps.

What really needs to be looked at is if DLC wasn't available, would these extras be shipping with the game for no extra cost? If not, then this could be a good thing as those maps may either never see the light of day, be available in the sequel or available in some special "Gold Edition." For games like DDR Universe, I can see how people would be annoyed as the songs you're paying $10 for are already on the disc. You're literally paying to download a 100kb file to unlock the extra songs.

DLC has its ups and downs just like most things. I'm not complaining as I vote with my check book. If I think some DLC is a complete rip-off, I refuse to buy it. Or in the case of GoW and Epic...when MS is forcing the developer to charge...I refuse (I'll download it when it is free). On the other hand, when good DLC comes out (like GRAW and R6:V content) comes out...I readily purchase it as I love those games and this is certainly new content above and beyond what I expected for my original $60.
 

mzkhadir

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Originally posted by: PricklyPete
Originally posted by: michaels
The Dirt demo is amazing looking...blows Forza 2 away in visuals. It's 30 fps but I can't tell, I wish Forza 2 would have stuck to 30 fps if it would have meant better visuals.

I agree, the DiRT demo is FANTASTIC!!! Love the graphics, love the damage modelling, love the settings and different game types. The physics seemed pretty decent. Not Forza good...but I'd say pretty close to Rallisport Challenge...which is all I'm looking for in a Rally game.

I will definitely going to be buying this game. Very well done Codemasters!

Codemasters never made a good rally game. There are better rally games out there, but the only one that comes to the US because rally is not popular here is from codemasters.
 

PricklyPete

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Originally posted by: mzkhadir
Originally posted by: PricklyPete
Originally posted by: michaels
The Dirt demo is amazing looking...blows Forza 2 away in visuals. It's 30 fps but I can't tell, I wish Forza 2 would have stuck to 30 fps if it would have meant better visuals.

I agree, the DiRT demo is FANTASTIC!!! Love the graphics, love the damage modelling, love the settings and different game types. The physics seemed pretty decent. Not Forza good...but I'd say pretty close to Rallisport Challenge...which is all I'm looking for in a Rally game.

I will definitely going to be buying this game. Very well done Codemasters!

Codemasters never made a good rally game. There are better rally games out there, but the only one that comes to the US because rally is not popular here is from codemasters.

I don't know what your definition of a good Rally game is...but Rallisport Challenge was a lot of fun and I think this game is too. I'm not looking for a FORZA like sim...I'm just looking for some fun and I think this game delivers. I only tried one other Codemaster Rally game...and that was years ago. it wasn't much fun...so I moved on. This one was a lot of fun...I'm definitely buying it.
 

raystorm

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Originally posted by: mzkhadir
Originally posted by: PricklyPete
Originally posted by: michaels
The Dirt demo is amazing looking...blows Forza 2 away in visuals. It's 30 fps but I can't tell, I wish Forza 2 would have stuck to 30 fps if it would have meant better visuals.

I agree, the DiRT demo is FANTASTIC!!! Love the graphics, love the damage modelling, love the settings and different game types. The physics seemed pretty decent. Not Forza good...but I'd say pretty close to Rallisport Challenge...which is all I'm looking for in a Rally game.

I will definitely going to be buying this game. Very well done Codemasters!

Codemasters never made a good rally game. There are better rally games out there, but the only one that comes to the US because rally is not popular here is from codemasters.


The earlier Colin McRae games were fine and I liked Rallisport Challenge a lot. I tried to get into Richard Burns Rally on the pc but that game is WAY too sim for me. I'm lucky if I even drive in a straight line in that game.


There isn't much else when it comes to rally games except for the upcoming Sega Rally sequel but I'm not a big fan of Sega's Rally series.
 

Queasy

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Bioshock at Family Video for $52.99. There's a new member coupon floating over at the Chunky Billfold to get it down to $47.99.

 

Aikouka

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I tried the steering wheel with Forza 2 an DiRT the other night. I was EXTREMELY disappointed in the controls. The games are literally unplayable with the wheel because they're so oversensitive. It's unfortunately, because PGR3 has pretty good steering wheel controls (note, you need the version that comes with the steering wheel to use the wheel, the original PGR3 doesn't support it) and I could actually race with it. But attempting to use the wheel in DiRT literally put me about 3 minutes behind because I'd steer and accelerate and the car would just steer waaaaay too much for how little I gave it. Eventually, when playing Forza 2, I got so tired of the wheel, that I pressed start, pulled the power cord (because it refused to turn off the wheel via holding the 'Y' button and selected "turn off controller"), reconnected with a normal gamepad and wtfpwned.

This leads me to something that pissed me off in Forza 2. So I'm racing with the Fairlady Z and coming up to the finish line... about to come in first. Nope, a car comes up front behind and slams into my rear quarter panel sending me into a spin as I watch all 7 cars pass me. I was pissed, because I get a penalty when THEY hit me... and because I lost :(.
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: Aikouka
I tried the steering wheel with Forza 2 an DiRT the other night. I was EXTREMELY disappointed in the controls. The games are literally unplayable with the wheel because they're so oversensitive. It's unfortunately, because PGR3 has pretty good steering wheel controls (note, you need the version that comes with the steering wheel to use the wheel, the original PGR3 doesn't support it) and I could actually race with it. But attempting to use the wheel in DiRT literally put me about 3 minutes behind because I'd steer and accelerate and the car would just steer waaaaay too much for how little I gave it. Eventually, when playing Forza 2, I got so tired of the wheel, that I pressed start, pulled the power cord (because it refused to turn off the wheel via holding the 'Y' button and selected "turn off controller"), reconnected with a normal gamepad and wtfpwned.

This leads me to something that pissed me off in Forza 2. So I'm racing with the Fairlady Z and coming up to the finish line... about to come in first. Nope, a car comes up front behind and slams into my rear quarter panel sending me into a spin as I watch all 7 cars pass me. I was pissed, because I get a penalty when THEY hit me... and because I lost :(.

Well, they're demos. I guess we can hope that they fix the steering wheel before the final version.

edit: Just ran across this.

Over on the Forza Motorsport 2 forums members are investigating a way to change the 360 racing wheel's force feedback in the Forza 2 demo. Currently, the Forza 2 demo does not allow customizable racing wheel options, but the Colin McRae DiRT demo does allowing players to change various settings. And, as such, some forum members are reporting that the DiRT demo's force feedback settings magically transfer over to the Forza 2 demo. So, if you're feeling the need for more force feedback in Forza 2, fire up DiRT, customize your racing wheel options and see if it helps your Forza 2 demo situation. Although, all this confusion could be avoided if Microsoft would integrate some sort of racing wheel options menu through the dash. You hear us Microsoft?

 

bigrash

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finally got a chance to play the Dirt demo, and I thought the grafix were awesome! gameplay is nice too. I'm not a big fan of Forza type racing games, so I might buy Dirt when it's out
 

Aikouka

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Hmm, I may have to adjust them then. But the thing is, I didn't have to touch Gotham's controls at all... they were practically perfect when I tried. Of course it's harder than a controller, I didn't expect it not to be, but DiRT and Forza were just impossible to play without the controller.
 

Queasy

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Sample of customized cars in Forza 2 from Japan. Apparently, they already got the game back on the 24th.
 

Queasy

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5/29 - Link - More Halo 3 Beta Map changes.

Last week in the Halo 3 Beta, we ushered Big Team Training into the fold and this week we're launching a ranked version of Big Team action. Additionally, we've added a nouveau classique to the Matchmaking Playlist -- Double Team Training. In Double Team Training, players will pair off and square off in 2v2 games of the Slayer and Skirmish variety. In case you've lost track of the Playlists during the truffle shuffle of adjustments and tweaks we've been making, here's the current breakdown:

Social Matches

* Big Team Training
* Double Team Training
* Team Training

Ranked Matches

* Team Slayer
* Big Team Battle
* Rumble Pit
 

Queasy

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Pirates of the Caribbean Demo Out for North America. It was only in Europe before.

Name: Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End Demo
Price: Free
Availability: Xbox Live members in Canada, Mexico and The U.S.
Dash Details: LIVE AND DIE BY THE SWORD! Jack is back in an all new swash-buckling action adventure, Pirates of The Caribbean: At World?s End from Disney Interactive Studios. Now?s your chance to download this exclusive first level tutorial from the forthcoming game based on the smash hit movies!Pirates of the Caribbean: At World?s End is inspired by the events, environments and characters surrounding the second and third instalments of the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise. Players must demonstrate their cunning, swashbuckling creativity and swordsmanship as they encounter all manner of crazed pirates and cursed creatures in treacherous, exotic locations. Play as the eccentric Captain Jack Sparrow, Will Turner and Elizabeth Swann to prevent Jack?s dark past from catching up with him. Look out for the full game on May 22nd, in the meantime; download this first level tutorial demo to get a taste for what?s to come!
Size: 972.3 MB (approx.)
 

Cabages

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Sample of customized cars in Forza 2 from Japan. Apparently, they already got the game back on the 24th.

It come out today, right? At least in the U.S.?

Review here if anyone wants to read it.
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: Cabages
Originally posted by: Queasy
Sample of customized cars in Forza 2 from Japan. Apparently, they already got the game back on the 24th.

It come out today, right? At least in the U.S.?

Yep. Shadowrun comes out today too.
 

Queasy

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Mad Tracks is this week's XBLA game. Been waiting for this one.

3D racing party game Mad Tracks will be available for download beginning Wednesday, May 30, at 9:00 a.m. GMT (2:00 a.m. Pacific Time).

From the media alert just posted:

Players can race through 15 challenges consisting of nine mini-games and six different races behind the wheel of one of 12 sleek compact cars. ?Mad Tracks,? from Load Inc., features 12 power-ups to keep engines revved up and players in the fast lane ahead of the competition.

?Mad Tracks? will be available worldwide (with the exception of Korea) for 800 Microsoft Points and is rated E for Everyone.

Game Features
* 15 distinct challenges (6 races & 9 mini-games) provide a full-fledged racing game experience
* 12 stackable power-ups (rockets, freezer, oil drop, EMP and more!)
* 12 sleek looking cars to choose from
* 4 player multiplayer over Xbox LIVE and 4 player local multiplayer via split screen mode
* Championship mode & Arcade mode
* 2 free gamer pictures
* Earn up to 12 Achievements and 200 Gamerscore points
 

ivol07

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Has anyone played Halo 3 with more than one player on their xbox? I did for the first time last night and it cut the screen off. What I mean is it wasn't wide screen. Is this a setting I can change or is this just a demo thing?
 

purbeast0

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Originally posted by: ivol07
Has anyone played Halo 3 with more than one player on their xbox? I did for the first time last night and it cut the screen off. What I mean is it wasn't wide screen. Is this a setting I can change or is this just a demo thing?

from what i've heard it just does that by default for viewing angles.

i welcome it here. whenever I used to play halo 2 split screen on xbox, i would go into the xbox dash, put my xbox on 4:3 mode, set my tv to 4:3, then have to reload halo 2.

playing in 16:9 w/the vertical split is awful.

and i've tryed the 16:9 w/the horizontal split in gears of war and that too is awful.

usually my friends and I just stopped playing split screen period and would just take turns 1 player.
 

Cabages

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Just finished about a 45 min. session in Forza 2. So far, its great. Great graphics, and I love how the cars feel.

If anyone has questions, ask.

Hmmm. Shadowrun. I honestly havent payed any attention to this game. Does it look any good?
 

purbeast0

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Originally posted by: Cabages
Just finished about a 45 min. session in Forza 2. So far, its great. Great graphics, and I love how the cars feel.

If anyone has questions, ask.

Hmmm. Shadowrun. I honestly havent payed any attention to this game. Does it look any good?

I just wanna know if the graphics and gameplay are identical to the demo of Forza 2.
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: Cabages
Hmmm. Shadowrun. I honestly havent payed any attention to this game. Does it look any good?

Isn't that the medieval online-only FPS? It's also supposed to be out for the PC as well (with XBOX 360 and PC interoperability via Windows Live).
 

bucwylde23

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Originally posted by: Cabages
Just finished about a 45 min. session in Forza 2. So far, its great. Great graphics, and I love how the cars feel.

If anyone has questions, ask.

Hmmm. Shadowrun. I honestly havent payed any attention to this game. Does it look any good?

I'm wondering about shadowrun also. I am thinking about putting it at the top of my gamefly queu to give it a try.
 

Cabages

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Originally posted by: purbeast0
I just wanna know if the graphics and gameplay are identical to the demo of Forza 2.

I fired up the demo and the full game, and they were the same thing. The lighting seemed a little better in the full game, but that was probably because the demo's outside was kinda cloudy.